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A New Player in the Force (SW/Lite Gamer)

Discussion in 'Creative Writing' started by USSExplorer, Apr 24, 2020.

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  1. Ke7He5

    Ke7He5 Getting some practice in, huh?

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    I have no problem with cliffhanger or the multiple point of view as people react to cam reaching for the dark side. It's well executed and make for a great chapter !

    I do however find that there is some contradiction in how cam approach gamer mind. I don't really care if he uses it or not in the last three chapter, I just find how he justify it to himself quite discordant (which is completely subjective). I will try to explain where that feeling of wrongness come from fo me.


    As the first point, I can't comprehend how adrenaline can give better reflex and speed compared to force speed and bullet time ? Just look up this video of Qui Gon and Kenobi VS Trade Federation Droids and how they evade with a speed no hormone reaction could improve in anyway. While it could be a good thing when not using or being able to use said powers it does not feel like it would add anything to them. Worse it come at the price of loosing focus and clarity of thought which are critical in battle. And Cam as a military man should be aware of that. It may be a crutch that needs to go but now is the worst moment for tossing it away.

    He did forget about player mind when that whole fiasco came about and could still forget about using it now especially after finishing a fight to the death just to be shot. It would flow better to him tapping the dark side than any justification for not using the power.

    This is the second point. This monologue is completely irrelevant to his current critical and deadly situation. It might be caused by his wound and things happening too quickly to catch a breath. That would however be a point for player mind as it not only mute emotions but help to keep focus and think clearly.

    It is however a good point. It would benefit him to learn better emotional control which he should do in a safe environment. He did abuse player mind a lot. It's one thing to use it to escape palpatine and the jedi council notice and another to use it whenever he is rattled.

    I just can't help feeling that would have been something to leave for the next chapter as him not using player mind was what led to him almost dying. He didn't remove his bracer with the code when he decided to radio in for a rescue to try in another place and the krayt dragon appeared. I would imagine that in the near future when reflecting on how this is not a game (good character growth !) he would think about when to use player mind and that point could be made there.

    As a last point I would point out the lack of logic in using the fact no one else as player mind as an argument as no one else as a minimap or an inventory and Cam use them with relish. The other argument like is talk with Serra and feeling unnatural when cutting off his emotion are perfectly valid points and do not need additional justifications to explain his desire to not use player mind.

    Those are the points I feel made an impact on the discordant feeling the Cam PoV part of the chapter left in me.

    Keep up the good work, I'm thrilled to see Fay reaction and the result in next chapter !
     
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  2. GrandmasterEli

    GrandmasterEli Versed in the lewd.

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    See some pushback on the Player's Mind debate. That's fine, everyone is entitled to their own opinions. That being said, it seems like people don't really get the issue. First, to get this out of the way, Player's Mind doesn't "emotionally lobotomize" you. I don't know who came up with that fanon bullshit, but anyone who's actually read The Gamer manhwa knows that shit ain't true. It does three things ala the canon flavor text:
    1. Allows the user to calmly and logically think things through.
    2. Allows peaceful state of mind.
    3. Immunity to mental disorder.
    Mechanically and narratively, what this meant in the story was that the MC couldn't lose his shit, nor could his mind be breached by anything less than a fucking fellow OP cheat character who could rival him with her own bullshit abilities and only after he "activated her trap card"(and she still couldn't close the deal and take over his mind). But there are plenty of instances of the original Gamer MC feeling shocked, scared, surprised, happy, pissed, embarrassed, smug, etc. Gamer's mind just prevents him from actually losing his shit for any given reason, or any other debilitating mental effects like pain, exhaustion, confusion, blinding rage from fucking up his thought process. His emotions weren't suppressed, there was just an ever-present bastion of peace/order that his thoughts fell back on, instead of being overwhelmed and breaking down as a normal person would.

