Jade Isentry
Unshakable
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Ha. Now I'm going to have to start that when I read Ack's next installment.So Skidmark against Taylor and Now lung is about to burst in.
So I guess it's time to cue up yakety sax?
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Ha. Now I'm going to have to start that when I read Ack's next installment.So Skidmark against Taylor and Now lung is about to burst in.
So I guess it's time to cue up yakety sax?
No, no, that's what you listen to when you read It Gets Worse.Ha. Now I'm going to have to start that when I read Ack's next installment.
Oh my word. So true on both counts.No, no, that's what you listen to when you read It Gets Worse.
For Slippery Slope, I recommend this song.
On the whole fic, taylor feels ooc, or at least dumber than she is in canon and dumber than youve written her before
Taylor got sucked in wayyyyy too fast, i get she was in vulnerable position but weve seen how smart and driven and sure of her values she is but it takes two conversations to get her to start thinking racist things and saying them
its out of character, and racists have much sneakier recruitment pitches with way more dog whistles, maybe peter just didnt know the classic arguments and had to make do but seriously he didnt say enough to really convince anyone before taylor is all "maybe he IS right?"
racist arguments can be sneaky and appealing and it is easy for people to be convinced by them, but peter didnt actually use any of the ones that convince people, it barely took anything for taylor to take that first step and thats just weird for her
peter wasnt convincing enough to justify how fast taylor got sucked in, hes no jack slash, even kaiser in canon is more smooth and convincing and hes an ass
It's cult indoctrination, basically. Except in this case, they didn't have to cut her off from other positive social interactions, she had none. She was thus supremely vulnerable to anyone willing to act as a sympathetic peer group. In canon, that was the Undersiders.There are two conversations which I put up there. More happened that I didn't cover. There is also a certain amount of passage of time.
Taylor was being totally ostracised by the people who should've been her peer group. Once Peter got her acceptance, he just sat and talked. He gave her companionship, friendship and (once she accepted the help of the Empire) a respite from the bullying, without demanding anything in return. At the beginning, he was just ... there. Not after anything, not pushing for membership. Just a friend. And she really, really needed friendship from someone. (Note that in canon, she not only accepted friendship from actual criminals, two days later she was robbing a bank with them).
What really pushed her over the edge was the fact that it was Sophia (a black girl) and the ABB (an Asian organisation) who had it in for her. It would take a saint not to at least consider thinking racist things in that situation and Taylor's not a saint.
Even now, at the latest point of the story, Taylor doesn't hate other races. She's just really open to the idea that some members of them are less.
You will notice that she turned down the first offer to come to a gathering. She was still unsure, then. The second one that she showed up to, so did Peter's ex. That could've gone badly, but with assistance from Othala and the chance to actually punish a bully, it actually cemented her further into the group.
One thing I'm confused about here - it seems as though Peter has triggered in this chapter, but Panacea told us in chapter 17 that Peter had no corona pollentia. Am I misunderstanding what happened?
The Slippery Slope
[A/N 2: Warning: Empire character dialogue may contain racist terms and views. These views are not shared by the author.]
Ah, excellent! Finally, after a multi-year wait, the promised Ack-brand clusterfuck (accept no substitutes) has come to pass! It's everything I ever dreamed of!
First, I'm very happy to see the return of this story. While the majority of your fics I've had the pleasure of reading have been creative and interesting takes on Worm, this one stands out to me as both the only E88!Taylor I can think of, and as a fairly realistic feeling tale of how a person can become a monster without noticing it. I don't claim to be any kind of expert on extremists groups or cults or whatnot, but I remember an interview with a member of "Hope Not Hate", a de-radicalizing group made up of former members of white supremacist groups and the like, where the guy said something about how you don't know how deep you're in until it's too late, because it all feels so natural, and it makes such good sense when you're in the wrong headspace. And as you pointed out before, Taylor's in the perfect headspace to be recruited - young, isolated, traumatized, borderline suicidal.
In regards to the actual events of the story, I'm pretty sure Skidmark's either dead or has a broken spine. Same goes for Squealer - ejection seats and hatches are far from delicate. As far as the death of Oni Lee goes, good riddance, and I found it interesting how you dealt with the discussions about grenade mechanisms. Informative and appropriate, without excess detail, while still indicating why Taylor can't simply no-sell them. Lung broke and fled easier than I was expecting, but... I dunno. Maybe the seed of fear from his previous defeat is yielding fruit.
As for Sophia - I do love how the entire plan fell apart because of her rampant unprofessionalism. 'Not a soldier' indeed. She killed a civilian and left the body visible, apparently was speaking in a normal or loud tone of voice during a kidnapping mission, and took time that ended up spoiling her assassination attempt by taunting a man in a coma about his death. Also amusing how her attempts to retroactively justify her atrocious conduct in light of Taylor's new-found allegiance sound exactly like the arguments made by RL racists. Her complete lack of awareness about being the single best recruiting tool the E88 could have asked for since Lung started kidnapping white girls and forcing them into sex slavery is quite amusing, in a fucked up way.
Thank you for the quality chapter, Ack. I hope this means that the story has been breathed back to life, and will be updated again before 2025.
One thing I'm confused about here - it seems as though Peter has triggered in this chapter, but Panacea told us in chapter 17 that Peter had no corona pollentia. Am I misunderstanding what happened?
Peter hasn't triggered. Krieg got there in the nick of time.I don't think that Peter triggered - I think that was Krieg showing up. Remember, Krieg's power is influencing and directing momentum, so when the arrow comes to a halt, its because Krieg just showed up and canceled the forward momentum of the bolt.
She's still got quite a grudge built up against Victor.Its back. I've been waiting for this one for years. Good chapter. Now the real question how committed is Vicky to the next fight?
That will happen when it comes up on the voting round once more.Wow. Lots of comeuppance and/or much-needed life lessons incoming for various characters that canonically need it/them. I really hope we get another update soon.
Voting round? I feel out of the loop here. When and where is this voting, and what is it voting on?That will happen when it comes up on the voting round once more.
That's the one.Voting round? I feel out of the loop here. When and where is this voting, and what is it voting on?
Edit: Oh wait. That link in your signature. It's the vote on which story people want to see next. I get it.