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It's really bloody annoying how people keep simping for Tito just because he kept the Balkans together.

Like, he kept it together in the same sense a prison keeps people together. The various ethnic groups still hated each other, it's just that they were way more scared of being tortured to death alongside their families if they defied him.

It was always going to end badly once he died. Nations can't be forged with just fear and force.

If you want an actual modern historical dictator who managed to unify a dozen different cultures, Lee Kuan Yew is right there. His results are infinitely better than whatever Tito's secret police ever managed.
 
Can't imagine why the partisan leader turned autocrat who prevented genocidal bloodletting for decades and turned a bombed out barely industrialized mountain range into one of the centers of the Unaligned Movement in a region whose name has become a byword for "fragmented, unstable, anarchic and dangerous" and kept the standard of living so high that both Soviet and NATO overtures of political manipulation failed to take root.

It's a fucking mystery that only South Slavs will understand, I guess.
 
NuclearBird said:
Can't imagine why the partisan leader turned autocrat who prevented genocidal bloodletting for decades and turned a bombed out barely industrialized mountain range into one of the centers of the Unaligned Movement in a region whose name has become a byword for "fragmented, unstable, anarchic and dangerous" and kept the standard of living so high that both Soviet and NATO overtures of political manipulation failed to take root.

It's a fucking mystery that only South Slavs will understand, I guess.
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This is definitely rule 8 bait.
 
Savinkov said:
This is definitely rule 8 bait.
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Yugoslavia collapsed more than 20 years ago, the Balkans became the source of the meme when the Ottomans first pulled back from Southern Europe in the early 1900s before WW1, Tito's rise to power was in the 40s-50s and the rest is just me repeating Treble's own words topped off with enough sarcasm to make even the most autistic child understand that it's meant to mock Treble's question containing the knowledge that answers itself.
 
NuclearBird said:
Yugoslavia collapsed more than 20 years ago, the Balkans became the source of the meme when the Ottomans first pulled back from Southern Europe in the early 1900s before WW1, Tito's rise to power was in the 40s-50s and the rest is just me repeating Treble's own words topped off with enough sarcasm to make even the most autistic child understand that it's meant to mock Treble's question containing the knowledge that answers itself.
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I forgot I had treble on ignore, so it seemed like this had came out of nowhere.
 
NuclearBird said:
Can't imagine why the partisan leader turned autocrat who prevented genocidal bloodletting for decades and turned a bombed out barely industrialized mountain range into one of the centers of the Unaligned Movement in a region whose name has become a byword for "fragmented, unstable, anarchic and dangerous" and kept the standard of living so high that both Soviet and NATO overtures of political manipulation failed to take root.....what?

It's a fucking mystery that only South Slavs will understand, I guess.
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You didn't finish that sentence, but never mind. My point is that he didn't really create peace, he just monopolized the violence through a reign of terror.

His model was bound to collapse in the short run after his death. What else could happen when the only thing keeping everyone from killing each other is the fear that they (and their families) might disappear in the night?
 
Treble said:
You didn't finish that sentence, but never mind. My point is that he didn't really create peace, he just monopolized the violence through a reign of terror.

His model was bound to collapse in the short run after his death. What else could happen when the only thing keeping everyone from killing each other is the fear that they (and their families) might disappear in the night?
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As an ugly American who knows little of this particular conflict, it sounds like you're making the perfect the enemy of the good enough. Or, at least, that you don't understand why anyone would be happy with good enough instead of a hypothetical better.
 
Idle query. Who else here often also (mis)uses their own emotions/moods for various purposes? Such as deliberately losing your temper for more physical strength/energy?
 
Amazon Climber said:
As an ugly American who knows little of this particular conflict, it sounds like you're making the perfect the enemy of the good enough. Or, at least, that you don't understand why anyone would be happy with good enough instead of a hypothetical better.
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It's more that I don't get why he gets so much hype on the internet when Lee is right there. From all accounts, Tito just operated a giant occupation zone. Lee ran an actual country.
 
NuclearBird said:
Yugoslavia collapsed more than 20 years ago, the Balkans became the source of the meme when the Ottomans first pulled back from Southern Europe in the early 1900s before WW1, Tito's rise to power was in the 40s-50s and the rest is just me repeating Treble's own words topped off with enough sarcasm to make even the most autistic child understand that it's meant to mock Treble's question containing the knowledge that answers itself.
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Apparently, asking gpt to write about roman legionnaires receiving Napoleonic artillery fire is too much for it
 
Just re-watched Legend of the Guardians, that owl movie by Zack Snyder, after seeing PointlessHub's video on it, and I gotta say there is something oddly compelling about animals having not just Human-level sapience, but also an actual civilization, complete with art, tools, and so on, to go along with it, rather than being just normal animals that happen to be able to talk and only have an oral tradition.

Here they have goddamn literature. They forge metal. Eat your heart out, Warrior Cats.

Sure, the movie has some plot problems, and the jokes fall flat, but in terms of action scenes, visual design, and the physical worldbuilding around the owls, like how their furniture looks like, it's pretty neat.
 
Saw a joke about loot drops in real life.

That's your Will, I thought.

Second thought: How to destroy a shitty family in your wake: force them to roll Need Before Greed to see who gets what from your Will.
 
Scygnus said:
Saw a joke about loot drops in real life.

That's your Will, I thought.

Second thought: How to destroy a shitty family in your wake: force them to roll Need Before Greed to see who gets what from your Will.
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Lament. That will already happen on its own, don't you worry. Inheritance lawsuits are depressingly common affairs, with the wake I personally attended having a screaming match (incl. legal threats) erupt right in front of the casket.

Those that truly Need will get nothing once lawyer budgets get involved.
 
I just realized I am going to be the last member in my family to have written letters.

Apres Moi, Le Gmail.
 
Treble said:
I just realized I am going to be the last member in my family to have written letters.

Apres Moi, Le Gmail.
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My nephew still writes letters. Sure they're little kid letters, but it lights up the extended family's lives when they get them.

Be the change you want to see in the world, even if that change is just convincing a bored kid to try something new.
 
Amazon Climber said:
My nephew still writes letters. Sure they're little kid letters, but it lights up the extended family's lives when they get them.

Be the change you want to see in the world, even if that change is just convincing a bored kid to try something new.
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I write letters to my young relatives, too.

The key to getting letters back seems to be including a stamped, self-addressed envelope.
 
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