    Will all that being said, Cameron's choice not to use it when he was beginning to freak the fuck out the last chapter and when he was on the verge of his mind going blank from the pain this chapter, makes no fucking sense for the reasons given. And you know what? The reason could have been as illogical and emotional, but also simple, as "he didn't like the way it made him feel." That would have been totally fine on its own. Would have set up a plot point for some later introspection too.

    But instead, the main reason given comes off as complete and total dumbassery from a reincarnate who has seen war. He tries to justify his decision using a logic that makes no fucking sense and holds no water. You don't use life and death situations as training opportunities. But I've gone over that in a previous post. Needless to say, his "reasons" for not using it were given simply to cover up the fact that the author was setting up a situation where he would be pushed to use the Dark Side, which couldn't happen if he had that ability active.

    Which to be fair, makes sense from a writing perspective.

    'A' needs to happen for the character to use 'C', but that can't happen if the character is using 'B', so having a reason for 'B' to be not active. Makes sense, but it's the bullshit reason given that makes it feel so fucking contrived and robs me of my narrative enjoyment. I can literally feel the author reaching into Cam's mind and going "oh, that could be tricky, lets have him use this bit of reasoning instead so that he doesn't do that". And that's the absolute worst thing you want a reader to be able to feel.

    Once the presence of a man behind the curtain becomes obvious, you lose the magic.
     
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  3. lunasmeow

    lunasmeow Verified Dragon Deity, Roller of Ever-Winning Dice

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    ...Seriously? One of the best selling book stories in human history and he "doesn't think it will make much money".

    Yes, this world has Jedi and force users. It also has plenty of worlds where force users are few and FAR between, making them legendary wizards in local equivalence. This is a story about wizards and magic and shit. And a Royal Princess, who doubtless has entire LIBRARIES at her disposal, thinks it's brilliant.

    Um, what?

    Even if it only sells MODERATELY well, in a "country" as big as the Republic is, that's a TON of sales! That's... arrrggggggg. Does he not understand finance!? With that many potential readers, let alone any potential movie deals that could come if it's successful enough, the royalties alone are insane! It made insane money on just Earth, let alone an entire GALAXY! And he's got his name to go on for sales too - a book written by him, the "legendary" descendant of Bastila Shan and Revan, would for no other reason than his NAME sell in the beginning, and then once people realized it was actually GOOD?

    If his photographic memory also includes things from his past life, then he should stop everything and just reproduce all the best sellers! Harry Potter, A Song of Ice and Fire, Lord of the Rings, and so many more. He would be able to fund basically whatever the hell he wanted after that!

    I get you probably didn't want to make him "insta-rich" and get rid of many obstacles (though wealth won't solve everything, it does fix a LOT) but in that case his photographic memory would be better off just working on anything he saw AFTER getting the skill and not before, because book sales would make him INSANE money. ESPECIALLY if he just self-published and sold it in e-book format on datapads, since he doesn't need an editor or anything, and everyone uses datapads anyway!

    I'm... the sheer dissonance between what happened and how that should have went down is killing me.
     
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  4. Solusandra

    Solusandra Foxes are Fantastic

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    Players mind isn't a bad power, its just that authors always reinterpret it away from the source material. For Jihan in the manga/litenovel gamers mind allowed him to feel quite a bit, but his reactions to things were limited to what a player would experience sitting behind their keyboard, playing a favorite new game. A good horror game could still scare the shit out of you... but it wouldn't be freeze and piss your pants terror no matter how skilled the devs were. An enemy mage could use mind control on your character, but it would show up as a debuff, not as a psychic attack affecting you. Romances would be as impactful as any dating sim. are you the sort to get wrapped up in the waifu wars?

    Not... this. This emotionless liability offered by most fanfiction writers.

    But I think, given how explorer is playing with the tropes, that he intends for that to be corrected with the next "game update" at cams 18th bday.
    definitely. The perspectives and developments abroad were good content, it just would have been better had cams part been posted with the previous chapter with the perspectives as an interlude and cam not juggling the idiot ball of the bracers and power choices. Him getting his shit kicked in by plot anti-armor and cliffhangers makes for good tension, idiot balls do not.

