57: Interlude: PR's IRC - Topic: Brockton Bay Strategy (4/18/2011)
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Me as a reader: PHO interludes are fun, but kinda generic. When I write my own fic, I'm gonna do something more interesting!
Me as a Writer: Every other chapter takes 3-6 drafts, but this one took 18+. PHO interludes, and their cousin IRC chats can die in a fire!
This and the next chapter are a Worm-ified version of something from one of my favorite fic series:
Time To Carry The Colors Again by: Dont_call_me_Carrie, where we get to see character's perspectives changing in real time, and without needing to be told or get a random POV from inside their head, but instead by following a chain of emails between known, semi-known, and present but previously unmentioned characters discussing current events.
Chapter Explanation:
Chapter Explanation
But seriously, as cool as this chapter was, it's been rewritten repeatedly so that I could get things like the different character's perspectives, opinions, references, and the rest consistent while managing the chaotic but focused feeling of an IRC full of grown-up theater kids working on a group project. (If you look, you'll find a few of them saying without saying who their focus is on for PR and which capes get the general effort rather than a specific handler.) Plus, all that's not to mention the bizarrely annoying process of getting the timing worked out so that it becomes clear this is a conversation going on in the background throughout the day, not just the notes of some board meeting or a snippet from a 1-hour time period on a forum.
Still, as much work as it was, I'll probably end up doing it again at some point, if only because of how much I like it when fics show the reactions of background characters through texts, emails, and the like, rather than the safe but boring Interlude POV. PHO interludes in the Worm fandom CAN do this, but are often just rehashing known events from a slightly different perspective. That said, when they're done well, a PHO interlude can be very helpful by taking a step back from the omniscient viewpoint lots of authors like to use.
Me as a Writer: Every other chapter takes 3-6 drafts, but this one took 18+. PHO interludes, and their cousin IRC chats can die in a fire!
This and the next chapter are a Worm-ified version of something from one of my favorite fic series:
Time To Carry The Colors Again by: Dont_call_me_Carrie, where we get to see character's perspectives changing in real time, and without needing to be told or get a random POV from inside their head, but instead by following a chain of emails between known, semi-known, and present but previously unmentioned characters discussing current events.
Chapter Explanation:
Chapter Explanation
But seriously, as cool as this chapter was, it's been rewritten repeatedly so that I could get things like the different character's perspectives, opinions, references, and the rest consistent while managing the chaotic but focused feeling of an IRC full of grown-up theater kids working on a group project. (If you look, you'll find a few of them saying without saying who their focus is on for PR and which capes get the general effort rather than a specific handler.) Plus, all that's not to mention the bizarrely annoying process of getting the timing worked out so that it becomes clear this is a conversation going on in the background throughout the day, not just the notes of some board meeting or a snippet from a 1-hour time period on a forum.
Still, as much work as it was, I'll probably end up doing it again at some point, if only because of how much I like it when fics show the reactions of background characters through texts, emails, and the like, rather than the safe but boring Interlude POV. PHO interludes in the Worm fandom CAN do this, but are often just rehashing known events from a slightly different perspective. That said, when they're done well, a PHO interlude can be very helpful by taking a step back from the omniscient viewpoint lots of authors like to use.
Monday, May 18
(Log opened Mon May 18 07:12:03 2011)
[07:12] SpinDoctor >> Morning, crew. Bay check-in. Reminder: last weekend's Hero appearance wasn't the show, it was just the overture. We're orchestrating a season, not a single aria.
[07:14] StageWhisper >> Ah, music to my ears. But let's be real: our "ensemble" often looks like a high school dress rehearsal. Armsmaster is the understudy who never blinks, Aegis is the chorus member who keeps tripping on the stairs.
[07:15] AdCopyCrash >> Relatable, but tragic. He's like a Buster Keaton gag stretched over twenty minutes, only with a bigger medical bill.
[07:16] AdCopyCrash >> Still, people find the Pratfalling Captain relatable. Like watching a tragicomedy with one really tall, armored extra.
