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  • d.fish
    I kind of like this story where MC takes on missions from memeing retarded idiot readers, so the missions be like:

    "Don't kill Momonosuke, take away his artificial devil fruit, being powerless is worse than killing this trash"
    "Steal all of Wendelin von Benno Baumeister's opportunities, I hate this Gary Stu"
    "Save Manato in Grimgar, my male god doesn't deserve to be replaced by that salt fish as MC"
    d.fish
    d.fish
    Dude went to Eminence in Shadow, killed MC, used a conceptual "True Identity Fusion Card" and stole everything that belonged to MC, gained loyal harem of erofu waifusu, and then went to Wan Pisu and gave them all devil fruits lmao
    d.fish
    So normally, "chuunibyou" is "middle second disease", because it's a disease of kids in the second great of middle school, right, so when people get mad at chuunis, they call them "second-year cancer patients" hahahahahahahaaaaa
    d.fish
    If it wasn't for someone reminding me, I wouldn't have known that Darkness and Esdeath are a natural yuri couple.
    d.fish
    Come to think of it, 火云邪神 in Kung Fu Hustle said a lot of iconic lines. Most people remember his "In the World of Martial Arts, speed determines the victor", but most people forget he also said "I just want to kill you or be killed by you." If you say it to a big bad, like, idk the strong type not the manipulation type, like, Cell in DBZ or Dio Brando, that'd be kinda interesting
    d.fish
    Been pretty serious about this version of Biigoh Space, so much so that I haven't even mentioned Pokemon Biigoh Biidoof yet
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    It's Trainer Biirch.
    d.fish
    d.fish
    that's aprofessor
    d.fish
    I found this one story where the MC isekais every few days and gets a copying ability, and one of the worlds he frequents is one with a lot of spider-men, like not a multiverse or anything like that, gwen, peter, harry osborn, wilson fisk, etc. are all spider-people, and it's like a dark twist world, gwen's got an abusive family, peter killed his bullies, etc.

    it's pretty great
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    Lol
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    d.fish
    in the end there were 16 spider people, one of whom was a Superman Spider-Man, and another one was a Peter Parker who destroyed over 10 universes and had a black girlfriend who died, it's quite fun
    d.fish
    Still haven't figured out a good hell-level start for cyberpunk biigoh, alas
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    I guess I'm not too against Biigoh having some background, like you suggested earlier, a corpo baby, that'd be like, David's classmate, so... Biigoh could try to seduce Lucy, who obviously has some shotacon tendencies
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    Just because bii is a nepo baby doesn't mean it's all good
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    yeah yeah yeah, depicting people who are not necessarily good as sympathetic is one of my staples
    d.fish
    The Chinese "Xiongjun" sounds kind of tough, but when you translate it to Japanese it becomes a cute "Kuma-kun".
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    Kuma-kun~ sounds adorbs XD
    d.fish
    TBH I thought GANTZBii would be an Average Japanese Male Highschool Student, but "Inoue Hanabi" sounds like a girl's name.
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    d.fish
    Okay that makes sense

    I think we can just have hanabii survive barely the first few missions and almost die during shinjuku to blackface, causing the first connection to BIIGOH SPACE at that time instead, and then everything works out

    and then hanabii could be so flat that reika thought hanabii is a shota
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    Wow... Bii space really is a sado-article... Bii is suffering
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    d.fish
    Alternatively, we could have a Biigoh who is an average japanese high school student, thinking he/she's in mieruko-chan, only to realize it's also jujutsu kaisen

    anyway, I'm just trying to rearrange GantzBii's backstory so it's reasonable and interesting, if you have a better idea, I'm all ears
    d.fish
    So with TanuBii, I think the time is thus:

    Born hanyou from a noble daughter of a warrior and a native tanuki youkai, Tanubii was kicked out of the tanuki clan of the Western Lands (Seibu no Kuni, modern Shikoku) due to being a half-blood, so he goes east to Wa no Kuni, where the ruler as well as the prince-consort just died and the young widow queen Himiko just rose in the capitol Yamataikoku
    d.fish
    You know what, we could have Bi Changguo also have a nightmare level start with a fun twist; he starts off as a martial arts genius, but a rival family poisons him and causes his meridians to be wrecked, and his internal power is ruined, and this is pre-Song Dynasty, so martial arts is on the downturn while literary arts is on the rise, so Bi Changguo's betrothed comes to break off the betrothal
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    Similarly, I think the ancient hanyou tanubii could become a prototype onmyoji/court advisor/imperial preceptor in, idk, queen himiko's court or something. And then develop later as an onmyoji teacher, maybe waifu a hagoromo gitsune and a midoriko, father a seimei no abe, etc. and by the time Inuyasha time rolls around, hanyou tanubii probably ancestor of an onmyoji clan or something

    and maybe go explore jusenkyo
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    and maybe hanyou tanubii is the one who taught seimei no abe the Taizan Fukun no Sai (ritual), so we'll have a "spring of the drowned tanuki hanyou" because hanyou tanubii can self-resurrect

    so by the time of Inuyasha, tanubii might, unlike wuxiabii, don't wanna become emperor, since in Japan it's kind of unbroken bloodline, so he just eats popcorn and teases protagonists
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    it's like, "oh naraku or sesshomaru you can beat some daiyoukai through trickery and some daiyoukai give you trouble, then how about my 108 daiyoukai shikigami or my 3000 shinto shikigami???" pew pew pew, or something lmao