    Game of thrones would work. but Harry Potter would be harder because the muggle world is pretty important to the setting, despite how little it comes up. If he can juggle that though, I'd add in the Dresdenfiles series. It's got a metric shit ton of applicable ideas for force users and is a great series besides, for all that I often wanna strangle Harry Dresden.
     
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  5. Lynix

    Lynix Know what you're doing yet?

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    I think the most frustrating part of this chapter, was that it was 16k words, and the story didn't seem to progress. He tapped into the dark side... And then we get 2-3k words from a bunch of different perspectives of the same event, but it just seems unnecessary. Additionally, at that point, there's no reason to not pull a gun out of your inventory, and shoot them. Especially if the reinforcements are taking that long to get there.
     
  6. Morde 24

    Morde 24 Morde24

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    I feel so unsatisfied. I realize that the force wave was a great way to check up on the other characters, but I feel like only dooku and sidious were necessary. The rest could be solved with a couple lines when cam meets them again
     
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  7. lunasmeow

    lunasmeow Verified Dragon Deity, Roller of Ever-Winning Dice

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    Well, he's getting better, thankfully. But while he is probably right about the songs, he is wrong about the stories. "Earth specific details" are perfectly valid. We read stories of other worlds all the time. Other worlds with their own "world specific" details. Star Wars being one of them. All he has to do is pass of anything "earth specific" as a result of the "fake world" that his books take place in. How is this not obvious to him?
     
  8. Solusandra

    Solusandra Foxes are Fantastic

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    It's fine for offering to the public, generally speaking, but earth specific details include assumptions it expects the audience to understand about a great deal of the setting. If the audience doesn't twig onto those assumptions, it's much less likely to be well received.
     
  9. alec_potter

    alec_potter Versed in the lewd.

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    I actually liked the chapter, to an extent.
    I have no view on the debate in how a player’s mind power actually works, I am totally willing to go with the narrative/ author’s view even if they later have a moment of introspection and change it. What I didn’t enjoy was internal deliberations on player’s mind when you are in middle of action. From a readers perspective it kinda destroyed the action tempo you were building up.
    If I have to rate the sections then Cam & Sith sections were enjoyable. While we didn’t completely get Pelagius POV, there were enough hints to show it could have far reaching impacts. Plus this chapter demonstrated that Cam does not have plot armour. Which is an important point from narration. Cam is currently focused on versatility, which is great as being a Gamer he can easily & quickly get lot of skills to a good level. But this has come at the cost that he isn’t able to use his best tools for the situation. Like author rightly pointed out Cam forgot to use his teleport skill. So some introspection on those lines is much needed.
    Yoda & Dooku POV were ok, not really useful but gave some confirmations. If you remove those, doesn’t really impact the story. Serra and Padme sections felt more like fillers, kinda confirming that they really ‘admire’ Cam but add little value.

    I have some questions but will Ping you on discord to understand those.
    Thanks again for using your free time to write this fantastic story.
     
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  10. Metabolicjosh

    Metabolicjosh Experienced.

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    I have mixed feelings about this chapter being mostly interludes. I also agree with the comments on gamer’s mind.
     
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  11. Danu

    Danu Know what you're doing yet?

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    Oh, but haven't you heard the author every time somone brings this up? "Don't worry guys, the number of breaths Cameron took while speaking to Mandalorian number seven will be extremely important later in the story!"
     
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  12. Lotharogar

    Lotharogar Experienced.

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    The Gamer Mind fucks with the mind of the user, it is like the Dark Side it is a sweet drug that subtly changes you.

    I mean it was implied by how his Full Jedi future just said fuck it all and kept using Gamer Mind forever, why the fuck would Cameron do such a dumb thing, Gamer Mind is addictive is the only explanation I can think of.
     
