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(Partially) fixing the tag system

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Lurk_Under_Night said:
I think we need to look at tag grouping/aliasing as a solution. Consider futa tags. Futa and futanari are the same thing and can be merged. But futa on female is clearly different and cannot be merged. the problem is, someone searching for futa stories would consider futa on female as something they might be searching for.

Simply put, futa on female is a subset of the futa set. So searches for futa should contain futa on female. However, the reverse is not true, searches for futa on female should only contain futa if and only if futa on female is also included.

If we consider tagging from a set based perspective you can suddenly resolve quite a few issues. For example, si/oc is the full set of si and oc tagging. Someone can search for each seperately or together.
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What you're talking about is the same as the Parent/Child tag functionality that QQ doesn't currently possess. SB has it, but it's an add-on, not core XF functionality, and QQ doesn't purchase that add-on.
 
Ashali said:
Thanks for taking up the cause of merging tags! It has started to become a bit of a difficulty when using the search.

As for comments...

I would like to gently-to-moderately push against merging the general "self insert" with "si/oc" stuff. It's a pet peeve of mine, but the "original character insert" that is the latter, is very often not the author's "self." They are often very distinct kinds of stories from actual self insert stories, and wanting to read one of those genres doesn't necessarily include the other.

Basically, they're adjacent genres, but not the same, and so I would advocate for the idea that they probably should be separate.
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There's also a tag of selfinsert (no dash, no space) floating around. This could also be merged with the tags, 'transmigration' and 'isekai'. Isekai in general might be a good umbrella term.
 
Darkarma said:
There's also a tag of selfinsert (no dash, no space) floating around. This could also be merged with the tags, 'transmigration' and 'isekai'. Isekai in general might be a good umbrella term.
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Selfinsert should be merged with the SI tar, yes, but not so much the other to. Isekai and transmigration are two different things however, while transmigration is a common method for self-insertion, it's not exclusive to self-insertion, and is actually a fairly common trick in a lot of Xianxia for the powerful expert types to be able to (after losing their bodies) either take over a new body, or reincarnate with at least part of their memories intact. On the contrary, isekai can be through transmigration, transportation or some other means to send someone (SI or otherwise) to another world (which is what Isekai means in the first place). So, yeah, those three tags should stay seperate, not because they're mutually exclusive, but because they're informative.
 
'selfinsert' was already merged into 'self-insert', to be clear. It was part of the list.

There used to be 461 threads with 'self-insert' tagged. 'self insert' was actually the more popular variation, with 3,013 threads tagged. Now 'self-insert' has 3,670 threads tagged, and I'll add another 111 to the search results after Synonymising 'partial-self insert' with it.

Edit: Looking at the tag cloud in advanced search, it seems to be the most common tag on the forum right now.
 
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Is it possible to have two tagging systems? Like one to sort what the author tagged it as and what users tagged it as?
 
tacobowl8 said:
Regardless of feasibility, the staff will not be allowing users to tag threads belonging to other people.
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Aww, that means I won't be able to tag every single story as either one I like or one I don't like.


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Putting it in writing like that, it makes it clear why you have chosen this path.
 
lurkingkraken said:
Aww, that means I won't be able to tag every single story as either one I like or one I don't like.


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Putting it in writing like that, it makes it clear why you have chosen this path.
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I mean, technically you can already 'tag' stories in such a way, using purely the bookmark functionality on QQ, there's just not a way of sharing or comparing that with other users (aside from making a thread to post about it). Just make the OP of a thread a QQ bookmark, and include a score in the label.
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lurkingkraken said:
Aww, that means I won't be able to tag every single story as either one I like or one I don't like.


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Putting it in writing like that, it makes it clear why you have chosen this path.
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Yeah, I was going to comment on why it was a bad idea, but you figured it out. That becomes a very easy way for people to harrass others. But as LurkinInTheDeceit said, you can always just bookmark a specific post (probably the first one is easiest) and tag it there as a remind like "This story starts to suck after chapter 3", so that you'll see it pretty much right away when you open the first page.
 
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