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Questionable Questing

Queen Fiona
Queen Fiona
I'm not even sure what DxD is, except probably something I have absolutely no interest in.

It's one of those shitty isekais with an awful harem protagonist, right?
d.fish
d.fish
It's an awful harem protag with generic high school shounen story and generic awful JRPG uneducated world building. Like a bukkake of terrible self-inserts...
Queen Fiona
Queen Fiona
Guys have no imagination, do they? Needing someone so generic and shitty to identify with...really now.~

Hm, but is it safe for Fishie to assume Queenie has good taste? What if Queenie is also shit?
Imabot
Imabot
I don't think that complain applying only to DxD SI. From what I see SI also ruin good settings when said SI is another OP character with cheat level powers.
Yurihime
Yurihime
Queenie has good taste
d.fish
d.fish
Amount of power in a setting doesn't really affect quality. Shit writers are shit no matter what...
daimahou
daimahou
Fishie should obviously show everyone how a good SI fic is done!
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d.fish
d.fish
No, I shit writer rofl
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Imabot
Imabot
Do it anyway. It's time to hit the lowest of low.
Queen Fiona
Queen Fiona
Fishie self-inserts herself into some setting where she can have a cute sister.
Imabot
Imabot
Sisters. And each is expy of one of the QQ users. Fiona will be youngest loli imouto that it's only for headpats and spoiling with gifts and not lewds.
Queen Fiona
Queen Fiona
You're a monster. :c
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Rosenlied
Rosenlied
I've seen that the DxD setting can theoretically work quite well as a Fate/Grand Order fusion deal. Stripped of the harem-y aspects. This of course hinges on characters being written faithfully though, and the harem being removed.
Rosenlied
Rosenlied
On a note about SI: this seems to be in part a primary issue. "Character that is fairly similar to the author"? Sure. "Metaknowledgey Mary Sue" less so (the metaknowledge being the issue, OP protagonists can be fun if done right.)
Rosenlied
Rosenlied
That being said, established characters with metaknowledge somehow can have their own benefits. It's probably a combination between "OP protagonist who is literally the author roflstomping with metaHAXXX" whereas individual aspects if toned down work.
Rosenlied
Rosenlied
Then again. Find one of those harem protagonist isekais, make the harem a *yuri* harem, who needs to make her completely author projection when you can build a completely new character who's the perfectly cute but somewhat oblivious useless lesbian...
Queen Fiona
Queen Fiona
Well, what about a *useful* lesbian? The kind of girl who can awaken urges those girls didn't know they have...

Maybe just as much wish fulfillment, but it at least implies the girl has some personality to attract those girls to her, y'know?
Rosenlied
Rosenlied
Even better. Though the important part is reducing flat characterization (and no, I don't mean chest size by "characterization"). Even if blissfully oblivious of all the girls who are gaying over her and to an extent each other, as long as she's defined as someone who's not 'just a dense harem protagonist with like a few redeeming aspects' but rather 'the girl who does this and..."
Rosenlied
Rosenlied
And that I feel might be part of the issue of "pure SI". Said character comes off as somewhat of a caricaturized version of the author, say.
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