Shitpost??? Should I make a super fat isekai mc?

[Imperium]

So I am thinking the mc is a 6'5ft tall man that's over 600 pounds. He get's summoned somehow into a demiplane, plane or world with no food. By the time he figures out how to escape to another universe or parrallel earth he has lost almost all his fat from starvation revealing the musclature of a body builder underneath. This leads into multicross. I know it's a very rough idea but I want to know if it is worth pursuing?

 

[humon]

There would have to be at least some food, or he would be dead after 3 weeks; or if not dead, he would look like an Auschwitz survivor. But something like this could happen if there was still some food, just not enough to sustain his weight, or if all the food was in a raw form and he had no means of cooking it, so that he couldn't get enough calories in a day compared to his old lifestyle. I recall hearing a story about a guy who tried to survive on an island with just the clothes on his back, and after a few months he had lost about 100 pounds (like he was 250 pounds going in, and 150 pounds coming out).

He wouldn't look like a body builder afterward. He would probably be lean and wiry. Bodybuilding requires a carefully controlled diet and hours spent in the gym every day, and it's nearly impossible to do under a caloric deficit. Starvation consumes both muscle and fat, though you can retain some of the muscle or slow down the loss of it if you're working hard at the same time. The body will avoid consuming any tissue that is essential, for as long as it can get away with it. If you see photos of ordinary people in the 19th century or early 20th century, who were working all day with their hands and eating just enough to survive, they weren't going to win any bodybuilding competitions, though they could probably handle themselves in a fight well enough. He might have the equivalent of 'old man strength', where his muscles wouldn't be all that impressive looking, but dense enough to still provide a lot of power despite his looks, just like with an old man who works hard all the time and is strong but not big.

You can also pay attention to photos of hunter-gatherer tribes in Africa or elsewhere, where the people have stark muscle definition as a result of their subsistence diet and having to work all day. They're not jacked up like gym bros or anything, but they look lean and cut, like professional athletes. That's how human beings were meant to look in our natural environment, before civilization made it possible to overindulge or become lazy. So he could definitely achieve that if the situation was that food was scarce and random, and he had to work hard to get it (or at least, work hard to get the best food, meat, while his wife is gathering up the more plentiful roots and nuts for him so he can still eat if he fails at the hunt -- though at 600 pounds, he'd be failing the hunt more often than not, so he might have to start by just gathering for himself, until he's lean enough to move swiftly and shoot a bow and run long distances -- maybe he'd have better luck with the neanderthal form of hunting, which was ambushing large animals with spears in close quarters and overpowering them with numbers -- a 6'5" 600lb dude wrangling a prehistoric buck and trying to choke it out would be fun to imagine).

 

[Soupervan]

Eh, might not do so well. After all there are only a handful of fictional fatties that are popular, King Pin or Fred Dukes from Marvel for example are often fat but strong underneath it. Might as well take advantage of their popularity and do a self-insert or OC-insert, and if you want him elsewhere have the Ancient One show up and banish the trespasser.

As for sending someone fat to somewhere with absolutely no food... maybe if there's some form of radiation that he can feed off of or give him some kind of superpower- some somewhat reasonable explanation why he doesn't die. Even assuming the fat person doesn't die from hunger there's still malnutrition after all.

 

[Imperium]

There would have to be at least some food, or he would be dead after 3 weeks; or if not dead, he would look like an Auschwitz survivor. But something like this could happen if there was still some food, just not enough to sustain his weight, or if all the food was in a raw form and he had no means of cooking it, so that he couldn't get enough calories in a day compared to his old lifestyle. I recall hearing a story about a guy who tried to survive on an island with just the clothes on his back, and after a few months he had lost about 100 pounds (like he was 250 pounds going in, and 150 pounds coming out).

He wouldn't look like a body builder afterward. He would probably be lean and wiry. Bodybuilding requires a carefully controlled diet and hours spent in the gym every day, and it's nearly impossible to do under a caloric deficit. Starvation consumes both muscle and fat, though you can retain some of the muscle or slow down the loss of it if you're working hard at the same time. The body will avoid consuming any tissue that is essential, for as long as it can get away with it. If you see photos of ordinary people in the 19th century or early 20th century, who were working all day with their hands and eating just enough to survive, they weren't going to win any bodybuilding competitions, though they could probably handle themselves in a fight well enough. He might have the equivalent of 'old man strength', where his muscles wouldn't be all that impressive looking, but dense enough to still provide a lot of power despite his looks, just like with an old man who works hard all the time and is strong but not big.