[07:35] SpinDoctor >> Upper brass is aware. Relatability is a commodity, but so is gravitas. We need both. Hero and Phoenix gave us a peak at the extremes: charisma meets spectacle.
[07:43] PR_Paladin >> Shadow Stalker? Not present at weekend, but worth noting. Brooding presence, great for action reels, terrible for small crowds. The contrast with Aegis is telling.
[07:44] Khaleesi >> Shadow Stalker may excel in reels, but never for interactive PR. Audience engagement is an art, and not every cape can hold it.
[07:46] Jester >> Agreed. Engagement = performance. Humor, charm, gravitas, spectacle. Each hero brings a note; Phoenix and Hero hit chords rare for the city.
[07:48] Khaleesi >> Contrast is important. Phoenix rises silent, myth incarnate, the Platonic ideal. A goddess costume doesn't say *trick or treat* it says mysterious and regal. Meanwhile Shadow Stalker, grim, dour, ethically murky, looks like a child sneaking into a Hamlet audition.
[07:50] Jester >> Please, Hamlet at least had existential charisma. Shadow Stalker's brand is "Did someone spill ink on the film reel?"
[08:02] StageWhisper >> True, but some of those kids do have the spark. Vista, for instance. Quiet, understated, actually commands the camera when given room.
[08:04] Khaleesi >> Introverted, yes. Quiet, not so much. But still useful. Can fill B-roll slots without stealing the frame. And that's what matters for some pieces of the narrative.
[08:09] Jester >> Speaking of extremes, Clockblocker. Limited airtime only. Otherwise chaos incarnate.
[08:11] Khaleesi >> Precisely. He's comedic garnish, not the main course. Same goes for Miss Militia - competent, reliable, smile glued on too tight. Background reinforcement.
[08:12] AdCopyCrash >> Clockblocker IS B-roll. He's Harold Lloyd dangling off a clock face. You give him three minutes of screen time, max, then shove him off before he eats the set.
[08:14] StageWhisper >> And yet audiences like him. A spoonful of sugar. Even Brecht knew the value of a song-and-dance between lectures.
[08:16] Khaleesi >> Sugar rots the teeth. Phoenix is ambrosia, eternal. Clockblocker is a custard pie hurled at our credibility.
[08:26] Jester >> But the pie makes the newsprint. Don't underestimate a custard pie.
[08:34] Khaleesi >> Humor is seasonal garnish, gravitas is core. Like icing on a cake that's already structurally sound.
[8:39] StageWhisper >> He's Robin Williams trapped in *Dead Poets Society*, but detention instead of poetry.
[8:47] TrueNorth >> Don't pair him with Phoenix. Comedy plus sainthood is oil and vinegar.
[8:48] Khaleesi >> It's worse: oil and Euripides.
[8:49] AdCopyCrash >> That's the nerdiest slam I've heard all week, and I sit in advertising postmortems.
[08:51] SpinDoctor >> Stay on track. Weekend spectacle: Hero + Phoenix. Weekday grind: Dauntless, Gallant, Vista, others.
[09:08] StageWhisper >> Armsmaster and Dauntless remain interesting dichotomy. Armsmaster = legend, legacy, stiff as a board. Dauntless = credible, grounded, approachable. Both necessary, but only one wins public affection.
[09:16] TrueNorth >> Gallant and Glory Girl? Their dynamic is a textbook PR goldmine, like a better Assault and Battery, even if Glory Girl isn't a Ward yet. Thinker projections indicate she'll join this year, before she's nineteen. Preparations underway.
[09:20] AdCopyCrash >> I remain skeptical. Glory Girl isn't Wards, and until she is, any PR reliance on her is precarious.
[09:26] SpinDoctor >> Agreed, caution applies. We cultivate awareness, not dependence. Phoenix remains the national-longterm mythos, but others form the scaffolding: Gallant, Dauntless, Vista, Clockblocker.
[10:12] PR_Paladin >> Even the ones absent can't be ignored. Battery? Velocity? Assault? Still appear in campaigns. Their PR aura is "underwhelming but dependable."
