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Will of The Force (Star Wars / Worm)

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CapCaverna said:
[QUERY] She sent through the network towards the nearest shard to the Anomaly, but Fusion Engine 3 failed to report, then she broadened the query's range, finally getting an answer.

[DATA] The Warrior Hub Administrator sent a package of direct observations from its host.

[PROPOSAL].

[DISAGREEMENT].

… [DATA] She grudgingly sent a part of the information she had already gathered, evidencing the breach of security on the network.

This time, there was a delay, almost a full second, but the answer still came. [DISAGREEMENT]

All her processes were halted for a tenth of a second as her physical body actually turned to glare at the Administrator's host; it seemed to have gone through a faulty deployment and gotten… attached.

Indeed, the termination of its host was extremely likely, but the projected amount of data acquired and the repercussions would be more than worth its sacrifice.
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Welp, the Simurgh just signed it's own death warrant.
 
New chapter right as I start reaching that point, love it.

I imagine hearing Leviathan may be coming is probably panic inducing for like half the people in the ABB. Especially since the hero population has been severely diminished. Hopefully they don't lack faith in their new boss.
 
Forsaken139 said:
Splish splash, time for Levithan to crash upon Vader's mercy.
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Endbringers are usually heavily nerfed in fanfics for narrative reasons. Unless you use some really esoteric powers and/or extremely concentrated effect for a surgical strike at their "core" that wouldn't atomize the planet as collateral, they would survive any conventional attack using any conventional force with our understanding of physics because they simply exist in a different league.

Whether Vader can do anything to an Endbringer depends entirely on whether or not the Force would directly protect him from their abilities as step 1. Otherwise L can dehydrate him, S can crush him and B can nuke him if he ever escalates to being perceived as actual threat. Assuming their restrictions let them escalate that much before leaving the battlefield because narrative.
 
zooba said:
Endbringers are usually heavily nerfed in fanfics for narrative reasons. Unless you use some really esoteric powers and/or extremely concentrated effect for a surgical strike at their "core" that wouldn't atomize the planet as collateral, they would survive any conventional attack using any conventional force with our understanding of physics because they simply exist in a different league.

Whether Vader can do anything to an Endbringer depends entirely on whether or not the Force would directly protect him from their abilities as step 1. Otherwise L can dehydrate him, S can crush him and B can nuke him if he ever escalates to being perceived as actual threat. Assuming their restrictions let them escalate that much before leaving the battlefield because narrative.
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your forgetting star wars tech is pretty advanced and anakin has always been a prodigy.
and disintegrators are a thing not to mention prob more esoteric wepons he's picked up over the years
 
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CapCaverna said:
Anyways, after this, I'll work on that new ff I started, it's called Arcane: Rule of Blood, but that one is NSFW so I'm not posting it here
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Bit confused by this, since rule of blood is already posted to QQ? Or if you mean the specific chapter(s) youre making are nsfw which is confusing since the story is tagged nsfw and QQ does allow it

Anyways thanks for the chapter
 
Dicloniuslord said:
Bit confused by this, since rule of blood is already posted to QQ? Or if you mean the specific chapter(s) youre making are nsfw which is confusing since the story is tagged nsfw and QQ does allow it

Anyways thanks for the chapter
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Ah, I mean I'm lazy and just copy pasted from my post in SB.... Gonna fix that later
 
Still loving the story. Thanks for the chapter.
 
Siphon said:
They nearly killed Behemoth in India before Scion even showed up. They managed to expose and nearly pierce its core.
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They were using parahuman powers right? Those are generally in the "this doesn't make any kind of sense but it's happening anyway" category.
loki98065 said:
and disintegrators are a thing
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I don't know much about the SW universe or it's high end tech, but if those are anything like Scion's Stilling then that could indeed work.
 
zooba said:
They were using parahuman powers right? Those are generally in the "this doesn't make any kind of sense but it's happening anyway" category.

I don't know much about the SW universe or it's high end tech, but if those are anything like Scion's Stilling then that could indeed work.
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The first problem with an Endbringer is... what exactly is an Endbringer?

As far as I'm aware, the core of an Endbringer is their true self, and it works on bulshittium...

I'm pretty sure the Author just looked at all the comments and ideas people used on how to beat an endbringer, then came up with an explanation that he thought was impossible to beat.

Now, there's been so much fanfic of Worm that I'm honestly not sure if an Endbringer core is a compressed shard... if it contains the mass of a few planets compressed through dimmensional powers into a hyper dense sphere that's not fully into this dimmension and, as a result, doesn't weight enough to have gravity.... or if they contain the mass of an entire alternative universe compressed in said core...

Basically, they're bullshit and you're not gonna break it with physical power unless you're Silver and Bronze Age Superman.


