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Exaltations, Plot and Crossovers

Discussion in 'Creative Writing' started by Heaven Canceler, Mar 14, 2015.

  1. Biigoh

    Biigoh Primordial Tanuki Moderator

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    Sure you can... repeat... First Age Dragonblooded eugenics. :3
     
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  2. Heaven Canceler

    Heaven Canceler Behind You!

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    So it wouldn't work for a Setting that has a Fate System unless it is identical with the one in creation and the Sidereals cannot adapt to another System? Damn, in that way they are the least impressive Exalts.

    So you would Need some Kind of reasoning, like it is some far off future of Creation where everything is different, all the gods are dead and the Loom is dormant and when the Character exalts, he has to bring the Loom back up to get his powers to work.

    Alternatively, would it be possible for a Sidereal to reproduce the Loom? Or something similar that is. Or if the backstory had something like a Solar trying to create an outpost for Creation and just after he was done with making the Loom, he was eaten by a local Monster or something.

    Edit: And couldn't you have Dragonblooded by having an Ancestor be a summoned guy from Creation or something? Everyone in Creation is related to Dragonblooded by now, so it should be reasonable.
     
  3. Biigoh

    Biigoh Primordial Tanuki Moderator

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    It is less that they can not adapt, but more that their charms are tied to their loom of fate and works by doing reality edits there.

    But that is the current sidereals... Primordial War Sidereals and some of the alt. Sidereals are monstrous beasts.
     
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  4. kinglugia

    kinglugia A Randy Avian

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    ???
     
  5. Biigoh

    Biigoh Primordial Tanuki Moderator

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    alt ala Shards of Exalted Dreams or alt variants that players home-brew.
     
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  6. UrsaTempest

    UrsaTempest Yuri Fanatic, Archivist

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    Shards' Sidereal, for example.

    Anyway, I think it is valid to rule Sidereal can 'interface' with whatever the equivalent of your verse' Fate, perhaps with some penalty, and will take a while for them to really get how the system works. Alternatively, just use Sidereal's power as inspiration: Get the same result, but the process isn't tied to Fate like in Creation.
     
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  7. tehelgee

    tehelgee The stern gaze of justice. Administrator

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    One big thing hampering Sidereals is that they cannot create new Charms. Others, even Infernals, can but not the Sidereals.
     
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  8. UrsaTempest

    UrsaTempest Yuri Fanatic, Archivist

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    Houserule. :V

    Again, this can be solved by, well, simply changing how alternate-Sidereal works in the different universe. For example, I think in Heaven's Reach they are essentially administrator of planet-wide network, so it'd make sense for them to 'program' their own charm, while in Gunstar the Maidens is quite reachable - presumably, they can request new charms if needed.

    Modern Exalted, however, is dumb. So let's not talk about it.
     
  9. Green Sun Over Paradise

    Green Sun Over Paradise Not too sore, are you?

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    Hey guys, can anyone point me towards some homebrewed Kimbery charms? I've got a load of Revlid and ES stuff, but more would be helpful.
     
  10. Jiven

    Jiven Most Excellent Lurker

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    Dumb ? Why ?
     
  11. UrsaTempest

    UrsaTempest Yuri Fanatic, Archivist

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    The basic premise of Modern Exalted is there is hidden group that no one knows about controlling the world. Seems pretty dandy, eh? Except said group is Infernal Exalted. Oh, also, no one but them and Sidereal supposed to know their existence.

    In case you don't get why it is dumb, go read Malfeas Excellency.
     
  12. Green Sun Over Paradise

    Green Sun Over Paradise Not too sore, are you?

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    Or just have a look at the She Who Lives In Her name Charmset, the fact that there is even anything even resembling free will is a miracle in and itself.
     
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  13. Nervaqus987

    Nervaqus987 Well worn.

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    Well, to be fair, not every Infernal has to be a Malfeas approved Devil God shaking the earth with each footstep.

    But, well.....they're still preeetty bad at subtly.


    Heaven's Reach though, that was awesome.

    Aside from.....certain noticeable bits of stupidity that is easily overlooked.
     
