Goofy Wrath

[ilbgar]

I like the worldbuilding of A Father's Wrath. I find Heaven's leadership abominable to the point I'm rooting for the ostensible villains anyway.

Apparently, the Lord X equivalent of the Hazbinverse, Lady C, agrees with me. So, partially to take Heaven down a peg, and partially to preserve a universe that will flame out on it's own, she elects to merge A Father's Wrath... with Goofy Ahhh of Sprites. As well as elements of War of Sprites, Battle of Sprites, Super All-Star Bros, and Super Smash Bros Z. 16 planets merged into one in total. Shiver Star and the Forgotten Lands, Mario and Sonic Earths, Goku's Earth, One Piece Earth, Jojo's Bizarre Adventure Earth, Marvel Earth, Freedom Planet Avalice, Fairy Tale Earth, Yugioh Earth, Jujutsu Kaisen Earth, Chrono Trigger Earth, Megaman Earth(Zero/Star Force Era), and Hazbin Earth. 15 franchises.


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One of the reasons is that GAoS doesn't give the slightest of damns about how stupid you act, which should inoculate the hybrid against, say, further damage to Uriel's Sephirot from doing something sufficiently stupid. It's also not going to break down if someone breaks a fundamental law, so something applies to Stability. And so on.

I should stress that C doesn't hate the Archangels or God or consider them evil. She just thinks they're stupid and self-righteous. If she hated them, she wouldn't be bothering with this rigmarole. She'd have just eaten them. She had to be talked down from doing that to Darkseid the last time she visited DC, as it technically qualifies as sealing them, rather than killing them, meaning you wouldn't get the usual problems killing them would cause. Which is not to say that there would be no problems whatsoever, but it's generally far superior to letting them run around causing trouble.

It should be noted that I'm working with someone on a much messier take, where Lady C's efforts end up drawing in a lot more than she planned on. Goofier Wrath. Because she isn't infallible. But she doesn't claim to be.

 

[Rasklw89#qdf]

So, how is this story going to play out?

 

[ilbgar]

So, how is this story going to play out?

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Well, first we have the big exposition chapter, then a chapter where some of the immediate consequences play out, then a bit more exposition, before we get to some mindless fighting.

 

[Rasklw89#qdf]

first we have the big exposition chapter

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About that, maybe it's just me, but I feel like a big exposition would be detrimental to the story.

Maybe like use a more show, don't tell approach to the exposition?

As for the immediate consequences, what do you have in mind?

 

[Determined-OverLord]

About that, maybe it's just me, but I feel like a big exposition would be detrimental to the story.

Maybe like use a more show, don't tell approach to the exposition?

As for the immediate consequences, what do you have in mind?

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We're working on it. As for consequences, well I'm helping with that by making a list of all the universes that actually joined this mess, and by extension all the upcoming threats of each series, including a couple of formerly deceased antagonists that came back to life.

And that's just on the Present Timeline as Silver's Future…yeah, let's just say it makes Canon Goku Black look like a walk through the park to say the least…

Also Ilgbar, you forgot Battle of Sprites, Super Mario Bros Z and Super All Stars Bros.

GOOD LUCK!

 

[ilbgar]

About that, maybe it's just me, but I feel like a big exposition would be detrimental to the story.

Maybe like use a more show, don't tell approach to the exposition?

As for the immediate consequences, what do you have in mind?

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Just as an example, Silver's Bad Future had a Hedgehog Triumvirate of Seelkadoom, Nazo, and Mecha Sonic, who were essentially rulers of the universe and hunted the survivors for sport. Current Seelkadoom is strong enough that Sonic would need to be Hyper to have a chance against his Base form, and he gets much stronger in the future.

 

[Rasklw89#qdf]

Hm, maybe you should made an Informational containing all the relevance piece of info that is needed to know about the world that is crossing over?

And maybe just use a summary version, with maybe some link to some wiki.

Also, what are the characterization of the major character here?

 

[ilbgar]

Hm, maybe you should made an Informational containing all the relevance piece of info that is needed to know about the world that is crossing over?

And maybe just use a summary version, with maybe some link to some wiki.

Also, what are the characterization of the major character here?

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Been considering it.

Considering the Archangels are supposed to be wonderful beings who guide and guard Creation, I'm putting down a lot of their behavior to their damaged Sephirot. I'd compare it to brain damage, but I don't think that gets across the magnitude of the issue. Not just talking to Emily about their worries, for example. Sera and Gabriel are some of the least damaged, hence Sera being the least bad of the Archangels.

