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Point taken I need to label each dimension. Any idea how they should be called in universe? I think is lazy to put a subtitle for the Youjo Senki universe or the Strike Witches universe, but I'm also fairly sure that everyone involved is referring to the universes as 'mine' or 'theirs' with Otherside being the closest to a formal normal name, at least until they have to decide who gets the title of the Other Side and who is considered This Side.I'm getting confused between all the names going on in PoV shifts on who belongs to which reality.
Well there's the Neuroi being a giant difference for Strike witches while the Orb analytical engine is the difference for Youjo Senki.Wars have been declared for less, and since both sides are already involved in a survival war none of the diplomats wants to open that can of worms until anyone thinks of neutral nomenclature.
Hard to say. I know that if I was from the Strike Witches Universe I would positively hate for my dimension to be called anything related to the Neuroi, likewise at this point of the YS timeline the war between the Suomos, the Gallians (who in this fic are not Francois because I want to play with the countries nomenclature and some accidental references between the dimensions) and Dacia hasn't reached yet the point to get close to the political, economic and humanitarian consequences of the SW's Great War so both sides would be wary of calling it their defining moment.Well there's the Neuroi being a giant difference for Strike witches while the Orb analytical engine is the difference for Youjo Senki.
Perhaps some word to describe the impact each event had on the world's?
The planes themselves are going to be for Liberion the equivalent of China getting an F-22… in 1980. Not only the enemy has a top-of-the-line plane supposedly assembled in one of your companies, they're getting the fighters before you start drawing the blueprints for it, or have the technology to actually make a plane of such high characteristics. The FBI could tear apart Curtiss and yet they're not finding even a concept on a napkin, while at the same time having evidence of its mass production beyond reasonable doubt.Ah they got enough information that the conclusion is obvious and straightforward, and so are going to put pressure to block it. But it is not going to do anything, yet the proof is good enough I imagine even people in Liberia are going to think someone must be working with the Empire and fooling them all. Somehow.
If it keeps up long enough, without them getting pointed at the ludicrous truth, their theories of how the Empire is doing it would eventually become hilariously over the top. Alongside the new planes they are going to think some part of their network clearly was thoroughly compromised, and yet no matter the efforts can't actually find that, which is going to make them increasingly paranoid.
I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be the U.S., though that's Liberion. Otherwise there is an actual country called Liberia irl.
I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be the U.S., though that's Liberion. Otherwise there is an actual country called Liberia irl.
https://worldwitches.fandom.com/wiki/Liberion
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberia
I'll correct it later. Plus whatever else is wrong.I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be the U.S., though that's Liberion. Otherwise there is an actual country called Liberia irl.
https://worldwitches.fandom.com/wiki/Liberion
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberia
Ah, fair enough.I should also add that for this crossover the names of the territories are going to be the same for both dimensions.
Yeah, tech itself in limited quantities won't help the Empire that much, although a method for getting the materials for Type 97 orbs that cannot be intercepted might finally get Tanya her cherished training posting and the access to the full WWI files from the SW universe as well as the interwar exercises and theories will give them an edge. Also worth saying that the SW tech cannot be completely given to the Empire regardless of what they pay, going by SW canon central Europe was conquered/burned by the neuroi and I'm betting with it they lost a lot of their population and industrial might. I can see the NotAmericans giving a few older P-40's or less relevant Avenger torpedo bombers and B-17's (remember strategic bombing with the Neuroi is blowing up your own cities and hope they won't regenerate so most bombing will be tactical and the 8th Air Force is going to be a shadow of its RL thunderous power) but things like meaningful amounts of P-51's or VT shells aren't going to happen without a lot of haggling.I am not sure,if Strike Witches technology would help Tanya Germany much.planes and tanks were no much better,and only 12-18y old girls could be witches.
But,Strike Witches world could use normal mages,if they onle are capable of hurting Neuroi.