Now, Star Wars has things that can defeat it, the Death Star has a good chance of cracking it if it's not the Universe thing... but there's also other powers like Force Storm (one variant can create black holes), and there are other ways.

For example, Sith Lightning isn't actually just lightning, it's powered by hate, anger and cruelty, a mixture of Harry Potter crucio and a disintegrating ray that works more on less in a conceptual level and could, theoretically, affect even a Shard.

I'm trying not to have the Force work as a YES button to any problem, (although canonically, it actually is, even if it's not used that way very much because that would be boring.) So Anakin separates Force abilities into different, categorized powers, like Force Telekinesis, Force Healing, Force Lightning, and if he doesn't have much practice with those powers, he's not as good.


In short, could Anakin defeat an Endbringer? Not with a lightsaber or just using Force Telekinesis on the core.

As someone commented, I'm trying to portray the fact that Anakin has a LOT of trouble directly affecting a shard, he can interact with their powers, and with things around the shard, but the shard itself is difficult... by the same token, a shard can't really affect him, the Simurgh has trouble seeing the Future with him, Vista's power couldn't keep him away.

Using the Force, Anakin can protect himself from the more devastating powers of an Endbringer, the Simurgh couldn't just give him an aneurysm, and Leviathan can't boil the water in his body, Behemoth can't... well, I don't actually know what Behemoth could do that would affect him directly... give him cancer at a range?
 
zooba said:
Those are generally in the "this doesn't make any kind of sense but it's happening anyway" category.
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Officially the powers of the shards are actually all scientifically possible, it's just people on Earth Bet have no idea how they work because half the process is taken care of by the Shard and the other half the tech/knowledge is too advanced for them.

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well, I don't actually know what Behemoth could do that would affect him directly... give him cancer at a range?
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Behemoth's claim to fame is the fact it's 40ft tall and a dynakinetic. But he also has other things like literally being able to ignite you from the inside or create EMPs via manipulating electromagnetism. He's also the only one of the originally three active Endbringers who isn't Manton-Limited. Leviathan can't control water in a person's body, and neither can Simurgh's TK directly grab you. Hell the Simurgh might be the easiest to deal with as interacting with one of her blind spots (aka Dinah) will temporarily make you immune to her psychic scream as well.
 
Siphon said:
Officially the powers of the shards are actually all scientifically possible, it's just people on Earth Bet have no idea how they work because half the process is taken care of by the Shard and the other half the tech/knowledge is too advanced for them.


Behemoth's claim to fame is the fact it's 40ft tall and a dynakinetic. But he also has other things like literally being able to ignite you from the inside or create EMPs via manipulating electromagnetism. He's also the only one of the originally three active Endbringers who isn't Manton-Limited. Leviathan can't control water in a person's body, and neither can Simurgh's TK directly grab you. Hell the Simurgh might be the easiest to deal with as interacting with one of her blind spots (aka Dinah) will temporarily make you immune to her psychic scream as well.
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In Parahumans, the manton limit is an arbitrary limit created by the shard to put restrictions in the host so it becomes more creative in power use, as seen by the fact that, sometimes, a second trigger can eliminate said limit.

So, I really assume that in both Leviathan and the Simurgh, it's not that they can't affect a person, they just restrict themselves because they're sandbagging, it's the same reason they flee if enough damage is done... since we're talking about an actual fight, not just the playfight they do every few months, I considered that they would try to affect Anakin.

Still, good to know
 
CapCaverna said:
The first problem with an Endbringer is... what exactly is an Endbringer?
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I'm not trying to criticize at all. I already said in my first comment Endbringers are usually changed for narrative reasons, and that's honestly fine. They're a deux ex machina with a total mass somewhere between a small moon and half a galaxy(Wildbow might have been hyperbolic with this statement when he made it but when people do the math of Tattletale's observations of how durable they are it's starts being not that exaggerated) layered over a tiny area of increasing density and spread over countless dimensions. They are literally a plot devices used to force specific themes Wildbow wanted in the story and everyone who writes a story about Worm has to work around it. Some people decide to nerf them for that sweet hero moment others just redo canon and limp away from the fight to the story they actually want to tell.
 
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So, I really assume that in both Leviathan and the Simurgh, it's not that they can't affect a person, they just restrict themselves because they're sandbagging, it's the same reason they flee if enough damage is done... since we're talking about an actual fight, not just the playfight they do every few months, I considered that they would try to affect Anakin.
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Nah, Simurgh isn't sandbagging in the sequel and still can't crush Victoria's heart, and WoG confirmed Leviathan is equally limited.

But in the end it is your story so you can decide whatever, honestly I'll read it either way because this has been really interesting.
 
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