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It's just that everybody in JJBA is too dumb to know what a laser is, and is probably just making noises at each other anyways(being too stupid to actually talk).
This is what happens when people make a calculation that relies on everybody involved being too stupid to breathe. The very context established by the characters is questioned on the grounds of their staggering stupidity. If you're too dumb to use your FTL fists to punch a guy in his laser eye before it fires when he's announced he's firing his laser eye at you(and he's also dumb enough to announce he's firing his laser eye at you), and you are assumed to not be a vegetable relative to other characters, the guy with the laser eye is by extension rendered so stupid his claim of his laser eye being a laser eye is moot because he'd believe he had a laser eye if someone celotaped a live chicken to his face.
Ugh, Versus people. I don't know what horrible Platonic cesspit they live in where intelligence is defined by how closely one adheres to what they declare to be practical and cool, but I almost hope they all have children. See how long they hold on to that assurance of authority and cleverness after that.iamnuff said:oh god, I just saw something on SB that reminded me of the "The World is FTL" discussion we had near the start of this thread.
It's not really on topic, but I just had to come here and share it.
http://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/raiden-mgrr-vs-cars-jjba.259597/#post-10840881 <--- link to thread.
Well, hang on, is it conscious on her part, or is it an area of effect thing that just happens around her and she can't turn it off? Because they may have a point if it's the latter.Ronall said:Not nearly the dumbest thing I heard in a VS debate before, or even that involving JJBA. I honestly read an argument where someone tried to claim that Asuna from Negima would beat Gold Experience Requiem, because her anti-magic could cancel out its reality warping.
iamnuff said:well, if you could move fast enough to block Lazors with your hands, then standing around waiting for someone to say "imma shoot you with my nazi eye lazor" is pretty stupid.
Kars probably wanted to judge exactly how refined/powerful the laser was; he isn't the kind of guy who stresses out over a little physical damage if it's obtained in the pursuit of science.iamnuff said:well, if you could move fast enough to block Lazors with your hands, then standing around waiting for someone to say "imma shoot you with my nazi eye lazor" is pretty stupid.
With about as much justification, honestly. Kars is pretty damn durable even before becoming the Ultimate Wubform.Fellgar said:
I don't recall there being an actual definition, but Magic and Ki are two distinct energy types, and I don't recall her ever cancelling out Ki. Also IIRC, Stands in Jojo were stated to be psychic powers. Basically the guy tried to use the equivilancy rule to make Stands = Magic, and then that her Anti-Magic would basically cancel Stands.FurikoMaru said:Well, hang on, is it conscious on her part, or is it an area of effect thing that just happens around her and she can't turn it off? Because they may have a point if it's the latter.
Even so... I'd hesitate to call anything in JJBA magic in the normal sense. The setting is made of "SCIENCE!", with increasingly larger quotation marks the more bullshit the abilities get.
What's the definition of magic in Negima?
The kanji used when Stands are first introduced spell yuumon, or roughly 'ghost ripple'. I think of them like an outward expression of a person's personality and desires, in which case psychic powers would be the closest description.Ronall said:I don't recall there being an actual definition, but Magic and Ki are two distinct energy types, and I don't recall her ever cancelling out Ki. Also IIRC, Stands in Jojo were stated to be psychic powers.
Quite. I like how that criticism highlights one of Straights' own flaws - his inability to think big-picture. What the hell was his plan for after he very publicly killed Joseph and half a dozen other people? Did he think Santana would just leave him be?Ronall said:Take note that Straights critisized Dio in part 2, for being too busy trying to figure out how his vampire powers worked, rather than trying to kill Jonathan as qickly as he could, so it's actually in character.