With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

"Hello He-Man, have you meet your sister Adora?"

 

She does I just prefer to pretend otherwise.

 

I'm going to say when she started, she didn't, and then she got.... 'reminded' and found some way to get a shapeshifting layer that could be called 'clothes'.

 

Thank you, corrected.

 

Maybe is the whole being a white martian thing as in they were not allowed manhunter like clothes.

 

About M'gann (and Martians) - One has to wonder exactly when they started wearing clothes. They couldn't have evolved with shapeshifting clothes; that's just silly. It's something they must have later invented. The question is... why? Would they worn traditional clothes prior to that? They are shapesnifters, and in their native form, they all look the same from what I've seen. Wearing anything would interfere with their physical abilities, so it's unlikely they would wear anything. And... clothing is traditionally worn for two reasons: protection from the elements and for modesty.

Martians generally live in caves/underground, so them needing protection from the elements is unlikely, especially with their shapeshifting abilities (we've seen M'gann survive being frozen solid, and I doubt it was her Martian clothing that saved her). And Martian males and females look the same.

We see (in S2, I believe) when she's talking with her brother an image of their parents, and they are both wearing different clothing in their native form. I would argue that clothing was introduced simply because M'gann is a female and a main character. We see other non-humanoid races running around naked, like the Genomorphs (other than Dubbilex who is perhaps too human to be naked) and the Kroloteans.

 

My guess? Observqtion of humans.

Megan can telepathically reach from Earth to Mars at some times. She's an incredibly powerful telepath, but presumably not the strongest in history. Some Martian in the past felt the alien minds on earth, looked around, noticed the local, saw the clothes they were wearing, and was inspired.

 

There's no solid answer for this story, but if I had to guess I'd say they weren't wearing cloths so much as carrying a multitool around with them.

 

I think about it this way- What does her organic clothing look like in her true form? A bandolier. An item of clothing for holding things like a tool belt.

So I think its largely for being able to have pockets without having to grow a marsupial-like pouch to use as a purse, which might be unpleasant, inconvenient, or maybe requires more skill than one can safely assume every Martian is capable of.

So I think the answer is that despite Martians being shapeshifters they still want pockets.

 

Or it could have some cultural significance, like them just thinking it looks nice or it could have served as some status symbol.

 

I assume it started as a cultural thing, perhaps even religion. There's a meaning to wearing a robe, or cloak. To a shapeshifter that act of covering yourself with something that isn't of you would have significance to the race. And then there is the practical aspects of it. Belts and pockets are handy for carrying things, gloves are good for things you don't wish to touch. Some folks aren't that great at shapeshifting, John and Megan are particularly good, and combat able shifters, and aren't a great example of the average civilian.

Then you get to the really practical stuff. Martian Scientists needed to make tools to advance their tech, and shapeshifting doesn't make you resistant to chemical, biological or radiological risks. Protective garments would be needed for experimentation and research. There may even be protective shapeshifting armor for true combat operations, because shapeshifting isn't likely to stop some of the hightech weapons martians could come up with to shoot each other. Why focus on shapeshifting armor when you can just make it?

 

I would assume you mean "whelp".

 

Thank you, corrected.

 

While I do believe that Paul will manage to convince her with Evelyn's help, I doubt it will be as easy as in the cartoon.

 

Ahh, using her as bait.

Good question.

There's a lot of space between these two paragraphs.

 

With White Dragon and Vigilante being brought up, I have to wonder if Peacemaker isn't far behind.

 

Sadly according to Zoat he probably won't be brought in.

And if he was then he'd be more like his comic counterpart rather than the show.

 

Courageous of her. But then, she's probably still thinking of Crimson Avenger as 'a woman with guns'. As opposed to magic Guns being carried by a woman. So we can but hope that she doesn't get caught out by that difference.

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Top of the to-do list: checking how they sent her here, I would hope. And are they coming direct from Earth-10, or are they having to side-step from Earth-666? Because that has its own concerns.

I suppose it's harder for a teenager to explain an older woman suddenly hanging around.