[10:14] TrueNorth >> Reliability is underrated. Dauntless might not sparkle like Phoenix, but he reads like Atticus Finch in armor. Grounded. Credible. People trust that.
[10:18] ChorusLine >> And yet you'd never sell tickets on Finch alone. Phoenix fills the balcony, Gallant + Glory Girl give you the swoon, Dauntless does the matinee. That's balance.
[10:20] SpinDoctor >> Reminder: balance = point. We can't headline Phoenix every week, we'd burn out the spectacle. Need scaffolding: Gallant, Vista, Clockblocker. Support roles, B-roll.
[10:41] ChorusLine >> Can we talk about Vista? Thirteen years old, understated gravitas. She's like putting Julie Andrews in the background of a car commercial. Subtle, yet the audience leans in.
[10:43] AdCopyCrash >> Andrews? Please, she's Shirley Temple in a trench coat. Cute, but the moment she speaks it gets awkward.
[10:47] StageWhisper >> No, no. You underestimate the "quiet presence." PR isn't just lines spoken, it's camera magnetism. Vista can do more with silence than Kid Win can with a teleprompter.
[10:52] TrueNorth >> Kid Win can't even *look* at the teleprompter without turning crimson. He's a liability.
[10:55] Khaleesi >> He's a cautionary tale. Proof that not everyone belongs on stage. Put him behind a curtain, let him tinker, and keep the spotlight for those who can use it.
[10:59] Jester >> So, the Muppets principle: some are Kermits, some are Fozzies, some stay in the pit playing trombone.
[11:11] ChorusLine >> Speaking of pit players: Assault and Battery. Dependable, flat, safe. They're like the brass section, loud, steady, not very photogenic.
[11:14] AdCopyCrash >> Or like backup dancers in West Side Story. Necessary, but you don't remember their faces after curtain.
[11:17] StageWhisper >> Except when one of them trips. Then you remember.
[11:40] Khaleesi >> And then the narrative collapses. Which is why we need Phoenix's myth to anchor it. Hero is the archetype of power, Phoenix is the archetype of transcendence. All else is scaffolding.
[11:44] TrueNorth >> Myth is fine, but myth doesn't smile at children in a hospital ward. That's Dauntless's role.
[11:48] AdCopyCrash >> Hospitals are fine, but they don't trend. Spectacle trends. Grim jokes trend. If you want week-to-week engagement, you ride humor and shock. If you want enduring respect, you ride myth.
[11:52] Jester >> And if you want Broadway longevity, you pray for both. Rodgers had Hammerstein, after all.
[11:55] ChorusLine >> Hero and Phoenix, then? The Rodgers and Hammerstein of cape PR?
[11:59] StageWhisper >> Careful. One wrote the words, one the music. Hero and Phoenix aren't collaborating, that was a one-off.
[12:02] SpinDoctor >> Which is precisely why we manage the ensemble. Narrative isn't about truth, it's about harmony.
[12:04] AdCopyCrash >> Harmony? More like cacophony. Armsmaster enters and the orchestra drops into twelve-tone. Kid Win sneezes on the cymbals.
[12:07] Jester >> And Shadow Stalker insists on playing the funeral march in 4/4 at every cue.
[12:25] Khaleesi >> Exactly. The audience wants inspiration, not nihilism. A myth, not a morgue. Phoenix proves what's possible. Shadow Stalker reminds them of everything ugly.
[12:27] TrueNorth >> Ugly sells too, in doses. You need your antiheroes. Bogart, Brando, Dean, they all brooded.
[12:30] Khaleesi >> And yet Bogart had wit, Brando had magnetism, Dean had tragedy. Shadow Stalker has none of the above. She's grimdark without gravitas.
[12:32] StageWhisper >> She's *Our Town* performed entirely in shadows, no cast. A concept, not a character.
[12:34] Jester >> Or like Beckett without the wit. Waiting for Godot, except nobody's laughing.
