Okay.
At the start of ChatGPT craze I've read a short story "Writer looks for readers" or similar title.
Nah, it's fair. I thought about it for a few minutes. You are right. I don't care about them because I think any ridicule they get from videos on Youtube or articles written about them is deserved. I don't waste my time thinking or interacting with them. I want to have close to no interaction with any 'art' they make.
You really love making false equivalences, don't you?
For someone who keeps spouting 'ah buh this is different' merely to support a illogical position?
I suppose you extend that to false advertising in general, then? Or claiming that a food product does not contain nuts when it does, in fact, contain nuts?
No? If anything I wanna see if they would extend to those as well.
The final product doesn't contain AI, AI is just used in the manufacturing.
As the saying goes, perfect is the enemy of good. We're not talking about changing laws, we're talking about setting the policy of this forum.
We aren't really putting any effort towards growth, and we don't have advertising, so we aren't giving AI use free rein to increase engagement.
'Don't make rules you can't enforce', as the saying goes. But say we did display that policy in various places, I agree it likely would reduce the amount of untagged AI use, toothless as it would be.
I'm glad you can see the value in the suggestion, though sadden we keep circling back towards "witch hunts". I understand that it's the mentality captured by the staff at the moment, however this fearmongering over the reaction towards this unethical behavior is overblown in my opinion. Do people hold negative sentiments towards AI? Absolutely, but like I and others in this thread, we would rather not deal with it than engage with it. Ignore thread, move on.
People like you and I only have one real solution. And that's trusting reader's ability to appreciate an authentically written story more than a machine written one. Thus, the more popular a story is, the less likely it's a LLM ghostwriter.
Does most people think that undisclosed AI use is unethical? I doubt, honestly.
I wonder what examples of witch hunts over AI are there.
It may be arrogant of me to speak for others, but I do believe they do, you only need to see outside this forum to see how undisclosed AI usage is regarded in other media. Deepfakes, for example, are widely regarded as notorious by the public at large for a variety of reasons, though chief amongst them is its ability to pass off as authentic.
Thanks, and hello to you too.
I do feel that deepfakes are different matter.
Honestly, I don't know. The unethical sounds like a strong word, especially in the context free-of-charge fanfiction. Maybe for authors asking for donations? It does feel more apt in such case, imo.
Plagiarism is also regarded as unethical is it not? Even if it's on here, free of charge. There are just some things that you do not do, and having an AI undisclosed as your ghostwriter is one of them, in my opinion.
Indeed, but the underlining problem with deepfakes is their ability to trick watchers into thinking the content displayed was not made by an AI.
I know I have completely beaten this into the ground at this point but --
TFW you get AI enthusiast complaining about authentic human made work in their AI tagged stories
Or a lot of people might actively despise bring forced to disclose AI usage and just click A.I. free to stick it to the man and the haters and show how they despise the unnecessary extra steps.
He has a point.
You are assuming anyone bothers calling it out.
VPNs are a thing, so I'd disposable E-mail.
I'm not sure whether you're taking the problems with the suggested solutions seriously.
Staff aren't conjuring up a spectre of what people might do - people derailing threads with accusations of AI use happens a lot, right now. It even happens in threads with AI tags.
I'm currently consolidating the AI tags as part of my next batch in the 'fixing the tag system' thread, so it'll be easier to filter out whatever level of AI use you want. I'll also be putting the consolidated tags in a place of prominence in the Suggested Tags threads. But any and all tags are still voluntary, so this won't solve your problem, just help a bit.
I understand your point of view, and as a moderator, I'm sure you got clearer perspective of what goes on in the forum. For "Witch Hunts" All I can say is that I can't control other people, nor can I predict their actions like we're in Minority Report, all I can do is realize it's a factor. Still, allowing this fear to paralyze the staff and in turn, letting unethical AI usage run unchallenged isn't doing anyone any favors. Specially to ethical AI authors, because all this resentment that is being created out of the unethical AI authors is being reflected into AI as a whole.
Hmm, if there were to be a mandated tag, a simple generalized tag of "AI usage" could do. This would encompass all forms of AI usage in text, it would then be up to the author to introduce other AI tags to signify what AI usage there is if they wish to.
I appreciate all efforts taken into making the site more usable, you have my thanks for that.