With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Mr Zoat completely forgot about that splicing guy...

 

I don't think he uses Zeus, so it should be okay? ...I also don't think he ever turns it off ANYWAYS, so...
Also now I'm imagining some kind of Bizzaro Marvel, where he takes all the wrong traits. Such as the kindness of Ares, or the chastity of Zeus.

 

Is he constrained by actual human technology, or the idea of technology in human minds? And will he be able to grow with research and development?

 

The seconds, though that's based on the first to a large degree.

His own or human R&D? He probably won't gain much in the way of raw power, but he's not really dependent on that.

 

I would also point out if Hephestus is now drawing from Human perception of technology he should probably have the same problem the Bureau had in Control.

 

I'm just going to say, the way people think tech works and the way it actually works are way different. And if Heph is based on the second, actual R&D will probably play a minor role in his work, and he'll probably be closer to a "it just works" perspective. I think the biggest advantage Heph will have as a god of technology will not be his might, but the fact that, as lord over technology, the human subconscious has likely given him power over technical difficulties. Imagine facing off against him, and all your equipment decides not to work that day, and no repair guy will be able to help. We've already had a taste.

Other powerful abilities will likely be the ability to design tools that perfectly fit a singular purpose. I think the idea of specialized tools is ingrained enough in the human conscious for Heph to piggy back off of it. The phrase "there's an app for that" doesn't come from nowhere.

The ability to divinely inspire nearly any and all craftsman will also be immense. It could mean faster development and mass production of schizo tech, faster development of magical artisans, who normally take decades, bigger steps into magical engineering, like thamosphere extensions, and even better magical mass production. So more gates faster. While none of that is really in the public conscious, possibly preventing Heph from directly doing that stuff, the researchers already working on it are working with technology, and so can receive divine inspiration, allowing them to work better and faster. And once they're done, their results will be technological, so Heph should be able to use them just fine

 

CALLED IT!

But.. Shouldn't he just lose his powers instead?

 

Almost missed this...

We have a prime example of a bad author hand wave here.

It wasn't "oh we worked out something to cut him off" because less then a dozen chapters ago it was established that nobody could do that. It's just him randomly getting cut off for no named in universe reason.

 

…with cameras already…

 

It sounds like he can't transform because the process calls up each of the 7 power modules as part of the procedure.
To transform, spin up S, spin up H, spin up A, etc.
And has a wind down process for turning back into mortal form.
And his Z power module having errors is a gear in the works of that process.

Also, funny that the Flash told Captain Marvel that he should go see OL preemptively.
Like he knew the Z in SHAZAM was for Zeus, who OL was gunning for.
"If something beaks, go see the person who probably broke it."

 

He can't transform because Zeus's power is what let him call and control the transformation lighting.

 

Thor is public domain, but that would make it SHATAM...ugh

 

Need someone bigger then Thor, a big part of the power Zeus granted SHAZAM was the power to use and control magic.

Also as a side... Zeus's power is how Billy was able to reach the Rock of Ages... So there shouldn't be any way for him or anybody else to actually contact SHAZAM...

 

I forget if this has been covered or not in WTR and whether or not it was different from Hesiod's version of the myth, but didn't Heracles free Prometheus?

 

What about just transitioning to a whole new word?

Specifically, BRAWNDO The Thirst Mutilator!

...and use electrolytes in place of the missing electricity...

 

The obvious best resolution of Billy's problem here is for the wizard to take the divine reshuffling as an opportunity to improve on his original spellwork and improve the number of power sources his champion could connect to. The hardest part? Picking gods/demigods/sorcerors who can spell out JEBEDIAH OF CANAAN instead of SHAZAM.

 

I don't think the egocentric wizard is willing to change his name just because a God got powered down.

 

Yep.

Hera decided that for this murder of Zeus's flings, she'd disguise herself and make Semele doubt that her lover was actually Zeus and convinced her to ask Zeus to show her his true form.

Shortly there after, Zeus promised Semele to do one thing she asked of him and, IIRC, swore on the River Styx either for unrelated reasons or in response to her sudden doubts about him. Semele promptly asked to see his true form and Zeus, to his credit, did try and talk her out of it. Unfortunately, she was adamant and Zeus, bound by his oath revealed his true form and vaporized her.

 

Yea... Zoat kind of forgot that as bad as Zeus could be when it came to the idea of female consent...

Hera was much much worse and went around murdering women instead.

 

Yep. Hera has always been a monster. She's a greek god not named Hestia.

 

Faith wise Thor was and still is the most worshipped of the Norse Gods, inverse crosses are called Thor Hammers for a reason.

 

He ragequit his name, Shazamo, when he and Oggar had a falling out.

So somewhere in the DC multiverses there's a Captain Marvel with the charm of Orpheus or something because the Wizard just got another patron.

 

Finally a concrete in story reason to go visit Jupiter and see his side of things. It would make for the smoothest transition with the fewest changes for Billy. SHAJAM even sounds similar

 

Yeah, cause honesty the wizard is a asshole and even had kids with a demon.

Good thing Oh El knows Shazam daughter, right?

 

Now that I think about it, this just sounds like a silly Shazam plot.
"I may not have been able to defeat you before Shazam, but now that I've dethroned Zeus, there's nothing you can do to stop me!"

 

Do titles count?
Like when OL goes to the Rock of Destiny to discuss updating the Z, and how killing and soul binding necromancy on Teth Adom was a really dick move on account of not bothering to make sure Teth actually did the stuff you were killing him for, he could also bring up dusting off the old 'O' and adding the 'Empathy' of Orange Lantern to the powerset? The 'can see/detect peoples desires, and use them to teleport to their location' thing.

Going to be honest here, SHAJAM sounds like a crossover between the movie Space Jam (featuring Michael Jordon) and Kazaam (featuring genie SHAQ)

Where the transformative lightning strike turns you into a Pro NBA basketball player.

 

That was a personal falling out between Oggar and Shazamo, not the same thing here with Zeus.

They're the cross of St Peter, who was crucified upside down. Which is why it's on the throne of st peter in the vatican. Ironically used by anti-christianity groups when in catholicism it means humility to christ.

But yes, Thor is most worshipped.

 

Obviously part of the Justice League of Athletes with Wonderous Serena.

 

Silly? This seems like a rational plot and an interesting story actually. Shazam villain teams up with some greek villain to dethrone Zeus or one of the others to disrupt his power. Forces him to compensate ny being clever and can even do a crossover with Wonder Woman. Kind of reminds me of Faust teaming up with Hades in JLU.

 

The broken clock strikes the right time. Can't believe I'm going to leave a like on a Vaerminapost.