You can also pay attention to photos of hunter-gatherer tribes in Africa or elsewhere, where the people have stark muscle definition as a result of their subsistence diet and having to work all day. They're not jacked up like gym bros or anything, but they look lean and cut, like professional athletes. That's how human beings were meant to look in our natural environment, before civilization made it possible to overindulge or become lazy. So he could definitely achieve that if the situation was that food was scarce and random, and he had to work hard to get it (or at least, work hard to get the best food, meat, while his wife is gathering up the more plentiful roots and nuts for him so he can still eat if he fails at the hunt -- though at 600 pounds, he'd be failing the hunt more often than not, so he might have to start by just gathering for himself, until he's lean enough to move swiftly and shoot a bow and run long distances -- maybe he'd have better luck with the neanderthal form of hunting, which was ambushing large animals with spears in close quarters and overpowering them with numbers -- a 6'5" 600lb dude wrangling a prehistoric buck and trying to choke it out would be fun to imagine).

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What if he used to be a body builder who got super out of shape and gained all that weight? Like from depression or something?

Eh, might not do so well. After all there are only a handful of fictional fatties that are popular, King Pin or Fred Dukes from Marvel for example are often fat but strong underneath it. Might as well take advantage of their popularity and do a self-insert or OC-insert, and if you want him elsewhere have the Ancient One show up and banish the trespasser.

As for sending someone fat to somewhere with absolutely no food... maybe if there's some form of radiation that he can feed off of or give him some kind of superpower- some somewhat reasonable explanation why he doesn't die. Even assuming the fat person doesn't die from hunger there's still malnutrition after all.

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I mean he doesn't have to be a superstar or anything. That said what if he reincarnated as the kingpin's son before he got found by the ancient one and banished from the Marvel Multiverse? At like age 18 or his early 20s or something?

 

[humon]

If he had been ripped earlier, it makes it a bit easier to return to that state later, but he'd still have to work at it. The main issue is that when a person starves, all unnecessary tissue gets consumed first, which includes both fat and muscle (and then ultimately the brain and internal organs when there's nothing else left). So if he's going to be ripped at the end I would see it as happening in three stages:

1. Starvation, where he loses huge amounts of weight, dropping down to say 200-250 pounds.
2. Building muscle back up, which requires a surplus of food while doing a lot of lifting, which might bring him up to 300 pounds for a guy who's 6'5".
3. Cutting the residual fat with a controlled diet so that the muscle definition stands out, dropping him down closer to 200, like a heavyweight boxer.

If he was a bodybuilder in the past, steps 2 and 3 should be easy for him, going from memory, as long as he has the right equipment and access to food, and of course enough free time and dedication to stick to his plan. That he got obese in the first place suggests that he might have a problem with sticking to any plan. Guys who just get lazy or depressed might end up packing on 30-50 pounds and looking like Fat Thor, but to become 600 pounds takes a special kind of not giving a fuck and just consuming everything edible in sight with no self-restraint.

Or maybe there was some other reason, like he was afflicted with some disease that made his appetite insatiable, who knows. A demon of Gluttony possessed him. A gypsy cursed him. In a world of magic, anything is possible.

Also you have to consider whether his skin would be elastic enough to tighten up around his slimmer form, or if he'd be left with folds of skin hanging off him like drapes. The younger he is, the more likely he'll return to form. If he's over 30, he might be screwed.

One example you can look at is the actor, Christian Bale, who became completely emaciated for his role in The Machinist in 2004, and then in 2005 he bulked up again so he could play Batman. And according to the director he initially showed up on the set well overweight, to where the stage crew were worried the costumes wouldn't fit, and then he radically cut the fat to end up in the shape that you see him in the movie.

 

[Soupervan]

What if he used to be a body builder who got super out of shape and gained all that weight? Like from depression or something?


I mean he doesn't have to be a superstar or anything. That said what if he reincarnated as the kingpin's son before he got found by the ancient one and banished from the Marvel Multiverse? At like age 18 or his early 20s or something?