Yeah, tech itself in limited quantities won't help the Empire that much, although a method for getting the materials for Type 97 orbs that cannot be intercepted might finally get Tanya her cherished training posting and the access to the full WWI files from the SW universe as well as the interwar exercises and theories will give them an edge. Also worth saying that the SW tech cannot be completely given to the Empire regardless of what they pay, going by SW canon central Europe was conquered/burned by the neuroi and I'm betting with it they lost a lot of their population and industrial might. I can see the NotAmericans giving a few older P-40's or less relevant Avenger torpedo bombers and B-17's (remember strategic bombing with the Neuroi is blowing up your own cities and hope they won't regenerate so most bombing will be tactical and the 8th Air Force is going to be a shadow of its RL thunderous power) but things like meaningful amounts of P-51's or VT shells aren't going to happen without a lot of haggling.
On the other hand at this point in YS canon there are many things that can tip the balance. A less serious fight for Arene might cancel Revolving Door since it won't be a credible disruption to Imperial Logistics. The escape fleet of the gallians getting hit by fifty torpedo bombers at a time AA guns were relatively rare and inaccurate (in the manga and light novel Tanya recommends buffing it to WWII levels) stopping the war is by now a common divergence point in fics. And if I want to delay the liberions from sending Mary Sue to upset things I can always create a diplomatic incident regarding them profitering by selling the Empire technologically advanced weapons and gems and have her expeditionary force stuck on New York for six months. Hell, part of me is willing to torture Tanya by having the Rus ally themselves with the Empire to conquer Africa, i just need to imagine a way for that to happen other than by a whim.
That said I should also clarify a detail. I'm working on the assumption that in YS the different countries will have at this point access to what at most is late 20's tech unless its plot critical and the inventor has an excuse such as 'I made years worth of calculations with a dozen mages trained in engineering and math using their orbs to break Enigma' or 'God put a blueprint in my head' so designs such as the Panzer III/IV, british Hurricane planes, North Carolina BBs and other anachronism will not be there only for rule of cool. In fact, considering that this WWI is very different to ours I might get to disappear specific pieces of postwar tech that were created specifically to solve a trench warfare problem.
Likewise in the SW universe most of the WWII tech created during the conflict will be very different and not always useful for fighting humans. Ultra Intelligence for example isn't even program in SW since Enigma is used by New Karsland, some of the most steadfast allies of the League of Nations and the money is used to puzzle how neuroi talk with each other. The M10 and M18 Tank Destroyers were never a thing because Liberion didn't feel the need to have a counter to panzer breaking the frontline to perform deep raids, so rather they doubled down on the M4.
There still are heavy bombers such as the Lancaster or B-24 but they are required in lesser numbers because the attempted bombings against the Nests were costly and literally did more damage to humanity than to the neuroi. Likewise everyone is keeping their ASW gear safely stored for when submarines (sans torpedoes) can be used for other things that moving supplies to areas cut off by the neuroi.
SW Gallia helps the YS Empire mostly because they're desperate. While I agree that saying depopulate central europe rather than burning it is more accurate, fact is that in the Luminous Witches anime we see that the Neuroi weren't all that careful with the cities, with the Eiffel Tower being scrap metal for example, and at least half of the country was occupied by killer aliens and I'm guessing a good part of their surviving population is in refugee camps, in the military or working in factories or the fields 24/7 just to sustain the soldiers, all in all a worst place that the WWII France.Good ideas,about Neuroi burning Central Europe - i think,that they "only" genocided all people there, forests and most building should be still there.
From some point of viev,Neuroi could be considered as aliens saving Earth ecosystem from humans.
Not that it made them nice,but - i doubt,tat they be destroy forests or kill animals if they do not want eat them.
P.S Considering that bigger Neuroi have kind of power field,it do not matter what normal soldiers use,becouse it would not work anyway.Well,except battleship schells.
P.P.S Why SW Gallia help Empire which fight YS Gallia ?
SW Gallia helps the YS Empire mostly because they're desperate. While I agree that saying depopulate central europe rather than burning it is more accurate, fact is that in the Luminous Witches anime we see that the Neuroi weren't all that careful with the cities, with the Eiffel Tower being scrap metal for example, and at least half of the country was occupied by killer aliens and I'm guessing a good part of their surviving population is in refugee camps, in the military or working in factories or the fields 24/7 just to sustain the soldiers, all in all a worst place that the WWII France.
