Celestial Saga: Behind the Scenes - On Non-Shard Powers and a bit of what Cauldrons been up to...
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So, I've mentioned multiple times how there are shenanigans going on on Earth-Bet, separate from and sometimes Pre-Dating Scion showing up in 1965.
One of the more minor but persistent things is a bit of a Charles Atlas Effect .
It's very subtle, but if you were to compare, say Strongmen of Earth-IRL and (Saga's) Earth-Bet, not only would you find the Bet-Strongmen Stronger, but strangely you'd find the age of their Strongest members to generally be around the same age IRL-Strongmen consider to be about as old as you can be and still compete competitively.
Basically, the idea of the Charles Atlas Effect is that you train your way into superpowers.
But not like, learn to punch so well, you can now use magic and call yourself the Iron Fist.
Charles Atlas Superpowers are (generally) more along the lines of the stuff Batman can do, or things taken as default in DC.
Like having a group full of people casually pulling off what would on Earth-IRL be the Olympic gold medal level of Parkour, assuming such a sport existed.
But then to also have some of those people be detectives on the level of Sherlock Holmes, and also have a mess of other world-class skills, such as multiple different martial arts, hacking, gymnastics, infiltration and a few other "minor" skills like: Cooking, Dancing, Music in general and Guitar in particular, Photography, and of corse, Vehicle Repair.
The kind of things where having that level of skill in any ONE of them would make someone a world-renowned expert on Earth-IRL, and do you want to know who I just described?
A 14-year-old Dick Grayson, currently known as Nightwing, but known at the time as Robin. The SIDEKICK of Batman.
So, when I mentioned that there were superheroes before Scion, to be clear, I wasn't talking about idiots in spandex with a shared hobby.
If Sherlock Holmes is what happens when a Genius Charles Atlas's himself into a thinker 2-3, then just imagine what a Brute 1/Mover 1 would be…
Well, admittedly, there'd be no Batman, or even a Knightwing.
I don't know many people who could handle them on Earth-Bet NOW, much less in the '50s.
But it is totally possible to effort yourself into being a 2 or even 3 in something on the PRT scale.
Emily Piggot actually would've counted as a Brute 1/Thinker 1 for the insane effort she put in the 9 months before challenging the Goblin King.
And while she's mostly just accepted "pretty good shape" since then in chapter 28, I did my best to portray two people who have quietly worked their way into thinker powers without anyone noticing.
Specifically, Emily's Thinker 2 Psychoanalyzing power, which slowly works up to a Thinker 3, thanks to the extra effort she's started to put in with Saga.
And the old fishermen she's met, who has a sort of vague spatial sense, for the sea and an increased ability to understand and predict it.
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Oh, and as a sidenote that'll likely not come up anytime soon. The Numberman is one of the few to independently discover this quality of Earth-Bet. Before he triggered, actually, though comparing Bet to other Earths, since has made it a lot clearer.
So this is one of the few things the much-reduced Culdron is still putting active research into.
One interesting detail about this research is that it, plus her so far fruitless search for Fortuna (or to at least confirm her death), has led to the Non-Bet-Native Dr. Mother developing into a Thinker 1.
Before, in a moment of hopelessness, she drank one of her more dangerous but potentially powerful thinker vials.
While the power she got hasn't led to Fortuna, it did allow the Numberman to confirm that people on Bet who work their way into minor powers are actually something like 10x as likely to get through a vial trigger without mutation or death.
So while the resulting powers also tend to be weaker on average, Cauldron has mostly sought out people the Numberman believes to have developed low-level powers for Vials.
Some local examples of this include Coil, Triumph, Gallant, and Battery.
With the only unexpected cases being Triumph, who largely got a Shaker power when he was expected to become a mid-tier Brute and Coil, who had a nearly 0% chance of granting any cognition enhancements at all.
So getting the two timelines was unsurprising, but being able to seamlessly focus on both was quite startling, and made Culdron wonder if he'd actually been the rare natural Thinker 3, before drinking the Vial…
One of the more minor but persistent things is a bit of a Charles Atlas Effect .
It's very subtle, but if you were to compare, say Strongmen of Earth-IRL and (Saga's) Earth-Bet, not only would you find the Bet-Strongmen Stronger, but strangely you'd find the age of their Strongest members to generally be around the same age IRL-Strongmen consider to be about as old as you can be and still compete competitively.
Basically, the idea of the Charles Atlas Effect is that you train your way into superpowers.
But not like, learn to punch so well, you can now use magic and call yourself the Iron Fist.
Charles Atlas Superpowers are (generally) more along the lines of the stuff Batman can do, or things taken as default in DC.
Like having a group full of people casually pulling off what would on Earth-IRL be the Olympic gold medal level of Parkour, assuming such a sport existed.
But then to also have some of those people be detectives on the level of Sherlock Holmes, and also have a mess of other world-class skills, such as multiple different martial arts, hacking, gymnastics, infiltration and a few other "minor" skills like: Cooking, Dancing, Music in general and Guitar in particular, Photography, and of corse, Vehicle Repair.
The kind of things where having that level of skill in any ONE of them would make someone a world-renowned expert on Earth-IRL, and do you want to know who I just described?
A 14-year-old Dick Grayson, currently known as Nightwing, but known at the time as Robin. The SIDEKICK of Batman.
So, when I mentioned that there were superheroes before Scion, to be clear, I wasn't talking about idiots in spandex with a shared hobby.
If Sherlock Holmes is what happens when a Genius Charles Atlas's himself into a thinker 2-3, then just imagine what a Brute 1/Mover 1 would be…
Well, admittedly, there'd be no Batman, or even a Knightwing.
I don't know many people who could handle them on Earth-Bet NOW, much less in the '50s.
But it is totally possible to effort yourself into being a 2 or even 3 in something on the PRT scale.
Emily Piggot actually would've counted as a Brute 1/Thinker 1 for the insane effort she put in the 9 months before challenging the Goblin King.
And while she's mostly just accepted "pretty good shape" since then in chapter 28, I did my best to portray two people who have quietly worked their way into thinker powers without anyone noticing.
Specifically, Emily's Thinker 2 Psychoanalyzing power, which slowly works up to a Thinker 3, thanks to the extra effort she's started to put in with Saga.
And the old fishermen she's met, who has a sort of vague spatial sense, for the sea and an increased ability to understand and predict it.
---
Oh, and as a sidenote that'll likely not come up anytime soon. The Numberman is one of the few to independently discover this quality of Earth-Bet. Before he triggered, actually, though comparing Bet to other Earths, since has made it a lot clearer.
So this is one of the few things the much-reduced Culdron is still putting active research into.
One interesting detail about this research is that it, plus her so far fruitless search for Fortuna (or to at least confirm her death), has led to the Non-Bet-Native Dr. Mother developing into a Thinker 1.
Before, in a moment of hopelessness, she drank one of her more dangerous but potentially powerful thinker vials.
While the power she got hasn't led to Fortuna, it did allow the Numberman to confirm that people on Bet who work their way into minor powers are actually something like 10x as likely to get through a vial trigger without mutation or death.
So while the resulting powers also tend to be weaker on average, Cauldron has mostly sought out people the Numberman believes to have developed low-level powers for Vials.
Some local examples of this include Coil, Triumph, Gallant, and Battery.
With the only unexpected cases being Triumph, who largely got a Shaker power when he was expected to become a mid-tier Brute and Coil, who had a nearly 0% chance of granting any cognition enhancements at all.
So getting the two timelines was unsurprising, but being able to seamlessly focus on both was quite startling, and made Culdron wonder if he'd actually been the rare natural Thinker 3, before drinking the Vial…