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Biigoh

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  • d.fish
    It feels like a lot of these Biigohs aren't really Biigohs anymore with how well they're doing and being so competent. Maybe we should rename them? But then again, that seems like a mid idea, even if they're all named like "Merlin" and "Magi⭐Mari" or whatever. Also 4 seems like a weird number to start with, maybe either 3 or 5 are better.
    d.fish
    If you think about it, Ash really represents the autistic idiot that is the player character, he starts off overleveling one pokemon that doesn't obey him (Charizard) and it takes him a region before he learns type effectiveness, and then it takes him ten years to learn the game mechanics, just like players
    d.fish
    There's not a lot of Japanese isekai where the MC actually has a credible threat that you could insert into,

    the few I see are like, you know that fat fuck MC in I Got a Cheat Skill and Became Unrivaled in the Real World too, if you insert as his hot twin brother who fucks his twin sister,

    but there's not a lot of those
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    Biigoh
    lol
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    you remember that manga? "Isekai NTR", where the MC "NTRs", but author's a cuck loser, so it's not so much "NTR" as much as the girl already betrayed his best friend so MC is "reasonable" and "righteous" in "fucking his best friend's girlfriend"
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    Biigoh
    Yes
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    d.fish
    These isekai titles are so generically stupid lmao

    "I was reincarnated as the 7th prince, so I'll be mastering magic at my own pace"
    "8th son? That can't be true!"

    it's like we're just going by numbers now

    you never really notice until you list them out
    d.fish
    I kind of like this story where MC takes on missions from memeing retarded idiot readers, so the missions be like:

    "Don't kill Momonosuke, take away his artificial devil fruit, being powerless is worse than killing this trash"
    "Steal all of Wendelin von Benno Baumeister's opportunities, I hate this Gary Stu"
    "Save Manato in Grimgar, my male god doesn't deserve to be replaced by that salt fish as MC"
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    d.fish
    d.fish
    人生赢家从成为暗影开始 by YY萌新
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    It's pretty good in now it tickles the "power up", "harem", "ruthless profiteer", "multiverse" check boxes
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    d.fish
    some of these chapter titles are hilarious too, like this one, "I, Uchiha Obito, support whatever the Hidden Mist Village opposes"
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    So normally, "chuunibyou" is "middle second disease", because it's a disease of kids in the second great of middle school, right, so when people get mad at chuunis, they call them "second-year cancer patients" hahahahahahahaaaaa
    d.fish
    If it wasn't for someone reminding me, I wouldn't have known that Darkness and Esdeath are a natural yuri couple.
    d.fish
    Come to think of it, 火云邪神 in Kung Fu Hustle said a lot of iconic lines. Most people remember his "In the World of Martial Arts, speed determines the victor", but most people forget he also said "I just want to kill you or be killed by you." If you say it to a big bad, like, idk the strong type not the manipulation type, like, Cell in DBZ or Dio Brando, that'd be kinda interesting
    d.fish
    I found this one story where the MC isekais every few days and gets a copying ability, and one of the worlds he frequents is one with a lot of spider-men, like not a multiverse or anything like that, gwen, peter, harry osborn, wilson fisk, etc. are all spider-people, and it's like a dark twist world, gwen's got an abusive family, peter killed his bullies, etc.

    it's pretty great
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    d.fish
    in the end there were 16 spider people, one of whom was a Superman Spider-Man, and another one was a Peter Parker who destroyed over 10 universes and had a black girlfriend who died, it's quite fun
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    It does sound interesting fun
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    d.fish
    it is! and then it didn't update fast enough so now I'm waiting on it
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    Still haven't figured out a good hell-level start for cyberpunk biigoh, alas
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    d.fish
    yeah yeah yeah, depicting people who are not necessarily good as sympathetic is one of my staples
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    Biigoh
    Also, it ish not not if you attack before the other guy!
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    d.fish
    that depends on how you depict it, I guess
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    d.fish
    The Chinese "Xiongjun" sounds kind of tough, but when you translate it to Japanese it becomes a cute "Kuma-kun".
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    Biigoh
    Kuma-kun~ sounds adorbs XD
    d.fish
    TBH I thought GANTZBii would be an Average Japanese Male Highschool Student, but "Inoue Hanabi" sounds like a girl's name.
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    Biigoh
    It all seemed so normal... A very day slice of life high school romcom.... And then suddenly, Gantz.
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    d.fish
    Then that's still "Biigoh thought this was a regular Oregairu world where he could seduce Yukinoshita Yukino and NTR the male protagonist, brought her on a date to Shinjuku, when suddenly GANTZed"
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    Biigoh
    Yesh!
    d.fish
    So with TanuBii, I think the time is thus:

