What if Jon Snow Gained The Power Of A Titan Shifter Form After Swearing His Oath Beneath A Heart Tree In AGOTing With The Same Creature as Ymir did

[Happy Apple]

Let's assume he has the same Titan Powers of the Founding Titan Shifter Ymir Fritz from AOT as he fuses with the same creature the same way as Ymir in this hypothetic scenario. In my head Jons Snows Titans Form looks like Erens because it looks the coolest lol. How will this affect the story, His actions, decisions and the people around him etc



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[Renko]

View: https://youtu.be/ObfoGsE9xEY?feature=shared​

 

[Gerhman573]

Let's be more specific, what are Ymir's powers? Just the Founding Titan or does she have all 9 abilities? I remember her titan was actually gigantic, 30 meters or smrhg, not a collosal but smthg bigger than usual.

Also can Jon create titans? The power of the Founder is largely from it's bloodline control ability A.K.A. mass brainwash and titan création.

And honestly, ignoring all that, just a titan alone probably rolls through Game of Thrones where the biggest alive dragon is the size of 2 horses lmao.

 

[Happy Apple]

Let's be more specific, what are Ymir's powers? Just the Founding Titan or does she have all 9 abilities? I remember her titan was actually gigantic, 30 meters or smrhg, not a collosal but smthg bigger than usual.

Also can Jon create titans? The power of the Founder is largely from it's bloodline control ability A.K.A. mass brainwash and titan création.

And honestly, ignoring all that, just a titan alone probably rolls through Game of Thrones where the biggest alive dragon is the size of 2 horses lmao.

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Says on the wiki-(big quote reference incoming)-Ymir was the very first Titan and the only one to ever possess the complete [COLOR=var(--theme-link-color)]power of the Titans[/COLOR]; all who came after her merely possessed fragments of her power. Her Titan body was immense, even by [COLOR=var(--theme-link-color)]Titan[/COLOR] standards, and easily towered above the treeline. Using her immense strength, she effortlessly wiped out [COLOR=var(--theme-link-color)]Marley[/COLOR]'s forces. She was also very skilled at controlling her Titan, as she performed complex tasks such as building bridges across mountains and cultivating the fields.[COLOR=var(--theme-link-color)][40]https://attackontitan.fandom.com/wiki/Ymir_Fritz#cite_note-m122p16-40[/COLOR]
It is said that nobody could surpass Ymir, and that because Ymir died 13 years after awakening her powers, no one was allowed to live beyond that; this phenomenon was known as the "[COLOR=var(--theme-link-color)]Curse of Ymirhttps://attackontitan.fandom.com/wiki/Power_of_the_Titans#Curse_of_Ymir."[COLOR=var(--theme-link-color)][7][/COLOR][/COLOR]
After Ymir's death, her spirit lived on in a [COLOR=var(--theme-link-color)]worldhttps://attackontitan.fandom.com/wiki/Pathwhere the [COLOR=var(--theme-link-color)]Coordinate[/COLOR] resides.[COLOR=var(--theme-link-color)][41][/COLOR] She was responsible for all [COLOR=var(--theme-link-color)]Titan[/COLOR] transformations throughout history: whenever the power of the Titans was invoked, she built the Titan bodies out of the otherworldly sand.[COLOR=var(--theme-link-color)][9][/COLOR] She was also responsible for [COLOR=var(--theme-link-color)]regeneration[/COLOR] and re-sculpted [COLOR=var(--theme-link-color)]Zeke[/COLOR]'s body after he was blown up.[COLOR=var(--theme-link-color)][42][/COLOR] It reportedly took Ymir a very long time to create these bodies: Zeke said it took her "years" to build him a single human body, but because the world in which she lived transcends time, the process was almost an instant in the physical world.[COLOR=var(--theme-link-color)][42][/COLOR] According to Zeke, Ymir could create anything, even chains that represent the "[COLOR=var(--theme-link-color)]vow of renouncing war[/COLOR]."[COLOR=var(--theme-link-color)][43][/COLOR][/COLOR]
Ymir was also the source of the [COLOR=var(--theme-link-color)]Founding Titanhttps://attackontitan.fandom.com/wiki/Founding_Titan's power. From controlling other Titans to creating the [COLOR=var(--theme-link-color)]Wall Titans[/COLOR] to altering the bodies of the [COLOR=var(--theme-link-color)]Subjects of Ymir[/COLOR], all of the Founding Titan's feats were done by Ymir after she was given the order, either by a scream or in person through the world where Ymir resided.[COLOR=var(--theme-link-color)][44][/COLOR] However, because Ymir was [COLOR=var(--theme-link-color)]Fritz[/COLOR]'s slave, she only listened to the commands of the [COLOR=var(--theme-link-color)]royal[/COLOR] [COLOR=var(--theme-link-color)]family[/COLOR]; thus, only the royal family could use the Founder's power.[COLOR=var(--theme-link-color)][11][/COLOR][/COLOR]
[COLOR=var(--theme-link-color)]Eren Yeagerhttps://attackontitan.fandom.com/wiki/Eren_Yeager became the exception to this, as he invoked the Founder on two occasions. The first was when he punched [COLOR=var(--theme-link-color)]Dina Fritz[/COLOR]'s Pure Titan and commanded Ymir to make the surrounding Titans attack Dina; after she was killed, he turned them against [COLOR=var(--theme-link-color)]Reiner Braun[/COLOR].[COLOR=var(--theme-link-color)][45][/COLOR] The second was when Eren convinced Ymir that she had a will of her own, freeing her from the royal family's control, and she lent her power to Eren instead of Zeke.[COLOR=var(--theme-link-color)][46][/COLOR][/COLOR]
Pretty sure she had all 9 Titan abilities. So that means Jon can create Titans in this hypothetical. So yes, mass brainwash and bloodline control for Jon as well.