    like unlike the other biigohs, maybe this biigoh is there to show off and act cool, and be like the sparkly star at the center of the camera screen
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    Some story premises don't make any sense, like this one where MC isekais to Pokémon, and he joins team rocket, but he doesn't get a system, nor does he have any cheats, he doesn't get any legendaries, or even any girlfriends, and it's like some shit story about some stupid guy climbing up from the bottom with a rattata in a gritty dark world

    like who wants to read this kind of garbage trash
    d.fish
    I think I've finalized it down to a wuxia badass Bi Changsheng, a hanyou badass Tanubii, a mook in GANTZ (yet to bii named), and a mook in Cyberpunk (yet to bii named).... this way it balances out with two under achievers and two over achievers
    d.fish
    alternatively, we could forgo an introduction or some kind of opening like that, instead we just open with a Biigoh who has already isekaied and then add a sense of urgency

    For example, this one Biigoh wakes up hearing that music you hear when you enter the room in GANTZ, so it is "death game urgency" level from the start
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    d.fish
    I can understand Infinite Terror since it's built off of GANTZ and stealing from more popular IPs, but what's up with the other two? They're just about being trapped in a game
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    They're death games? XD
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    well, I suppose you have a point there

    but I always felt like there wasn't much death risk in SAO or .Hack compared to Infinite Terror or GANTZ, you know, maybe it's because they are "games" and not as bloody
    d.fish
    Thinking about it more, in addition to those Biigohs, we could also have a sort of "youkai-ish" Biigoh, but not like how we talked before where it's a gestalt warring states era, but one that has a lot more Rumiko elements, like Ranma 1/2, since, you know, "martial arts" as a theme, but we could still have this Biigoh be a shitty hanyou in the warring states era
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    At least the Biigoh isn't a PHOENIX in Ranma 1/2 XD

    I remember the stupid fat phoenix. XD
    d.fish
    d.fish
    that's a giant chicken
    d.fish
    After thinking about it, I don't really like the tired and over used Naruto Biigoh, One Piece Biigoh, Bleach Biigoh, etc.

    and I kind of want to follow the theme of "martial arts" that comes with Dragon Ball Biigoh and Wuxia Biigoh, so maybe a Biigoh who runs a fighting type gym in Pokemon?
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    Perhaps... Biigoh in le classical Ranma 1/2 or a manga from that era... or worse... Biigoh in HANMA BAKI verse... which sucks if you don't have MUSCLES on MUSCLES and roided out guy
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    ... Baki is fun and I like it, but only like... 5 minutes of the entire series, and that's whenever Yujiro shows up
    d.fish
    Actually, that "fell asleep on the toilet" joke opening works for maybe audio reading web stories for immature hotblooded harem protagonist types, but if we want to go with the carefree type, we'd probably have to do something like
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    "Biigoh was cheated on by wife and best friend at the wedding, in a rage, Biigoh got revenge but they pushed him off the roof, so Biigoh isekaied, and now Biigoh doesn't want to work hard, just wants a carefree life, but it's actually isekaied many times at the same time, so Biigoh will have fun with this new lease on life"

    or something of that nature, maybe, like as a nonstatic personality, that's more interesting
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    In the end, "30 years east of the river 30 years west of the river" is just another idiom for "every dog has its day" and "what comes around goes around" but I guess it is a bit more hot blooded than those rather agrarian idioms
    d.fish
    Still need like a sort of theme to connect the different Biigohs together; like they can't be "tanuki" because some worlds don't have youkai, though it's not impossible

    I mean, I've seen one where each clone is a native world's "god of peaches" wtf is that shit amirite

    And I don't want them to be reactive lazy hikineet losers, so a theme would be necessary

    Like Tanyas, you know
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    Biigoh
    Lazy bii that puts everything off, and is easy going
    d.fish
    d.fish
    putting everything off makes such an unappealing protagonist bah!

    easy going is possible, recently I developed an allergic reaction to protagonists who get really intense about certain beliefs but act carefree outside of it, kinda hypocritical hmm

    I suppose the easy going thing is one thing to focus on, easy to have complex characters this way
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    "Biigoh fell asleep on the toilet and so he isekaied..." as an opening maybe
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    I just think it'd be really cool to have one clone in the original Dragon Ball and another in Wuxia setting, and it's like, there's a lot of crisscrossing synergy
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    Yeah... It really does.
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    On one hand, you could say "it's a knock off joke version of shaolin, so the monks are all unmonklike" but you could also say "this is how most shaolin monks, and most people in wulin/jianghu as a whole, are portrayed in wuxia", so it's hard to pin point, but this type of character is very convenient for an author who needs nameless villain mooks
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    They were the perfect faceless mooks
    d.fish
    There's a lot of anime these days that tend to proclaim a sort of "slave wage divine physique" because they basically tell their viewers to become wage slaves, like that one magical girl anime where magical girls have become corporate, but not cool corp like CP 2077 but lame like Japanese white collar, and the genki girl is an intern, and they run ads during magical girl transformation
    d.fish
    If only HP and meds worked like they did irl like they do in game, so you'd always see like a -0.01 HP every second or something, because we're all heading towards an inevitable death, and like meds don't recover HP, they just kind of slow the loss of HP instead
    d.fish
    Lmao that villain system complaining it's only #9000/10000 under its multiverse big boss, while sign-in system, do nothing system, waifu summoning system, etc. are all in the top ten
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