Emily is told upfront by C that the Archangels were plotting to potentially kill her if they thought she was too much like Lucifer. This causes her to essentially revert to the rebellious phase she fell into after hearing about WWII, including spray-painting her wings black in open defiance. Sera is displeased with them, to say the least.

Charlie learning this, as well as being told about Seth effectively parading her corpse in front of Lilith to make her get sloppy(and turning Lucifer into mashed potatoes) wipes out her trust of Heaven's judgement, and, enraged, she burns Metatron's book. C prevents things from escalating further before she's finished with her announcements.

Vaggie is about the same as she was in Canon and AFW. She's Michael's Feather, and a Fallen Exorcist. As she did not have a Sephirot/Concept, this has actually strengthened her. Hence her fighting on par with Lute in Canon, though they're a close enough match that a sudden ambush can easily turn things around for Lute, as seen in both Canon and AFW. As Feathers are, in my book, emergency holders for the Sephirot, an unfallen Feather's ultimate potential is about where Charlie is sitting at the story's beginning, which is to say, where Lucifer would be if he hadn't gotten demonic power as a consolation prize after Falling and getting Progress ripped out.

An Angel's power is set upon their creation. Emily will equal her fellows if she takes up Progress and trains up to become skilled in it's use, but cannot rise beyond that, in part because the Sephirot are too damaged for the foundation to be built up enough for unchecked Progress. At least in normal AFW. Between the far more flexible Goofy universe and the fact that Kirby healing Lucifer is going to spit out a second Progress from the remnants within him(copying concepts is kind of Kirby's whole thing) things are going to change. Especially since Kirby's likely to fix the Sephirot on principle if he encounters the other Archangels, because that's just who he is.

Nephilim, having a combination of humanity's limitless potential and high base power and immortality of an Angel, do not have a cap. In theory, they can achieve as much or greater power than God. He had a problem with them for a good reason. Similarly blasphemous beings like Cambion(human-demon) and Nephalem(angel-demon) also lack caps. Charlie is technically all three. She's a bit like Frieza in the sense that a being who hasn't trained a day in her life really shouldn't have the kind of power to even come close to a Fallen Archangel like her father.

Nephilim-Nephalem being her version of Golden, while Cambion-Nephilim-Nephalem is her version of Black Frieza. The former is enough to make her weaker than an Adam going all out with his powers to the point he gets subsumed by his divine essence(like almost happened when the merger was completed) but not by much. The latter turns it into a curbstomp in her favor, worse than what he dealt to the Sins.

 

[ilbgar]

This system uses exponential scaling. X2 in a biggatons sense(Ie, Kaioken X2) is a 10% increase. X128 amounts to doubling your 'powerlevel' on this scale. This Informational will give some context. It should be noted that higher numbers do not always equate to a win. Eggman was categorically incapable of harming Super Sonic directly in Sonic Unleashed, but still managed to trap the latter and drain his energy. As a general rule, one must be within an order of magnitude to harm a being, unless special circumstances are in play like aforementioned energy draining device. Something similar applies to Enerjak Vs Super Sonic in Archie.

This means that 'unbreakable' items are often merely possessed of durability beyond the ability of anything known in the setting to harm it. Cavemen would likely consider the Sun indestructible yes?

City: 3500.
Moon: 35,000.
Planet: 350,000.
Sun: 3,500,000.
Solar System: 20,000,000.
Galaxy: 5,000,000,000.
Universe: 90,000,000,000,000.
Multiverse: 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.
Chaos Emeralds(highest known feat): 1,100,000,000,000,000,000,000.
Super Chaos Emeralds(highest feat): 110,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.

Base/Heavily Suppressed Lady C: 20,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.

Humans: 5-40.
Sinners: 50-400.
Overlords: 1600-6400.
Goetia: 444,444.
Sins: 4,444,444.
Lilith(Full Contract Stock): 5,675,567.
Base Lilith: 567,567.
Lucifer: 6,666,666.
Base/Heavily Suppressed Charlie: 60,000.
Demon Princess Magical Girl/Partially Suppressed: 600,000.
Fully Unleashed Charlie: 6,000,000.
Nephilim-Nephalem Charlie: 1,800,000,000.
Cambion-Nephilim-Nephalem Charlie: 36,000,000,000.
Roo(Heavily Degraded/Partially Sealed): 16,666,666.
Roo(Heavily Degraded): 1,666,666,666.
Roo(Complete): 16,666,666,666,666.

