Questionable Questing

Bob is bob

How be work?

Andy333

It was alright. At the construction sight though I don't know if it was the insecticide, they were fumigating the house earlier, the debris from all the construction, or the big lawn they had with tons of trees but my allergies just went insane. By the time I got a home I had a really nasty headache.

Andy333

I'm feel better now though and I'm hoping tomorrow will be better.

Andy333

Anyway back to Lilith, I'm thinking she has a bit of a reputation for being a prude and kind of cold despite being the patron saint of succbus. My thinking is after she settled down and married Lucifer, she tried to over correct from her more promiscuous background and deliberately avoided any sexual situation or place where she would be tempted to cheat.

Bob is bob

I am approving of anti ntr spirit. I was thinking of how sexual can be in a lot of things. Her being a powerful ruler and warrior queen, that is sexy but also brutal and violent and doesn't mean she needs to act like a slut. Only be a god queen dommy mommy. Sorry for the alleriges, I get bad sneezes myself.

Andy333

So balls and parties that used to be orgies, how have requirements to be fully clothed and wear stuffy dress gowns. No alcohol is served at parties. Servants are now taught to avoid directly interacting with guests. Stuff like that.

Andy333

And the thing is again she used to be the slut. The ultimate party girl. Lilith deliberately repressed that because she felt it wasn't proper for a queen to act that way. Which was another reason she's a little angry at Lucifer for trying to take over. She made sacrifices to be a good ruler and he didn't.

Andy333

What she's having trouble seeing is that through charlies he's letting go of his anger, hurt, and misplaced pride. He's slowly changing for the better as well, and Lilith is going to have her own character arc through charlie in being more accepting of her sexual side and that she doesn't have to be so controlling to be a good ruler.

Bob is bob

Lucifer do be a whore

So what inspired the Sucubi and what was their serious role? To make them pop as cool and scary. Sexed up of course but also other things. I like the tension here between Lucifer and Lilith not being perfect relationship.

What is old Hell like politics and culture wise vs new Hell? New hell starting with Charlie's birth and childhood growing up

Bob is bob

What is her law? What is the justice of Hell? And I like how wholesome this is. Fits the show. When I started talking about this with you, I always liked the tone and characters of the show. But the fantasy fan in me went, I'd really like a lot of metal as fuck worldbuilding and lore and epic fights and drama to go with the Princess of fucking Hell and demon overlord gang wars

Andy333

Well I'm thinking even before Charlie was born, Lucifer slowly mellowed out throughout the years. Went from apocalyptically angry to semi controlled over time. But the big things is that old hell lead mainly by the original angel's that fell alongside Lucifer and became the first demons fall into two groups.

Andy333

The first one wants revenge against heaven and to settle old scores. think of their fall like a civil war on crack. You have a whole family that fought and killed each other. Before everyone loved each other and now their sworn enemy's.

Andy333

There's a lot of bad blood and resentment on both side and this first group represent all of that, in even after all this time they still haven't let it go. To them hell is not a home. Heaven is. Hell is just a temporary base for their army while they fight the war.

Bob is bob

They are fighting to give their children what is owed them and have thousands of years of hate and regrets and rage between them and Angels, who oh fuck the angels want to kill them too, sending in angel legions to invade hell, stoking Lucifer's wrath and Lilith's defense budget.

Andy333

The second group are more stable and have accepted that hell is their home now and that they are no longer angels they are demons. Their mentality is if we can't go back to heaven, then were going to make our own heaven with black jack and hookers. They want to make hell so grand and so amazing that even god will be impressed.

Bob is bob

I'm hearing for ages all three sides of Lucifer. the Angel, the Destroyer, the Corrupter were all different types but same level of furious at Heaven and Sinners, and if we take from More Than Anything lyric of tried this all before.

Bob is bob

in the first few ages Pride might have been fashioned as a dark heaven on earth as Lucifer tried to make a people out of the Sinners. And that is why you have such a strong cult of Lucifer the god of Hell in the capital city

Andy333

They want to make god jealous of what they've accomplished, make him regret ever banishing them. So think big castles, big cities, big everything. Grand everything. Their goal is to make hell perfect and that makes them bit of snobs in that they look down upon violence, betrayal, and chaos thinking that only distracts them from the ultimate goal.

Andy333

They are loyal more to Lilith and hate Lucifer a little bit, because in their mind Lucifer's can't get over the war and mommy Lilith is the one keeps things in check.

Bob is bob

So Sinners see them as prime real estate for Overlords to sell their souls to but there is a catch. Joining up for the conquest and breaking of heaven.