  13. Solusandra

    Solusandra Foxes are Fantastic

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    as fanfiction authors usually portray it, yes. As it's portrayed here for specific narrative reasons. As an AU from the source material.
     
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  14. lunasmeow

    lunasmeow Verified Dragon Deity, Roller of Ever-Winning Dice

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    You mean, Deeds not words here, I think.
     
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  15. lunasmeow

    lunasmeow Verified Dragon Deity, Roller of Ever-Winning Dice

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    Latter
     
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  16. lunasmeow

    lunasmeow Verified Dragon Deity, Roller of Ever-Winning Dice

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    Not only a member, but what? There should be something else here too.
     
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  17. lunasmeow

    lunasmeow Verified Dragon Deity, Roller of Ever-Winning Dice

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    Someone has been training with Dooku too long! Lmao.

    This was perfect. A great reflection of the situation, a realistic reaction, while also a reflection of the personality he should have after being with such a master.
     
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  18. lunasmeow

    lunasmeow Verified Dragon Deity, Roller of Ever-Winning Dice

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    This is perfect. Excellent use of the protagonist doing an objectively good thing that works against them regardless.

    Too few authors feel the need to let the bad guys have wins as well as the good guys.

    Wonderfully done.

    And now this is the last current chapter. A hell of a ride! Not often I find things as well written as this, so I look forward to seeing it continued!
     
  19. lunasmeow

    lunasmeow Verified Dragon Deity, Roller of Ever-Winning Dice

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    Okay, now that I have caught up...

    A few things on the latest chapter.

    1. Gamer's Mind - People seem to have all sorts of ideas and claims on what it can prevent. But most of them seem weird.

    A) Someone thought it could stop you being knocked unconscious. Unconsciousness is typically a physical thing, not a "mental status effect".

    B) Gamer's Mind not causing emotional lobotomy. Uh, this is NOT The Gamer. This is a story BASED on the ability FROM The Gamer. As such, it is an AU, and how Gamer's Mind works and what it does or doesn't do is up to the author. So long as they are consistent with how it works, they make the decision, not the reader. Deal with it. Frankly, for THIS setting, having it do that MAKES SENSE, as emotions are the one major "problem" for the MC to overcome - and having Gamer's Mind enhance that problem gives his Gamer abilities a much needed drawback to help counter their effectiveness, which is REALLY needed since no one else seems to have been given anything extra to give Shan a challenge. Game balance is a thing. Without Gamer's Mind having a drawback, it'd cross the line IMHO too far into "Gary Stu" territory instead of just, fun OP protagonist. Since he has very little actual external danger, he needs internal danger. There has to be SOMETHING for him to overcome.

    2. The Krayt Fight - Ended pretty much how I expected, only way to kill it was through the eye and straight into the brain. However the reach for the Dark Side felt contrived here to me, but for a different reason.

    Shan felt desperate enough, but not angry enough. If it had just been desperation, it would have felt fine to me, but when those who felt him touch it felt "RAGE" when he did... it felt off. Like his anger was forced for the scene. It'd have been more believable if it happened when Serra was nearly raped, IMHO. For him to be angrier now than he was then... feels wrong.

    3. Nice to see some other POVs at this juncture. Most seem against you having done that, but I think it fits quite well. Their issue is more one of being impatient for the next part, than valid, IMHO.

    If this were a movie, this would be the perfect place for such a thing, and no one would complain because the scene would happen, and immediately after the movie continues. Thus, I feel that this is just folks whining because they have to wait instead of continuing on, not because it doesn't fit.

    4. Windu - Maybe this is because I know far too little about Mace Windu, but the idea that he is judging Shan based on his LINEAGE rather than Shan himself feels off. Short sighted, but in a way that even the Jedi should comprehend as fucking retarded, even at their worst. It's basically no different than racism, which they are against - but that could be me having a higher bar for them than they should actually have.

