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[RWBY] No Victory in Strength (Minecraft Jaune)

Hm, what do you guys think of Coco? Did she come off as any worse than Ironwood, Blake, or Weiss?
Hm.

What she wanted from Jaune was relatively insignificant compared to what Ironwood, Weiss, and Blake want from him - which is literally everything, in the service of their respective causes.

But those causes are, one and all, born from a noble desire, even Ironwood's desire to power up Atlas, whereas Coco's wish for Infinity Enchantments on her and Velvets weapons is much more selfish.

Then there's the fact that Coco got Jaune to agree to some Enchantments, but pushed for more while having no way to pay him and make it a transaction as opposed to essentially a favor from a celebrity she tracked down on the street explicitly to ask that favor of them. Pretty entitled.

Ironwood would make him a national hero at the least, if not straight give him the Kingdom if he agreed to move to Atlas, and B&W are offering themselves to get him in their side.

All told, I'd put her about on par with Ironwood, but definitely worse off than Blake and Weiss.
 
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Someone posted fhis on spacebattles:

"Operative Schnee, your kingdom needs you."

"Certainly General. I'm combat ready!"

"This will be a mission unlike any you've undertaken before. The target will be a hard nut to crack."

"No problem, General. As you know, I scored perfectly in Atlas's Enhanced Interrogation Class."

"Um, yes. But this will require a different sort of skill set. This is Jaune Arc. We need him working for Atlas. As you rank number one in the hottest Atlas soldiers list multiple years in a--."

"I'm sorry, the what list?"

"... Never mind that for now. Back to Jaune Arc. Atlas needs him. Your mission, should you choose to accept, is to seduce him to our side by any means necessary."

"B-but, sir. I've never even gone on a date. I have no idea--"

"That's what research is for, Specialist. I'll authorize any expenses or resources you'll need. Do you accept?"

"... Yes sir. I'll do my part."

"Excellent. Operation Winter is coming is a-go!"


I talked to the commissioner about this and he was open to the idea :p I had two choices: Winter is somehow even WORSE than Weiss with this or she watches movies/lower ranked grunts and acts like a fratbro soldier who tries to get Jaune interested by chugging beer and acting like a college student on spring break.

In the former, she's another kind of trainwreck. Remember Weiss dropping the handkerchief? Winter thinks ten second eye contact makes it OBVIOUS she's open to be courted by him. Then she's shocked he doesn't get the hint. She stared into his eyes for more than a moment outside the work setting!

Hm.

What she wanted from Jaune was relatively insignificant compared to what Ironwood, Weiss, and Blake want from him - which is literally everything, in the service of their respective causes.

But those causes are, one and all, born from a noble desire, even Ironwood's desire to power up Atlas, whereas Coco's wish for Infinity Enchantments on her and Velvets weapons is much more selfish.

Then there's the fact that Coco got Jaune to agree to some Enchantments, but pushed for more while having no way to pay him and make it a transaction as opposed to essentially a favor from a celebrity she tracked down on the street explicitly to ask that favor of them. Pretty entitled.

Ironwood would make him a national hero at the least, if not straight give him the Kingdom if he agreed to move to Atlas, and B&W are offering themselves to get him in their side.

All told, I'd put her about on par with Ironwood, but definitely worse off than Blake and Weiss.

I wonder how she'd react if Jaune gave upgrades to Velvet - because she arguably NEEDS it - but not her? Would she be cool with it since at least Bun-Bun is getting a boost or still try to find a way to get it for herself too?
 
Someone posted fhis on spacebattles:

"Operative Schnee, your kingdom needs you."

"Certainly General. I'm combat ready!"

"This will be a mission unlike any you've undertaken before. The target will be a hard nut to crack."

"No problem, General. As you know, I scored perfectly in Atlas's Enhanced Interrogation Class."

"Um, yes. But this will require a different sort of skill set. This is Jaune Arc. We need him working for Atlas. As you rank number one in the hottest Atlas soldiers list multiple years in a--."

"I'm sorry, the what list?"

"... Never mind that for now. Back to Jaune Arc. Atlas needs him. Your mission, should you choose to accept, is to seduce him to our side by any means necessary."

"B-but, sir. I've never even gone on a date. I have no idea--"

"That's what research is for, Specialist. I'll authorize any expenses or resources you'll need. Do you accept?"

"... Yes sir. I'll do my part."

"Excellent. Operation Winter is coming is a-go!"