 

[Theman]

We'll be absolutely dominated the white walkers when they show up. To give a more in depth answer we need to know when Jon snow will die and if he will keep his oath or if he will have children Ygritte was able to seduce him but also ended up killing herself. Honestly I don't think the power of the titans would be passed on, it being passed on from Ymir to her three daughters in Attack on Titan is already nonsense I mean how did King Fritz know that the daughters needed to eat Ymir after she died. So jons wilding son would have to eat him after he died. Very few cultures do this.

 

[S.I.N]

We'll be absolutely dominated the white walkers when they show up. To give a more in depth answer we need to know when Jon snow will die and if he will keep his oath or if he will have children Ygritte was able to seduce him but also ended up killing herself. Honestly I don't think the power of the titans would be passed on, it being passed on from Ymir to her three daughters in Attack on Titan is already nonsense I mean how did King Fritz know that the daughters needed to eat Ymir after she died. So jons wilding son would have to eat him after he died. Very few cultures do this.

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.....I don't think he knew he was just insane enough to try it....

 

[NightmareWarden]

We'll be absolutely dominated the white walkers when they show up. To give a more in depth answer we need to know when Jon snow will die and if he will keep his oath or if he will have children Ygritte was able to seduce him but also ended up killing herself. Honestly I don't think the power of the titans would be passed on, it being passed on from Ymir to her three daughters in Attack on Titan is already nonsense I mean how did King Fritz know that the daughters needed to eat Ymir after she died. So jons wilding son would have to eat him after he died. Very few cultures do this.

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He did not know, he was just a mad and selfish idiot who had a tantrum. "I want my power back! Waaagh!" He assumed the secret was in the mom's body, and the kids hadn't pulled off any Titan transformations up to that point, so they needed an extra push.