  14. Green Sun Over Paradise

    Green Sun Over Paradise Not too sore, are you?

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    Which were those? The lack of Infernals, that annoyed me to no end.
     
  15. Nervaqus987

    Nervaqus987 Well worn.

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    There's actually implications of Infernals here or there and easy ways to fit them in(although there's some fluff issues,).

    But no. The thing I'm talking about is those fucking speeds listed for the spaceships.

    I know it's comparatively minor in the grand scheme of things but it seriously knocks me straight out of the setting every time I look at them and I go "I probably make a Solar that can run faster than your goddamn spaceships. Before E5!"

    Seriously, it's like a slap to the face with a live fish.

    Oh, and Lunars somehow ruling a galaxy. God alone knows how the fuck they pulled that off.
     
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  16. UrsaTempest

    UrsaTempest Yuri Fanatic, Archivist

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    Heaven's Reach is that setting where Exalted are some kind of nanomachine upgrade or some such, right? Where Solar voluntarily exiling themselves?
     
  17. horngeek

    horngeek I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    Yeah. Which is the thing I wasn't too keen on- I would have preferred an Asura's Wrath style, 'Mantra Reactor' take on them.
     
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  18. Nervaqus987

    Nervaqus987 Well worn.

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    Not.....exactly.

    Okay, summarizing.

    In the backstory of Heaven's Reach, humanity in the distant past experimented with genetic augmentation and taping psychic powers which resulted in the Dragonblooded. Further experiments discovered that the Psychic Powers were in actuality Essence manipulation abilities, which then became the new "It" field of research.

    On Luna, scientists created the first Lunar Exaltations(named such because they were made on the fucking moon). They did originally involve nanotech, but also contained a healthy helping of Essence based spiritual technology. After long scientific advancement, the nanotech became femtotech and the Essence Tech became even more advanced, resulting in modern day Lunars.

    At some point after this, the Stellar Intelligences were created. They were the setting equivalent of the Primordials and were created by using stellar phenomena; stars, nebula, ect combined with vast Essence based mechanisms.

    Sometime during or after this time period(things are kinda unclear), the Solars and Sidereals were created.

    Solar Exalts are apparently almost purely Essence based and were designed to act as a go between for the Stellar Intelligences and the rest of humanity.

    Sidereals were designed to look after, administrate, and manage the Grand Celestial Mountain. The Essence based virtual reality thingy that runs the space internet and all other sorts of things. I think Sidereal Exaltations are supposed to be a combination of Essence based and Quantum based technology, thus making them Double Bullshit.
     
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  19. Skitzyfrenic

    Skitzyfrenic Elves are for lewding.

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    So, not really sure if this is kosher due to the date of the last post, but when I went through the rules, it didn't actually say anything about necro'ing, but if this was a 'bad Skitzy' moment I shall learn and am willing to take my lumps. And I didn't want to start a new thread when one literally has the title that this question would fit into.

    How would crafting manifest itself in a more modern society? Like if I dropped a twilight/defiler into Worm, the DCU, or Marvel. Would we see (relatively quickly, in a few months (at least) for Marvel/DCU stuff, if not right off the bat) low level tinker/Iron Man/LuthorTech/Wayne Tech? And would the twilight/defiler eventually outstrip many if not all of the other tech sources? I'd expect the Asgardian magi-tech to take a looong time to actually achieve, but Kree levels of tech might be within a decade of a twilight's grasp if not sooner, depending on how hard the crafter went after it.

    The infrastructure is in place to quickly get all sorts of material, plus science is a long way ahead of Creation, which would, reasonably, put more mundane (yet advanced) tech (Like having a touch screen phone in the early nineties, or some sort of nifty power source the math is right for but no one can actually figure out how to engineer the damn thing, like zero point taps) or easily within reach, with some essence-tech following along in its wake. I mean the most real crafting I've seen is cooking, tailoring, and modifying someone else's tech (with the Iris of Innovation).
     
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  20. Nervaqus987

    Nervaqus987 Well worn.

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    One of the first things you have to realize about Craft is that it is very context sensitive.