    That said, if Shan has been going over all the known force powers, why have we not heard about Shatterpoint from him yet, even if he has to master other powers first? He should know of it, I believe.

    Overall, great work, not perfect, but no story ever is, and jt's always easier to see flaws in works written by others than our own, so keep that in mind when reading criticism, including mine that I sent you in a PM.
     
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  20. Solusandra

    Solusandra Foxes are Fantastic

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    Sure, we get that, but it's the weirdest flex. Why do so many authors want to turn Players mind from a "Don't panic" button to "My Little Sociopath"? It was pretty cool in the beginning that USSExplorer used the contradiction between fannon and source to poke fun at that, subverting things, but then the weird janky monologue made it weird and janky.
    Order 66 (and by extension the dragon and these hunters) are easy examples of danger for even OP characters like Revan and Exar Kun that don't involve a force user with bigger balls. GM doesn't need a flaw for internal or external danger. A better source of pressure were things like with Keto's injuries, where he just didn't have the skills needed to pass the scenario.
     
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  21. Zendrelax

    Zendrelax "All yours. I think it always was. Welcome home."

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    Mace is, in my opinion, a good example of why the Jedi are kind of garbage. His ostensible because two of Cam's great grandparents, Revan and Bastila, not only were Jedi who had kids—which is normally against the rules—but both fell to the Dark Side at one point. Mace being a zealot,he believes that these are unacceptable, and refuses to be moved to the contrary—you'll notice that he failed to actually acknowledge or respond to any of the counter-arguments Yoda presented him with.

    There's also how, in the movies, he was very concerned about the political power of the Jedi Order, and its influence in the Senate in particular. Which is actually pretty damn hypocritical, since Jedi aren't supposed to seek power over others. And if he's concerned about the Order's Power, what about his own? And what is Cam, the most obvious Chosen One that ever was, if not a threat to the entrenched power of the established order?

    So, yeah, I think a big part of his problem is that he feels Cam is a threat to the established power structure within the Order, and possibly to himself in particular. Whether or not he acknowledges this, or if he's lying to himself about those feelings, is another matter entirely.
    I think it works in the context of this story. It's basically an easy button for achieving Jedi Serenity, or something close enough to approximate it. Which is kind of a big deal, considering how it's been foreshadowed that he'll go down a Grey path.
     
  22. lunasmeow

    lunasmeow Verified Dragon Deity, Roller of Ever-Winning Dice

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    The inner monologue is entirely separate from the point I was making. I was talking about how the ability works, not how the character expressed things.

    My point is that people seem to be batching about "so many authors change the ability that way" and that's not a valid complaint.

    It doesn't matter if a million other authors made the same change and it was a stupid one in their story - what matters is if that change fits THIS story. Butching about what other authors did, to THIS author, is ridiculous, as he has nothing to do with that.

    Basically, until people lay out a complaint for why that change doesn't work in THIS story and setting, nothing they say about that change holds any merit whatsoever.

    That said, again, the change itself, and the monologue ABOUT that change are two entirely different things.
    Except that he already KNOWS about Order 66, and the only real danger of that, was the surprise.

    You cannot call a surprise attack a danger when it is no longer a surprise attack, especially if the one launching it doesn't know that you know. That typically turns it from a danger into an advantage. Especially with him gathering an army of his own to counter the clone army.

    Sorry, but this point has no valid grounds in the context of this story, which again, is my point. People need to focus on the context of THIS story, and not all the others they may have read, for their criticisms to hold merit.

    Each story is self contained, and must be judged as such, not as a collective, which is what most here are doing, albeit seemingly unintentionally.
     
  23. Solusandra

    Solusandra Foxes are Fantastic

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    lunasmeow you're going to granular and either missing or ignoring the point of the arguments.