I'm trying to figure out if there is any way to justify a case like Kuklo from the spinoff happening in your GoT timeline. https://attackontitan.fandom.com/wiki/Kuklo . No special powers, but a good reason to turn the war against the undead into an eternal siege against the northlands. I was thinking pieces of his Titan body could shrink until eventually a little mindless Titan pops up… but nothing fit perfectly, unless you want Jon to tear his Titan body into pieces from the "savage madness" we saw influence Eren at the start of the series. Then the bad half could be a source of wild titans and traumatized humans. Or he could make a glow or Shazam-like--lightning spawn whenever he touches a living or undead Giant native to the northlands. It stuns him and somehow makes the situation worse, such as by splintering his power into a wild Titan or something.

What will wind up mattering are the Rules Jon, or his predecessor from when the wall went up, sets for the powers. If you go deep into GoT lore, you might be able to find hints of the Rules that governed Titan powers during the past age passed down into rules about the Seven deities or the ways society was arranged before dragon riders came over from Old Valyria.

 

[Theman]

He did not know, he was just a mad and selfish idiot who had a tantrum. "I want my power back! Waaagh!" He assumed the secret was in the mom's body, and the kids hadn't pulled off any Titan transformations up to that point, so they needed an extra push.


I'm trying to figure out if there is any way to justify a case like Kuklo from the spinoff happening in your GoT timeline. https://attackontitan.fandom.com/wiki/Kuklo . No special powers, but a good reason to turn the war against the undead into an eternal siege against the northlands. I was thinking pieces of his Titan body could shrink until eventually a little mindless Titan pops up… but nothing fit perfectly, unless you want Jon to tear his Titan body into pieces from the "savage madness" we saw influence Eren at the start of the series. Then the bad half could be a source of wild titans and traumatized humans. Or he could make a glow or Shazam-like--lightning spawn whenever he touches a living or undead Giant native to the northlands. It stuns him and somehow makes the situation worse, such as by splintering his power into a wild Titan or something.

What will wind up mattering are the Rules Jon, or his predecessor from when the wall went up, sets for the powers. If you go deep into GoT lore, you might be able to find hints of the Rules that governed Titan powers during the past age passed down into rules about the Seven deities or the ways society was arranged before dragon riders came over from Old Valyria.

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Yeah but still going "Eat it" makes no sense. Why would eating someone give you the power?

 

[NightmareWarden]

Yeah but still going "Eat it" makes no sense. Why would eating someone give you the power?

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Imagine Greek mythology, with its magical body parts, weapons, and divinely blessed humans. Now step sideways into European occultism, ritualist, and witchcraft, the kinds which a Japanese writer could smudge together. Purification of the body via a specially prepared bottle of gunk, oils on the skin that allow someone infertile to bear an offspring, breathing in carcinogenic smoke to clear the mind of demons…

It wasn't sensible, but eating is an important part of human psychology and works its way into the myths of every culture. The scene itself was meant to be extremely taboo, and someone with as little morals as that king is expected to break taboos. Especially if he thinks he'll get power out of it. "Taboos/morals are for commoners," or whatever angle you think makes sense.

It is also another layer of abuse on the deceased mother as well as the three children she bled and sacrificed for.

If a lesser man than Jon Snow received this power and learned he required a month of recovery between transformations, do you think they would blaspheme the trees of the old gods to speed that up? Permanently, or when an important reason warrants a risk like that, such as saving their family from northern raiders? Yeah. It's like that. To the king, taboos are just another thing to be twisted for his clawing, ugly NEED. Now, if the transformation into the original Titan required a spell, a magical girl magic circle of light, or gestures to push energies in just the right ways…? Then the king might have used the mother's body parts as ritual foci. Force the girls to wield their bother's spine, preserved heart, etc. as aids to help manipulate the energies. Without anything like that, as obtuse as the rules of titanshifting is, eating her made sense- it makes sense to me too, since the daughters didn't inherit the power by birth or by their mother's death.

 

[Angry_Crustacean]

Dude, the rounding titan is fucking huge. If John had the full power of the founder, he breaks the world over his knee. Not to mention that he could customise his titan form at will.