Which is impressive at his age.

Which says a lot about her honesty, I guess.

Worried about her losing touch with her humanity? That's an honest concern with powered beings.

Which is probably something to be thankful for, at least. I doubt many civilians would be friendly after they hear 'nazi' in her spiel.

Eh, hardly out of the ordinary for Team missions. At least this time you aren't facing down an evil Lord of Chaos, or getting your memories partially wiped.

Well, Kara, you were interrupting them in the middle of what they saw as important things...

Fat chance.

...Maybe he could work security?

I doubt he spoke much about his 'work' to them.

...Huh. That's an angle no-one considered. Still strange that Crimson Avenger would be doing mod revenge kills, but who knows, someone might have a hold of the Guns' metaphysical leash.

If they asked in terms like 'You ain't starting to like the <racist slurs of your choice>, are ya?' I can see him getting annoyed, yes.

Or just learned to express his beliefs in more acceptable terms. Saying he's 'protecting good white folks' doesn't preclude him still hating other groups.

...I find that unlikely.

Or some other manner of leverage. That bears deeper investigation, I think.

Sadly, the kind of international criminal organisations that tend to turn up in comics tend not to be that friendly to members who are trying to become former members.

Vincent Edge, to refresh memories. Note the connections to Apokalips.

Of course they didn't. No doubt he focused a lot on illegal immigrants.

Would be interesting if she ran into Black Orchid II while she searched. Yes, Black Orchid is a weird character line.

Alpha Centurion, who's playing a leading role in the Alliance? I wonder what he'll have to say about these killings...

Oh, I'm sure the local police are sooo happy with her 'help' so far...

So, the gameplan is starting to take shape. Now to see how badly it gets blown apart because luck.

So, a dead end there. Let's hope the Centurion can shed some light on this.

I wonder how things are going on the League side of things. Because things are looking pretty luke-warm for the Team's findings. I wonder if Intergang really is playing some part in the Crimson Avenger's targetting. If they had a decent magician who could 'encourage' the Guns to target a particular costumed vigilante getting too close to something they shouldn't... That sets all kinds of nasty alarm bells ringing.

 

Though they may be more receptive of her when they discover she views most of the Nazi philosophy as being crap.

Though he seems to lack those connections in this story and is apparently mostly interested in making sure he has a good record when he dies so he doesn't go to Hell.

Seems like it.

He seemed to be close to Edge.

 

Sounds like the demons in those guns is pulling a Black Widow.

Killing people so they go to Hell, wouldn't want them to have a come to Jesus moment and get to sing kumbaya in fluffy white cloud heaven.

I don't remember the original Black Orchid being a killer though, but a mistress of disguise. Well when they weren't a collective identity like Tangent Joker.

 

Mr Zoat, what are the differences between Kara Zor-El and Kara Zor-L's Supergirl costumes that people like Pied Piper can notice that they aren't the same at first glance?

 

Thank you, corrected.

Anyone can wear a costume. She looks different.

 

Zoat it says 20th October in the spoiler box page above the link for this chapter.

 

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I meant to say this when Bltizen showed up, but it's actually rather disturbing she was able to make the trip. Remember that when we last saw Nazi-world portal technology it was very nearly lethal to use and only Overman could survive the trip. (He had to physically rip open the dimensional walls.) Their only other method was using magic, and they don't trust magic. So how did Blitzen even get to Earth-16? If they fixed their inter-dimensional travel, it's very possible plans for an inter-dimensional invasion are being drawn up. If not to Earth-16, maybe an Earth-Prime style one that has fewer superhumans and is an easier target.

 

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It sounds to me like Overgirl used technology from somewhere other than her home parallel to retrieve Blitzen.

 

Can’t Paul talk to the dead or get someone to talk to the dead?
At this point it’s possible right?

 

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Yes, but the it's not all that simple.

For example, if the individuals that were killed ended up in Hell, which is a possibility, then it may not be safe to summon them.

Granted Paul has Mammon.