Winners: 100-800.
Average Exorcist: 8,888.
Lute/Vaggie: 10,000.
Seth: 700,000.
Seth(Alive): 7,000,000. He scored a mutual kill on Roo, but a) he had Cain's help and special equipment like the Conceptual Severing blade, and b) she wasn't exactly... sane, and she wanted to eat him, not obliterate him. It's like he was Batman in a Kryptonite suit up against Superman. The fact that he scored a mutual-kill is impressive, but there were about a million things working in his favor.
Adam(HH): 600,000.
RoR Adam: 1,400,000.
Merged Adam: 10,000,000.
Fully Fused Adam: 20,000,000.
Demiurge Essence: 250,000,000. He is capable of drawing on some of the powers of his Concepts without surrendering his human heart to his divine essence.
Demiurge Adam: 2,000,000,000. Technically his minimum, but the Demiurge is not human enough to truly train with the intent to surpass his limits.
Base Emily: 5,000,000.
Archangels: 7,777,777.
Michael: 8,888,888. Weaker than 2 Concepts ought to make her due to her poor compatibility with Progress and the inherent conflict.
Jesus: 50,000,000,000,000.
AFW God: 100,000,000,000,000.

Composite Sonic: 7,758.
Composite Super Sonic(Adventure Era): 776,000.
Composite Super Sonic(Frontiers Era): 1,552,000.
Composite Cyber Super Sonic: 15,520,000.
Composite Hyper Sonic(Adventure Era): 77,600,000.
Composite Hyper Sonic(Frontiers Era): 155,200,000.
Composite Cyber Hyper Sonic: 1,552,000,000.

Base Enerjak: 56,000,000. This is if he's fresh, but with zero understanding of how his powers work.
Mastered Enerjak: 775,200,000,000.

Sage: 800,000.

The End: 7,777,777. Akin to Azrael, but as a... thing that existed before it's universe.

Mecha Sonic: 13,320. Base will increase over time as he acquires more Biodata. No known upper limit.
Semi-Super Mecha Sonic: 133,200.
Super Mecha Sonic: 1,332,000.
Hyper Mecha Sonic: 133,200,000. Currently a death sentence, as he lacks the ability to use this form without burning out his systems. Biodata from more Super forms/Chaotic beings will resolve this quickly. Large numbers of normal beings can also resolve this on the back of sheer durability.
Metallix: 13,320,000,000. A meta-stable form. Can be acquired in several ways, but the best-known is to simply take all 7 Chaos Emeralds into himself and evolve. They are not required to maintain the form once this evolution has occurred.

Nazo: 430,500. Able to fight 2 Super forms or a Base Fusion and hold his own. As a being of Negative Chaos Energy, can absorb unlimited quantities of Negative Chaos Energy, and may be capable of tapping other negative energies, but unable to make use of Positive Energy. Indeed, he can only be defeated by Positive Energy, as otherwise, his nature as an energy being makes physical damage at most an momentary inconvenience.
Super Nazo: 43,500,000.
Perfect Nazo: 12,959,000,000.
Hyper Perfect Nazo: 15,120,000,000. Technically just an augmented form.
Chaos Nazo: 54,159,990,000. An immense infusion of energy from the Master Emerald, but something he would normally only do in desperation.

Seelkadoom(Suppressed): 41,700,000.
Seelkadoom: 117,000,000. Immensely powerful, but his power raises many questions. He is not a fusion of Sonic and Shadow, but a hybrid clone infused with Negative Chaos Energy. How did he achieve such power....?

This is a bare layout and should be updated as time passes.

 

[Determined-OverLord]

Looks good so far but here's a couple of suggestions-fixes:
-Seth was confirmed by A Father Wrath's Author to actually be stronger than Adam so his PL should be something like 700,000, and 7,000,000 when Alive.

-Honestly I'd add Perfect Nazo and Hyper Perfect Nazo's PL given how the former was capable of curbstomping Super Sonic and Super Shadow then even keep up with Hyper Shadic while the latter was strong enough that Shadic required the power of all Rings in the world, many held and supported by all sorts of people offering their own life force ala Genkidama, and even the likes of Super Tails and Hyper Knuckles to briefly stump before Shadic went beyond and actually extracted all negative energy then blasted away Nazo.

-Speaking of which, while there's a set Base Power those that use the power of Chaos, whenever through Emeralds or other methods, can potential get higher power levels and push themselves past their usual limits if needed albeit that could increase the cost of the transformation they'd be using.

GOOD LUCK!

 

[cep]

while I won't read this (in addition to me disliking lady C, I don't vibe with massive multi crossover fics in general) I wanted to wish you good luck with it regardless