    Born hanyou from a noble daughter of a warrior and a native tanuki youkai, Tanubii was kicked out of the tanuki clan of the Western Lands (Seibu no Kuni, modern Shikoku) due to being a half-blood, so he goes east to Wa no Kuni, where the ruler as well as the prince-consort just died and the young widow queen Himiko just rose in the capitol Yamataikoku
    d.fish
    You know what, we could have Bi Changguo also have a nightmare level start with a fun twist; he starts off as a martial arts genius, but a rival family poisons him and causes his meridians to be wrecked, and his internal power is ruined, and this is pre-Song Dynasty, so martial arts is on the downturn while literary arts is on the rise, so Bi Changguo's betrothed comes to break off the betrothal
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    d.fish
    Similarly, I think the ancient hanyou tanubii could become a prototype onmyoji/court advisor/imperial preceptor in, idk, queen himiko's court or something. And then develop later as an onmyoji teacher, maybe waifu a hagoromo gitsune and a midoriko, father a seimei no abe, etc. and by the time Inuyasha time rolls around, hanyou tanubii probably ancestor of an onmyoji clan or something

    and maybe go explore jusenkyo
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    d.fish
    and maybe hanyou tanubii is the one who taught seimei no abe the Taizan Fukun no Sai (ritual), so we'll have a "spring of the drowned tanuki hanyou" because hanyou tanubii can self-resurrect

    so by the time of Inuyasha, tanubii might, unlike wuxiabii, don't wanna become emperor, since in Japan it's kind of unbroken bloodline, so he just eats popcorn and teases protagonists
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    d.fish
    it's like, "oh naraku or sesshomaru you can beat some daiyoukai through trickery and some daiyoukai give you trouble, then how about my 108 daiyoukai shikigami or my 3000 shinto shikigami???" pew pew pew, or something lmao

    like unlike the other biigohs, maybe this biigoh is there to show off and act cool, and be like the sparkly star at the center of the camera screen
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    d.fish
    Some story premises don't make any sense, like this one where MC isekais to Pokémon, and he joins team rocket, but he doesn't get a system, nor does he have any cheats, he doesn't get any legendaries, or even any girlfriends, and it's like some shit story about some stupid guy climbing up from the bottom with a rattata in a gritty dark world

    like who wants to read this kind of garbage trash
    d.fish
    I think I've finalized it down to a wuxia badass Bi Changsheng, a hanyou badass Tanubii, a mook in GANTZ (yet to bii named), and a mook in Cyberpunk (yet to bii named).... this way it balances out with two under achievers and two over achievers
    d.fish
    alternatively, we could forgo an introduction or some kind of opening like that, instead we just open with a Biigoh who has already isekaied and then add a sense of urgency

    For example, this one Biigoh wakes up hearing that music you hear when you enter the room in GANTZ, so it is "death game urgency" level from the start
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    Biigoh
    Biigoh
    They're death games? XD
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    d.fish
    well, I suppose you have a point there

    but I always felt like there wasn't much death risk in SAO or .Hack compared to Infinite Terror or GANTZ, you know, maybe it's because they are "games" and not as bloody
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    Yeah
    d.fish
    Thinking about it more, in addition to those Biigohs, we could also have a sort of "youkai-ish" Biigoh, but not like how we talked before where it's a gestalt warring states era, but one that has a lot more Rumiko elements, like Ranma 1/2, since, you know, "martial arts" as a theme, but we could still have this Biigoh be a shitty hanyou in the warring states era
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    At least the Biigoh isn't a PHOENIX in Ranma 1/2 XD

