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The Once and Future Champion (Baldur's Gate 3/Dragon Age)

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cliffc999 said:
To be fair, Balduran's murderer is the illithid that originally shoved a tadpole in his eye. The Emperor is Balduran's identity thief.
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Fair point.

aabbcc said:
The tadpole that eventually ate out Balduran in the unfun way and became the Emperor is as much at fault for the murder.
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Huh. Philosophical question- do individual Illithids have free will?

And if so, how much thought/maturity does an Illithid tadpole? Can it choose not to eat the brain it's in?
 
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One problem I had with Baldur's gate 3 was how they delt with Viconia, I hope you can improve on it. That said I'm enjoying the story a lot.

Edit:I found you have already addressed this.

cliffc999 said:
Yes and no. They certainly can, as the Emperor himself proves, but most of them are enslaved by elder brains and never have a chance to break free.
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I think Omeluum is a better example. It's an example that it's not only possible for a mind flayer to break free, but that it's possible for one to not be a complete and total dick.
 
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Daeth said:
One problem I had with Baldur's gate 3 was how they delt with Viconia, I hope you can improve on it.
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First off, I had no real objection to Viconia's portrayal in BG3 so I feel no need to devote any effort to rewriting it.

Second off, Viconia's went-back-to-the-Dark-Side characterization in 5e continuity was done at the editorial insistence of WotC, and dates back to 5e content published before BG3 was even released, so I'm annoyed at how many people keep blaming Larian for something that wasn't even their fault.
 
Ugh, I have a toothache. Had it for the past couple days but it's getting worse. Dentist's appointment is Tuesday, but it's kinda distracting me so updates will slow down even more.

What a lovely present for the new year.
 
cliffc999 said:
First off, I had no real objection to Viconia's portrayal in BG3 so I feel no need to devote any effort to rewriting it.

Second off, Viconia's went-back-to-the-Dark-Side characterization in 5e continuity was done at the editorial insistence of WotC, and dates back to 5e content published before BG3 was even released, so I'm annoyed at how many people keep blaming Larian for something that wasn't even their fault.
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Ah yes, sad clown Xzar.

It's still amazing that WotC decided that the insane homicidal necromancer needed to be prettied up.

BigBad said:
Counterpoint: The Dead Three are extremely stupid, uncreative, and predictable. They are losers at heart. Their cleverness would be no obstacle at all to an elder brain.
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Bane engineered his own resurrection under his own power using his son as a catspaw that fooled the entire pantheon, projected the image of his resurrection across Faerun to gain a new portfolio and propelled himself from possessing a middling lesser power to becoming one of the most powerful of the greater gods of evil and retructured his church to remove all forms of stupid evil. He is legitimately brilliant; it was only 5e where his downturn began.

Myrkul's spirit laughed off his death and enjoyed his freedom from divinity, possessed a broken crown to turn it into an artifact of necromantic power, and has been possessing helpless sods and turning them into undead commanders. Taking Mask of the Betrayer into account, he ensured that his memory would live on eternally via the Spirit Eater and unlike everyone else, was content with his slow fading and accepted his death.

5e may have turned them into jokes, but Myrkul pretty much peaced out and Bane came back bigger and better in previous editions.
 
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Mizu said:
What's the more common romance target, Karlach? Gale? I'm doubtful about Lae'zel but I suppose it's possible.
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Like the other guy said, it's Astarion and by a lot.

It's not really related to the number of player who play the game, it's about the fraction who write stories. For whatever reason people who like astarion are more likely to write about it.

I've seen a couple Shadowheart ones but very few that I would actually consider reading and none that match this on in quality.
 
DeadlySoren said:
Like the other guy said, it's Astarion and by a lot.

It's not really related to the number of player who play the game, it's about the fraction who write stories. For whatever reason people who like astarion are more likely to write about it.

I've seen a couple Shadowheart ones but very few that I would actually consider reading and none that match this on in quality.
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The game audience is not the same audience as the audience who would write fanfic, as well as the audience who would write fanfic about romance as a main focus.

The game audience is largely male. Fic writers are largely female. I'm sure there are plenty of women who enjoy Karlach or Shadowheart's romance, but Astarion girlies are far stronger in their native element - slash fic with a canon bisexual character.
 
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