I talked to the commissioner about this and he was open to the idea :p I had two choices: Winter is somehow even WORSE than Weiss with this or she watches movies/lower ranked grunts and acts like a fratbro soldier who tries to get Jaune interested by chugging beer and acting like a college student on spring break.

In the former, she's another kind of trainwreck. Remember Weiss dropping the handkerchief? Winter thinks ten second eye contact makes it OBVIOUS she's open to be courted by him. Then she's shocked he doesn't get the hint. She stared into his eyes for more than a moment outside the work setting!



I wonder how she'd react if Jaune gave upgrades to Velvet - because she arguably NEEDS it - but not her? Would she be cool with it since at least Bun-Bun is getting a boost or still try to find a way to get it for herself too?
Given her behavior, she'd probably shoot her shot again and ask for more lol

And does the first part mean Winter is part of the harem? If so, sweet.

All told that comes out to...

Yang, Pyrrha, Ruby, Winter, Weiss, and Blake?
 
Given her behavior, she'd probably shoot her shot again and ask for more lol

And does the first part mean Winter is part of the harem? If so, sweet.

All told that comes out to...

Yang, Pyrrha, Ruby, Winter, Weiss, and Blake?

Nit sure. I imagine she tries to flirt with Jaune as part of her mission but fails utterly so she doesn't really count. Cinder might try seductiin as well and Jaune DEFINITELY isn't gonna go for a mass murdering sociopatj.
 
I'm surprised that coco didn't offer to help get the needed materials, she's a huntress so she should be more than ready to get her hands dirty for such a boon.
 
In Coco's case, she needs to think of a way to help Jaune acquire materials, including those he can't easily get ahold of or aren't available in his kingdom. I'm assuming not everything in Remnant is easily accessible in every region or else Menagerie wouldn't be as poor as it is. What resources would she have access to that Jaune's kingdom wouldn't?

As for her own skills, an overlooked skill she probably has is that for fashion, she knows what works and what doesn't. She should then also know for stuff like armor what is fashionably practical, aka efficient, so that there's not too much clutter for an armor system that can snag on things or limit the wearer's mobility or flexibility. Rather than asking for stuff right away, offer to help in areas Jaune finds himself (somehow) lacking or not quite up to snuff. He'd be more liable to help someone already helping him than help someone who has yet to prove themselves in helping him.

Winter? Jaune's already on that grindset enough to miss cues from RWBY, even though he has experience with girls in his home area throwing themselves at him. My guess is if Winter tries to win him over, he'll either not notice it (to her frustration) or he'll try to politely decline, which could go either way of making her try harder for Atlas or she falls for him and tries harder for herself.

I'm curious what other dimensions Jaune has access to other than the Nether, Never-After and Monster Hunter and the resources within.
 
I'm surprised that coco didn't offer to help get the needed materials, she's a huntress so she should be more than ready to get her hands dirty for such a boon.

I think it's still a question of ego. If it was killing Grimm or doing Huntress things, sure, but Jaune made it sound like gathering materials was pure busywork. Let's say you wanted a diamond ring. Most people wouldn't offer to the mines and dig a diamond out themselves. They'd just offer more money. Coco, like James, just didn't understand that she cannot bribe Jaune with money cash, or connections because she's used to being able to use it to get what she wants. Mostly because she didn't see Domremy like Team RWBY did and get it through her head just how much Jaune does not need that stuff.

In Coco's case, she needs to think of a way to help Jaune acquire materials, including those he can't easily get ahold of or aren't available in his kingdom. I'm assuming not everything in Remnant is easily accessible in every region or else Menagerie wouldn't be as poor as it is. What resources would she have access to that Jaune's kingdom wouldn't?

As for her own skills, an overlooked skill she probably has is that for fashion, she knows what works and what doesn't. She should then also know for stuff like armor what is fashionably practical, aka efficient, so that there's not too much clutter for an armor system that can snag on things or limit the wearer's mobility or flexibility. Rather than asking for stuff right away, offer to help in areas Jaune finds himself (somehow) lacking or not quite up to snuff. He'd be more liable to help someone already helping him than help someone who has yet to prove themselves in helping him.

Winter? Jaune's already on that grindset enough to miss cues from RWBY, even though he has experience with girls in his home area throwing themselves at him. My guess is if Winter tries to win him over, he'll either not notice it (to her frustration) or he'll try to politely decline, which could go either way of making her try harder for Atlas or she falls for him and tries harder for herself.

I'm curious what other dimensions Jaune has access to other than the Nether, Never-After and Monster Hunter and the resources within.