    I remember the stupid fat phoenix. XD
    d.fish
    d.fish
    that's a giant chicken
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    Biigoh
    Yesh... Ish true
    d.fish
    After thinking about it, I don't really like the tired and over used Naruto Biigoh, One Piece Biigoh, Bleach Biigoh, etc.

    and I kind of want to follow the theme of "martial arts" that comes with Dragon Ball Biigoh and Wuxia Biigoh, so maybe a Biigoh who runs a fighting type gym in Pokemon?
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    Perhaps... Biigoh in le classical Ranma 1/2 or a manga from that era... or worse... Biigoh in HANMA BAKI verse... which sucks if you don't have MUSCLES on MUSCLES and roided out guy
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    ... Baki is fun and I like it, but only like... 5 minutes of the entire series, and that's whenever Yujiro shows up
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    Yujiro is a monster of a man, yeah
    d.fish
    Actually, that "fell asleep on the toilet" joke opening works for maybe audio reading web stories for immature hotblooded harem protagonist types, but if we want to go with the carefree type, we'd probably have to do something like
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    d.fish
    "Biigoh was cheated on by wife and best friend at the wedding, in a rage, Biigoh got revenge but they pushed him off the roof, so Biigoh isekaied, and now Biigoh doesn't want to work hard, just wants a carefree life, but it's actually isekaied many times at the same time, so Biigoh will have fun with this new lease on life"

    or something of that nature, maybe, like as a nonstatic personality, that's more interesting
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    d.fish
    In the end, "30 years east of the river 30 years west of the river" is just another idiom for "every dog has its day" and "what comes around goes around" but I guess it is a bit more hot blooded than those rather agrarian idioms
    d.fish
    Still need like a sort of theme to connect the different Biigohs together; like they can't be "tanuki" because some worlds don't have youkai, though it's not impossible

    I mean, I've seen one where each clone is a native world's "god of peaches" wtf is that shit amirite

    And I don't want them to be reactive lazy hikineet losers, so a theme would be necessary

    Like Tanyas, you know
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    Biigoh
    Lazy bii that puts everything off, and is easy going
    d.fish
    d.fish
    putting everything off makes such an unappealing protagonist bah!

    easy going is possible, recently I developed an allergic reaction to protagonists who get really intense about certain beliefs but act carefree outside of it, kinda hypocritical hmm

    I suppose the easy going thing is one thing to focus on, easy to have complex characters this way
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    d.fish
    "Biigoh fell asleep on the toilet and so he isekaied..." as an opening maybe
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    I just think it'd be really cool to have one clone in the original Dragon Ball and another in Wuxia setting, and it's like, there's a lot of crisscrossing synergy
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    Biigoh
    Yeah... It really does.
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    On one hand, you could say "it's a knock off joke version of shaolin, so the monks are all unmonklike" but you could also say "this is how most shaolin monks, and most people in wulin/jianghu as a whole, are portrayed in wuxia", so it's hard to pin point, but this type of character is very convenient for an author who needs nameless villain mooks
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    They were the perfect faceless mooks
    d.fish
    There's a lot of anime these days that tend to proclaim a sort of "slave wage divine physique" because they basically tell their viewers to become wage slaves, like that one magical girl anime where magical girls have become corporate, but not cool corp like CP 2077 but lame like Japanese white collar, and the genki girl is an intern, and they run ads during magical girl transformation
    d.fish
    If only HP and meds worked like they did irl like they do in game, so you'd always see like a -0.01 HP every second or something, because we're all heading towards an inevitable death, and like meds don't recover HP, they just kind of slow the loss of HP instead
    d.fish
    Lmao that villain system complaining it's only #9000/10000 under its multiverse big boss, while sign-in system, do nothing system, waifu summoning system, etc. are all in the top ten
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