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A bodybuilder fallen into depression and binge eating from... say, a failed relationship, a tragedy that ended up with his whole family dead or some such might make the story interesting, sure.

And I agree that the fat person doesn't have to be a superstar- it's just that it's rare for fictional fat people to be liked by the general public, I can count the popular ones I know of on both hands with fingers left over and I'm including bit parts like Fat bastard from Austin Powers. So if it doesn't have to be some random guy using an already famous figure will only help you gain more readers.


The son of King Pin would work- it's pretty much fanon that King Pin is a mutant or a mutate or otherwise empowered, he's strong enough to fight Spider-man after all though I don't think they ever go into detail how he's so strong. In any case his son would probably inherit his ability and thus be able to survive off of no or minimal food for an extended period, sure and it'd be the template of King Pin, so you'd still gain people reading it that are fans of Marvel me included probably.

 

[Imperium]

If he had been ripped earlier, it makes it a bit easier to return to that state later, but he'd still have to work at it. The main issue is that when a person starves, all unnecessary tissue gets consumed first, which includes both fat and muscle (and then ultimately the brain and internal organs when there's nothing else left). So if he's going to be ripped at the end I would see it as happening in three stages:

1. Starvation, where he loses huge amounts of weight, dropping down to say 200-250 pounds.
2. Building muscle back up, which requires a surplus of food while doing a lot of lifting, which might bring him up to 300 pounds for a guy who's 6'5".
3. Cutting the residual fat with a controlled diet so that the muscle definition stands out, dropping him down closer to 200, like a heavyweight boxer.

If he was a bodybuilder in the past, steps 2 and 3 should be easy for him, going from memory, as long as he has the right equipment and access to food, and of course enough free time and dedication to stick to his plan. That he got obese in the first place suggests that he might have a problem with sticking to any plan. Guys who just get lazy or depressed might end up packing on 30-50 pounds and looking like Fat Thor, but to become 600 pounds takes a special kind of not giving a fuck and just consuming everything edible in sight with no self-restraint.

Or maybe there was some other reason, like he was afflicted with some disease that made his appetite insatiable, who knows. A demon of Gluttony possessed him. A gypsy cursed him. In a world of magic, anything is possible.

Also you have to consider whether his skin would be elastic enough to tighten up around his slimmer form, or if he'd be left with folds of skin hanging off him like drapes. The younger he is, the more likely he'll return to form. If he's over 30, he might be screwed.

One example you can look at is the actor, Christian Bale, who became completely emaciated for his role in The Machinist in 2004, and then in 2005 he bulked up again so he could play Batman. And according to the director he initially showed up on the set well overweight, to where the stage crew were worried the costumes wouldn't fit, and then he radically cut the fat to end up in the shape that you see him in the movie.

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Thank you I appreciate the step by step process and detailed breakdown of what would be required as well as the example given. It helps me understand what kinds of steps I'd need to have the mc take. Gonna be honest though I was pretty tired and sleepy when I posted the original post very late at night. Lol. Still good to have though for if I choose to run with it.

A bodybuilder fallen into depression and binge eating from... say, a failed relationship, a tragedy that ended up with his whole family dead or some such might make the story interesting, sure.

And I agree that the fat person doesn't have to be a superstar- it's just that it's rare for fictional fat people to be liked by the general public, I can count the popular ones I know of on both hands with fingers left over and I'm including bit parts like Fat bastard from Austin Powers. So if it doesn't have to be some random guy using an already famous figure will only help you gain more readers.


The son of King Pin would work- it's pretty much fanon that King Pin is a mutant or a mutate or otherwise empowered, he's strong enough to fight Spider-man after all though I don't think they ever go into detail how he's so strong. In any case his son would probably inherit his ability and thus be able to survive off of no or minimal food for an extended period, sure and it'd be the template of King Pin, so you'd still gain people reading it that are fans of Marvel me included probably.

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Solid points. The fandom is important and the context would make it easier for the audience to swallow. Not to mention more feasible for the character physically. At least without giving them their own powers prior or bending the rules of fanon existence(nonexistence technically, lol.) with plot armor. I also appreciate the vote of confidence for that route. Not sure yet if I'll run with the idea yet, but I'm glad it draws some level of interest.

 

[Andy333]

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