[12:36] SpinDoctor >> Tangent alert. Reel back.
[13:34] TrueNorth >> Let's not forget PR strategy extends beyond appearances. Parent interactions, staff engagement, local media, each counts.
[13:37] Khaleesi >> Exactly. We can't turn a mute 11-year-old into a city spokesperson, even with Phoenix's spectacle, she's for national-longterm impact, not local omnipresence.
[13:41] AdCopyCrash >> So how do we handle weekend spectacle versus weekday grounding?
[13:45] SpinDoctor >> Weekend = high-concept demonstration (e.g. Hero + Phoenix). Weekday = scaffold the ecosystem. B-roll, minor appearances, controlled interviews. Maintain narrative without burning heroes out.
[13:49] StageWhisper >> And PR messaging? Should we emphasize individual hero shine or coordinated ensemble?
[13:52] SpinDoctor >> Ensemble always, headline selectively. Solo headlines = Phoenix or Dauntless. Others = contextual reinforcement. The lesson from April 16–17: spectacle is great, but cannot be sole messaging.
[14:12] PR_Paladin >> Do we need contingency messaging? If someone refuses theme, audience sees dissonance. Armsmaster's stiff, Kid Win awkward, Miss Militia over-cheery - audience notices.
[14:14] SpinDoctor >> Yes. Frame absences and dissonance. Public sees Hero/Phoenix as extraordinary, the rest as supporting cast - intentional, not accidental. Now enough bickering, strategy?
[14:18] ChorusLine >> Fine, strategy:
Phoenix = divine spectacle.
Dauntless = trust anchor.
Gallant + Glory Girl = teen romcom spinoff.
Vista = grounded presence.
Clockblocker = comedy relief.
Armsmaster = stiff legacy.
Kid Win = backstage techie.
Shadow Stalker = action reel only.
[14:21] TrueNorth >> Add Miss Militia as symbolic backbone. She's practically the flag with legs.
[14:23] AdCopyCrash >> A flag that tries too hard to smile. She's a theme park mascot, not a star.
[14:25] StageWhisper >> Still, mascots have their uses as every sports team could tell you.
[14:27] Khaleesi >> Mascots sell fantasy. Phoenix *is* fantasy. Why settle for a mascot when you can have a myth?
[14:29] Jester >> Because not everyone lives on Olympus. Some people just want a balloon animal at the county fair.
[14:41] SpinDoctor >> Enough balloon animals. Provisional scaffold:
- Phoenix = national myth.
- Dauntless = local trust.
- Gallant (+/- Glory Girl) = synergistic youth appeal.
- Vista = grounded presence with gravitas.
- Clockblocker = garnish/adornment.
- Armsmaster + Miss Militia = legacy symbols.
- Battery, Velocity, Assault = dependable filler.
- Kid Win = backstage only.
- Shadow Stalker = limited to action reels.
[14:58] StageWhisper >> Curtain call?
[15:17] SpinDoctor >> Curtain call. Notes drafted, sarcasm omitted for upstairs version. End scene.
(Log closed Mon May 18 18:17:58 2011)
1. Do you like this alternative, or would you prefer the more traditional Interlude/POV? (In this case, probably Glenn's POV on this discussion.)
2. Do you prefer the Public Forum (Like Para-Humans Online) or Private communication style (IRC or Emails) of this kind of interludes?
3. Are there any reactions you'd want to see for a future interlude? (I could do any other POV if people are interested, but have mostly stuck to the Bay since that's what 99.9% of this fandom seems to want. Or if you want more of the Bay, is there someone whose POV/IRC/Emails you'd like from here?)
2. Do you prefer the Public Forum (Like Para-Humans Online) or Private communication style (IRC or Emails) of this kind of interludes?
3. Are there any reactions you'd want to see for a future interlude? (I could do any other POV if people are interested, but have mostly stuck to the Bay since that's what 99.9% of this fandom seems to want. Or if you want more of the Bay, is there someone whose POV/IRC/Emails you'd like from here?)