    Massed fire has already taken down Cam's shields in story when he knew about it, so the surprise of order 66 isn't the issue. Even if he'd taken off his bracers, the combination of the hunters and the dragon are believably enough to wear him down as well. there is plentiful sufficient pressure in the setting to take down even the memorable names of the setting. The bracers weren't needed and the weird excuses and hickups made the narrative strained and janky.

    Players mind was played up in this story repeatedly as a subversion of both source material and fan cliche's, so coming back to an out of place monologue that doesn't fit with the rest of his uses or monologues and is bad timing on top of that made the narrative strained and janky.

    You're focusing too much on the false dichotomy of author source vs original source when we've been using both as simultaneous justification.
     
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    ArcaneReader Master Of The Arcane (Not)

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    Damn took me like 3 days to get through all of that. Also because of this story I have purchased kotor1 and if i enjoy it ill be getting kotor2 as well.
     
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  25. Solusandra

    Solusandra Foxes are Fantastic

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    Pretty sure you will. Despite the ancient graphics, it's a pretty good game. And quite replayable, which is uncommon.
    After you play KOTOR2 though, you should watch The Philosophy of Kreia. Its kinda crazy the stuff you can miss playing heavy sith or jedi in either game.
     
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    The Dude Verified Not Jeff Bridges

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    Maybe it's just my take on the force as yin and yang instead of good and evil, but I just instinctively end up going mid-ground in games that give you a choice.
     
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    Monitor A Monitor sitting before a Monitor

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    I am currently rereading, and right aligned is a pain for me to read.

    May I suggest to use a different font instead?
     
  28. Index: Stats at the end of the Mando'ade Arc
    USSExplorer

    USSExplorer Doing what's necessary, even if it causes chaos

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    A/N: This is NOT the monthly chapter. Just a statement of where Cam is in his skills.
    (Though I hate dealing with these tables in FFN, and might stop them at some point.)




    Stats, Skills, Powers, Perks and Player Powers 3
    This is just a listing of the current level, stats, skills, powers, perks and titles of Cameron.
    If you are not too interested in the values that run behind the scenes, then you don't need to bother reading.​


    Current date: Month 4 Year 964sRR (since Russan Reformation)
    [Or 36BBY in the canon timeline]​



    • Cameron Shan
      Species: Human
      Title: The Player
      Age: 13
      Level 26
      HP: 260/260
      FP: 16900/16900
      PP:44/44
      XP [17255/32000]
      STAM [1074/1074]
      Hunger [65/100]
      STR: 21 +
      VIT: 21 +
      AGI: 21 +
      INT: 23 +
      WIS: 23 +
      CHA: 23 +
      Luck: 0 + [+10]
      SP: 28
      SKP: 362
      PerkP: 0
      PPP: 0
      Credits: 292564


      • Form I: Shii-Cho
        Prodigy 2
        Form II: Makashi
        MAXED
        Form III: Soresu
        Master 29
        Form IV: Ataru
        Professional 44
        Form V: Shien
        Professional 44
        Form V: Djem-So
        Professional 13
        Form VI: Niman
        Professional 32

      • Lightsaber [Standard]
        MAXED
        Lightsaber [Shoto]
        Adept 8
        Marksmanship
        Savant 96
        Melee Weapons [1-handed]
        Professional 20
        Melee Weapons [2-handed]
        Adept 1
        Melee Weapons [Thrown]
        Adept 50
        Ranged Weapons [1-handed]
        Savant 34
        Ranged Weapons [2-handed]
        Savant 33
        Ranged Weapons [Heavy]
        Adept 2

      • Athletics
        Professional 72
        Damage Resistance [Bio-Chemical]
        Novice 13
        Damage Resistance [Energy]
        Savant 2
        Damage Resistance [Physical]
        Adept 39
        Damage Resistance [Sonic]
        Novice 2
        Damage Resistance [Thermal]
        Novice 2
        Hand to Hand
        Master 6
        Martial Art: Beskar'pel
        Professional 24
        Martial Art: Beskar'rev
        Professional 24
        Martial Art: Teräs Käsi
        Novice 24
        Swimming
        Professional 37

