Questionable Questing

Jackal did that contrast and it was great. What did you think of Julia, Hurik's thoughts on Jenny, and Ygrite's characterization?

I thought Hurik was a little sappy, when he was brooding and comparing himself to his father because he likes to play the flute. As well as how he felt a little insecure about how commoner Jenny could make friends with everyone which is something he struggled with, but I think fundamentally Hurrik is a very sappy person underneath it all.

What's the quote from the first red dead redemption? "You're a romantic, pretending to be a cynic." I think that line pretty much sums up Hurrik. Somebody who tries really hard to be brutal and tough because he thinks that's the only way anyone will ever respect him, when underneath he has a lot more going on.

So this sappy is a good way and not a bad? The sappy is to be character depth. He may be brave and daring, power hungry and glory seeking. Even heroic and noble, but he's also uncertain in a lot of ways. Introspective of his failings and the sadness of his birth

Sappy in a good way. In the sense that in another lifetime if he had been born in a fantasy RPG or a light hearted Shonen he would be screaming his attacks at the top of his lungs with a smile. He wants to be a hero and a good person, no matter how much he tries to convince himself otherwise.

How do you think Lyanna's influence on his lust and views of romance add to this nuance?

That's a bit of a tough question, since Lyanna is the single most important person in Hurrik's life. Without Lynna he wouldn't be Hurrik if that makes any sense. But I think she had a good and bad effect on him. I think on one hand she taught him to be unafraid of how others see you or to let their judgments prevent your from finding love and happiness.

But I think the highly charged sexual environment she practically groomed in him, raised him to see sex as a tool for domination and control rather than love and is a big reason why he's struggling so hard to have normal relationships with people.

Which is a trouble with Ygrite, and what did you think of Ygrite's part and her changing character? How would you compare her to canon?

It's been a while since I've read ASOIAF, so I'm not the best source, but from I'm seeing this version of Ygritte in between being a lot more sexual and perfectly content being a kneel as long as its for a fat cock. lol. She's a lot more introspective than canon Ygritte ever was. I think of my favorite exchanges she has in canon is when she explains the concept of wife stealing to a horrified Jon Snow.

What do you like of Bastard's Glory's Ygrite and do you think she is a good character?

He asks her how she would feel if she was put that position, and she's very proud how that would never happen to her since she would kill any man that touched her without permission. She's strong and will never kneel. Jon then burst her bubble by asking her if she really thinks she can fight off every single man in her way. It was a nice showing that while Jon envied her freedom, he wouldn't compromise his honor.

Which neatly leads to this version of Ygritte. She would probably still say the same thing. But I think she's a lot more aware about it and is really thinking about what she believes in and why. I think Hurrik is constantly forcing her outside her comfort zone and that's causing her to really reevaluate who she is as a person and what she wants as she slowly falls in love with him.

What do you think of their relationship and how it has developed and her sexuality?
And have the next update https://forum.questionablequesting....sequel-thread-au-jon-snow.30230/post-10192025

I think Ygritte and Hurrik are a pair of prickly porcupines. Their love language is to constantly push and prod the other and force them to call out their bullshit. Which I think is what they both need. They need someone to keep them grounded and remind Hurrik not to get so lost in his head or assume what other people think, and to remind Ygritte not to be so judgemental or needlessly argumentative.

They ground each other. I think that's the best way to put it.

Ygrite is judgemental and Hurik assumes what other people think? How similar they sound. And what you think of the update I posted next?

I didn't want to repeat the words judgmental twice, but to be honest they both can be in their own ways. lol. And I'll read next update tomorrow.

You going to bed or nah?

Soon. I'm kind of winding down. Have a busy day tomorrow. One of the dogs is going to vet.