Coco does offer fashion via the Adel brand, even noting that they have a catalogue specifically for fashionable and practical. Jaune said no. One thing I'm doing is emphasizing the differences from those who live in kingdoms versus those who live outside the walls. For the latter, luxuries such as fashion, the latest entertainment, and other 'first world country' stuff just isn't considered that important. What people outside the walls care about are safety and assurances that Grimm won't maul them. Everything else is a bonus. They'd appreciate them, but they can live without them. Ozpin notes this as well by saying Solitas settlements trade services and luxury goods for food and supplies.

It's implied that Jaune's Semblance allows him to gather materials at a breakneck and generous pace. For example, the diamond stuff. Jaune has enough diamond swords and armor that he can afford to just give one to Weiss or use an armor piece as a target dummy. If there was a diamond mind that generous that anyone can harvest, it would've already been filled with people mining. It's just that some materials are only present in specific dimensions or have low spawn rates even for him. The Ever After materials being difficult to get makes sense given that it's a fairytale land where the abstract and impossible can be gotten. Jinxie Peddler somehow quantifies hope in a bottle, for example. Much rarer than diamonds.

Yeah, Winter's gonna fail hard lol. She'll definitely try and shoot her shot, but yeah, she's just trying to fulfill her mission.
 
...I wanna write this cat for Minecraft Jaune:

 
I think it's still a question of ego. If it was killing Grimm or doing Huntress things, sure, but Jaune made it sound like gathering materials was pure busywork. Let's say you wanted a diamond ring. Most people wouldn't offer to the mines and dig a diamond out themselves. They'd just offer more money. Coco, like James, just didn't understand that she cannot bribe Jaune with money cash, or connections because she's used to being able to use it to get what she wants. Mostly because she didn't see Domremy like Team RWBY did and get it through her head just how much Jaune does not need that stuff.

That makes some sense, though I'm surprised that she isn't interested in the processes involved in upgrading her weapon, or at least not enough to ask some basic questions about it.

And I'm surprised that she's the type of person to use her connections as a blunt object, though i guess she was not in her right mind and panicking...
 
That makes some sense, though I'm surprised that she isn't interested in the processes involved in upgrading her weapon, or at least not enough to ask some basic questions about it.

And I'm surprised that she's the type of person to use her connections as a blunt object, though i guess she was not in her right mind and panicking...

Coco is actually pretty egotistical. She doesn't really show it in the show, but the novels show she has a problem with it. She's a controlling leader, something Yatsuhashi and Fox resent. Likewise she has an inflated opinion of herself and her team. When Team SSSN offers to help CFVY with a mission, she rejects them then mentally says that she thinks that they're a second-rate team trying to latch onto a group that are better than they are. Scarlet calls her out on it and her team don't defend her either.

Same deal here. The first line we get from her is 'Coco Adel was someone used to getting what she wanted'. While she's still better off than Cardin, and she legitimately does want to do good, she's still an egotistical glory seeker with an inflated sense of self. She was offered triple-shot despite just meeting Jaune and she still couldn't help herself from trying to get more. As she says, she doesn't go for second place. And being from a fashion dynasty means that she's never really had to deal with being told no.

As for basic questions. Well, it's indicated that caring about your weapon's intricacies is actually not common among Huntsmen. Ruby being such a weapon fanatic seems like it makes her an outlier. While Coco is proud of Gianduja, I imagine she commissioned it. She doesn't really care HOW it gets done, especially since she sees Jaune pulling miracles out of his ass. All that matters to her is that it's done for her and Velvet. Ruby being so interested in the finer details is the reason why Jaune is so fond of her and why she's the first girl to win the Jaunebowl. Everyone else sees his Minecraft abilities and focuses on what they can get out of it. Ruby's the only one truly interested in the mechanics and crafting part.
 
Questions:

1. Who do you guys wanna see interact with Jaune next and why? Either a character or a faction as a whole? The commissioner has final say, of course, but I'm curious all the same. Maybe the White Fang now that Ironwood (and Atlas by extension) had their shot?

2. Do you guys think Jaune should've agreed to go all-in on empowering Atlas like Ironwood wanted or was he right to say no?

1/ More Yang time with Jaune? maybe that news reporter woman (interviewing the newest king on the block), the common joe/jane on the streets reaction might be good to see.

2/ He made the right choice of telling Jimmy no, he has set the boundaries, Jimmy now knows he can't just bark orders and make demands and expect them followed, he's talking to an equal not a minion, it will be good for both of them in the long run.
 

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