      • Astrogation
        Adept 97
        Piloting [Atmospheric]
        Professional 1
        Piloting [Space]
        Professional 1
        Riding [4-legged]
        Novice 73

      • Lockpicking
        Novice 16
        Sleight of Hand
        Novice 49
        Stealth
        Professional 27

      • Computer [Electronics]
        Professional 57
        Computer [Programming]
        Professional 38
        Computer [Slicing]
        Professional 69
        Mechanics [Blasters]
        Adept 96
        Mechanics [Droids]
        Adept 67
        Mechanics [Engines]
        Professional 50
        Mechanics [Fighters]
        Professional 42
        Mechanics [Lightsaber]
        Adept 10
        Mechanics [Speeders]
        Adept 52
        Mechanics [Starships]
        Master 13

      • Language [Basic]
        Prodigy 25
        Language [Binary]
        Professional 1
        Language [Durese]
        Novice 13
        Language [German]
        Adept 12
        Language [Huttese]
        Professional 13
        Language [Mando'a]
        Professional 56
        Language [Rodese]
        Novice 15
        Language [Ryl]
        Adept 27
        Language [Shaddaboranese]
        Professional 27
        Language [Sullustese]
        Novice 25
        Language [Togruti]
        Adept 4

      • Anatomy [Duros]
        Novice 16
        Anatomy [Human]
        Professional 23
        Anatomy [Ithorian]
        Novice 9
        Anatomy [Rodian]
        Novice 2
        Anatomy [Sullustan]
        Novice 10
        Anatomy [Togruta]
        Novice 5
        Anatomy [Trandoshan]
        Novice 8
        Anatomy [Twi'lek]
        Novice 33
        Anatomy [Weequay]
        Novice 8
        Anatomy [Zabrak]
        Novice 36
        Forensics
        Adept 28
        Medicine [First Aid]
        Professional 76
        Medicine [Hospital]
        Adept 12

      • Combined Arms Warfare
        Adept 52
        Planetary Warfare
        Novice 39
        Small Unit Warfare
        Master 5
        Warfare [Space]
        Novice 98

      • Concentration
        MAXED
        Composure
        60/100
        Danger Sense
        45/100
        Meditation
        MAXED
        Teaching
        Master 86

      • Deception
        Master 22
        Intimidation/Taunting
        Master 5
        Lie Detection
        Master 21
        Musical Instrument [Synthtar]
        Adept 58
        Negotiation
        Professional 46
        Perception
        Professional 42
        Persuasion
        Master 65
        Seduction/Flirting
        Adept 15
        Singing
        Professional 26
        Survival
        Adept 92

      • Kissing
        Adept 12
        Massage
        Novice 45

      • Cleaning
        Professional 5
        Cooking
        Adept 12
        Economics
        Adept 32

      • Absorb Energy [Tutaminis]
        Novice 1 [LOCKED]
        Breath Control
        Prodigy 10
        Control Pain
        Novice 8
        Enhance Senses
        MAXED
        Enhance Skill
        MAXED
        Enhance Stat
        MAXED
        Empathic Shield
        MAXED
        Force Enlightenment
        Novice 1 [LOCKED]
        Force Fury
        Novice 1
        Heal
        Professional 25
        Negate Hunger
        Professional 88
        Purge Toxin
        Novice 12
        Restore Stamina
        Prodigy 24
        Silence
        Master 46
        Speed
        MAXED
        Serenity
        MAXED
        Tapas
        MAXED
        Telepathic Shield
        MAXED
        Valour: Active
        Novice 1
        Valour: Passive
        Prodigy 62

      • Bullet-Time [Reflex]
        MAXED
        Comprehend Speech
        MAXED
        Detection
        MAXED
        Empathy
        MAXED
        Force Attune
        Professional 17
        Force Fear
        Novice 1 [Locked]
        Precognition
        MAXED
        Sever Force
        Novice 1
        Sight
        MAXED
        Sense Force
        Prodigy 77
        Telepathy
        Professional 84
        Vision
        Novice 6