    Standard Creation is a Bronze Age setting. You don't have high precision tools or access to the various materials, chemicals, etc, that you would have in a modern day setting.

    Because of this, while you can do something like create a combat robot, it is typically the result of a master craftsmen laboring for years and likely adding in numerous magical elements like the Magical Materials, spells, invoking gods and spirits, etc, to get around the issues of having to build a fucking robot on a Bronze Age tech base.

    In a modern day setting with access to the sort of tech and materials available, an Exalt wouldn't have to use magic to get their robot working because they don't have to kick physics in the nuts as much. They'd probably still work in magic because that means that their robots would be better than they would be if it was just mundane tech.

    Now we get into "What sort of stuff does an Exalt build in a modern setting?" (And assuming an actual sane craft system.)

    Well, one of the first things I want to mention is that after the Exalted had time to sit down and work on their tech, they jumped from Bows and Arrows straight to Laser Cannons. Now, admittedly, they were using magitech, but for Exalts there's really not much difference.

    Anyways, a Craft focused Exalt is effectively at the absolute boundary of human capability in virtually every field they set their hand to. For baseline humans, an absolute master of their chosen field working under perfect circumstances in a situation they'd probably only get to once in their lifetime is probably just equal to a Craft focused Exalt in terms of mundane skill. Maybe less, depending on factors. Then the Exalts start applying magic.

    Just with basic Excellencies, they're operating on a scale massively beyond baseline humanity. Then you add in other things like Craft Interval Reducers, Success Adders, etc.

    The end result is someone capable of feats of design, engineering, etc faaaar ahead of the curve and able to do in days and weeks what it would take others months and years.
     
  21. Skitzyfrenic

    Skitzyfrenic Elves are for lewding.

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    That was my thought process, but, Iunno, kinda brain dead today and needed someone else to have the same thoughts as me. Thanks.
     
  22. Smuthunter

    Smuthunter Begone Thot!

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    Two to the head and still breathing. Buried alive, heart still beating. Luck they call it. But it's not luck. It's sheer bloody-minded refusal to lie down and accept the hand you were dealt. Luna smiles on people like you.

    The robot digs, expecting a corpse. Doesn't expect the arm that bursts through the surface of the shallow grave. Furred and clawed, like a beast that hasn't been seen in these parts since before the bombs fell.

    It was the man in the suit who put the two in your head. He took something of yours, you don't quite remember what. Luna may have marked you but she hasn't healed you, and the two in your head have left their mark as well. But all the same you have his scent. Gunsmoke, expensive liquor. He heads south along the highway. He has answers. He knows what he took from you. And you have a trail.

    Exalted / Fallout: New Vegas
    Lunar Courier
     
  23. Plotvitalnpc

    Plotvitalnpc Personification Personified

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    I'm half tempted to start providing Dungeons the Dragoning exaltation story ideas.
    But...I don't actually have any.
     
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  24. MerelysSoul

    MerelysSoul Warning: Tends to irreverent in most situations.

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    Dungeons the Dragoning?
     
  25. Nervaqus987

    Nervaqus987 Well worn.

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    Dungeons: The Dragoning.

    Fairly interesting, though personally not my cup of tea.
     
  26. MerelysSoul

    MerelysSoul Warning: Tends to irreverent in most situations.

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    Looks like the same crossover RPG as CthuluTech. Interesting.
     
  27. backtoback

    backtoback Getting sticky.

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    Lunars are slightly different now in 3E, they instead are people who break free. One of the new Lunars is a would be slave that jumped off a slave-ship into a shark infested water and Exalted while doing so, Not after surviving the shark but while jumping into them. Also, if you want it from the core leak here it is:
     
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    kinglugia A Randy Avian

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    When we get the 3E Lunar book, I'm so getting myself a Full Moon caste.
     
  29. backtoback

    backtoback Getting sticky.

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    It's the Tyrant Lizards isn't it?
     
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    kinglugia A Randy Avian

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    Nah, not just the Tyrant Lizards . . . I like the simple warrior fighting against constraints kind of playstyle...