They are not enthusiastic to help the Empire, but they aren't the same kind of existential threat to their dimensional cousins that the Neuroi and in fact the YS Gallia started the war with an unprovoked attack on the Empire so even complaining about giving military aid to them is hard without sounding as hypocrites, in particular since the Empire isn't the Nazis, they are harsh on their occupation (as WWI Germany, no more and no less) but not mosters.
The best Gallia can do is to claim they don't have anything to spare in terms of military gear, which is true, and to quietly suggest that the Empire looks for a reasonable and just negociated peace.
Edit: I'll try to include the feelings of the Gallians in the next snippet.
With me is the exact opposite. Why wouldn't normal humans with machine guns, antitank weapons and other weapons wouldn't be able to kill Neuroi when the witches do so with ease even in the cases their magic power is not used to improve their bullets? It's not their fault that the anime writers decided to show only them being slaughtered in order to highlight how awesome Strike Witches are.Seems reasonable.To be honest,considering what Neuroi was doing,even monsters like Hitler,Sralin or Mao would be better choice.
If i was in SW Gallia shoes,i would sign anytching to get YS magic.And have all prototypes that YS could need.
P.S i always laught when i saw normal SW infrantry attacking neuroi,when they had notching to damage them.
To be honest,their armies should be made only from tanks,artillery and engineers..Maybe attack planes,too.
Well,i would prefer if they used only AT rifles and later baazokas.Yes,witches use sometimes HMG,but usually it is either 0.50 or 20mm.And,they are magically enchanted.With me is the exact opposite. Why wouldn't normal humans with machine guns, antitank weapons and other weapons wouldn't be able to kill Neuroi when the witches do so with ease even in the cases their magic power is not used to improve their bullets? It's not their fault that the anime writers decided to show only them being slaughtered in order to highlight how awesome Strike Witches are.
If anything the advantage of the average witch is not offensive power, its the ability of their shields to withstand their beams long enough to find and shoot the core while the Neuroi true advantage over humans is not that they're bulletproof, in fact they're surprisingly fragile and enough machine gun fire can dig until their squishy center while even a light tank would laugh at such paltry firepower, but the fact that the larger units regenerate fast and have comparatively small cores so focusing enough firepower to kill them is hard, particularly since their beams will kill soldiers by platoons.
At least for this fic human infantry can and does win against neuroi, even if at a great cost, which is why I wrote the interlude where human troops are an important part of a Land Witch detachment, even if witches still do far more by comparison.
Actually most aerial witches use light machine guns such as the MG42s for the NotGerman or the BARs and M1919A6 for the NotAmerican, with rifle ammunition, of the Strike Witches only Lynn uses a Boys rifle although their rocket armament is far more powerful, with the fliegerhammer and panzerfausts being true antitank rockets. There is at least one neuroi killed by a single shot FP-45 Liberator in the anime Brave Witches but to be fair that one was softened up beforehand and the gun itself was shot directly to the core at point blank range.Well,i would prefer if they used only AT rifles and later baazokas.Yes,witches use sometimes HMG,but usually it is either 0.50 or 20mm.And,they are magically enchanted.
But - you are baron in your story,so you decide what could be done.
You are right,they use LMG.So,infrantry LMG could work,too.Even then - there should send infrantry with LMG teams only,becouse there is no point to send dudes with normal rifles.Actually most aerial witches use light machine guns such as the MG42s for the NotGerman or the BARs and M1919A6 for the NotAmerican, with rifle ammunition, of the Strike Witches only Lynn uses a Boys rifle although their rocket armament is far more powerful, with the fliegerhammer and panzerfausts being true antitank rockets. There is at least one neuroi killed by a single shot FP-45 Liberator in the anime Brave Witches but to be fair that one was softened up beforehand and the gun itself was shot directly to the core at point blank range.