      • Aerokinesis
        Professional 1
        Alter Mind
        Novice 1[LOCKED]
        Barrier
        Savant 84
        Battle Meditation: Active
        Novice 17
        Battle Meditation: Passive
        MAXED
        Blast
        Professional 18
        Camouflage
        Novice 5
        Cloak
        MAXED
        Compulsion [Mind Trick]
        Master 65
        Control Beast
        Adept 5
        Cryokinesis
        Professional 39
        Deadly Sight
        Novice 1 [Locked]
        Deflection
        Professional 15
        Dominate Mind
        Novice 1[LOCKED]
        Electrokinesis
        Professional 1
        Force Affliction
        Novice 1 [Locked]
        Force Crush
        Master 8
        Force Drain
        Novice 1
        Force Persuasion
        Master 85
        Force Plague
        Novice 1 [Locked]
        Force Scream
        Novice 1
        Force Slow [Force Weaken]
        Novice 46
        Geokinesis
        Professional 1
        Hydrokinesis
        Professional 1
        Illusion
        Adept 92
        Inanimate Conversion [Matter Rearrangement]
        Professional 53
        Inertia
        Master 25
        Ionize
        Novice 84
        Jump
        Prodigy 80
        Levitation
        Prodigy 92
        Lightning
        Novice 21
        Lightsaber Telekinesis
        Novice 1[LOCKED]
        Mind Probe
        Novice 1
        Phase
        Prodigy 18
        Plant Control
        Novice 5
        Pyrokinesis
        Professional 39
        Restore
        Novice 13
        Repulse /Shockwave
        Novice 1[LOCKED]
        Stun
        Master 59
        Suppression
        Prodigy 55
        Telekinesis
        MAXED
        Teleport
        Master 5
        Wave/ Whirlwind
        Novice 1

      • Oneness
        Novice 1 [LOCKED]

      • Ambidextrous
        Boosted Growth
        Eidetic Memory
        Empathy
        Heart of the Force [1/2]

      • Heart of the Force [2/2]
        Inventory
        Observe
        Player's Body
        Player's Mind
        Silent Interface
        Upgraded Minimap

      • Jedi [2/5]
        Leader [4/10]
        Mando'ade
        Mtael
        The Player

    • (Letter under a quest is its rating)

      Cash in Hand [¤]

      Changing Fate [Anakin]
      [S***]
      Changing Fate [Dooku]
      [A]
      Changing Fate [Giiett]

      Changing Fate [Qui-Gon]

      Changing Fate [Sifo-Dyas]

      Flight of the Owl [¤]

      Force to the Max [¤]
      [C]
      Forge your own Path
      [N/A]
      Hope of the Borans [¤]

      Just Don't Get Caught [¤]
      [C]
      Knight Before Queen [¤]
      [C]
      Pre-emptive Strike [¤]

      Skilled to the Max [¤]
      [D]
      Sister of the Night [¤]
      [A]
      The Promise of the Fallen [ꝏ]

      Training Superiority [¤]
      Variable
      Tremors of the Ancient Sith Empire
      [S***]
      You Can't Hurt Me. [¤]



     
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  29. FTR2017

    FTR2017 Well worn.

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    Holy guacamole, that's a lot of skills and thingies on that table! :eek:

    Seriously though, I do hope that you don't let those details bog you down in the storytelling unless they help out to move the story along.

    Otherwise, that's a whole load of details to keep tabs on, and that can cripple productivity something fierce. :(

    Thanks for the share, it puts things in perspective as to how productive has Cameron been. :)
     
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  30. VATSTeen

    VATSTeen Experienced.

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    Shouldn't you remove Player's Mind if you insist on not using it from now on? It feels weird.
     
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