The Force Always Says Yes [Star Wars]

[SirRolandTheFrank]

I would love to see exploration of the lesser force sects and orders, I think it'd be very interesting - and not oft-used Matukai, but say, the Dai-Bendu Monks or Kro Var (who are Darksiders, technically) who are all but forgotten by the fandom. Perhaps even Sorcerers of Tund (who specialise in illusions), who do not appear wholly unhinged. Or maybe a general tour of worlds important to the history of Force Users, like Lettow and Ossus and Sith Space? I'm very curious especially about the last one, since there's very little written on culture of the worlds which once were important Sith worlds, like Dromund Kaas or Thule. Are the locals revering the Ancient Force Lords of the Sith, raging and bemoaning that they cannot be like them in spite of trying, or have they moved on? Maybe some sort of ancestor worship, mixed with reverence of a central deity and coupled with genuine remorse for said ancestors' evil/misguided deeds, and actually trying to be better? The potential is truly endless!

 

[MemeKing]

I would love to see exploration of the lesser force sects and orders, I think it'd be very interesting - and not oft-used Matukai, but say, the Dai-Bendu Monks or Kro Var (who are Darksiders, technically) who are all but forgotten by the fandom. Perhaps even Sorcerers of Tund (who specialise in illusions), who do not appear wholly unhinged. Or maybe a general tour of worlds important to the history of Force Users, like Lettow and Ossus and Sith Space? I'm very curious especially about the last one, since there's very little written on culture of the worlds which once were important Sith worlds, like Dromund Kaas or Thule. Are the locals revering the Ancient Force Lords of the Sith, raging and bemoaning that they cannot be like them in spite of trying, or have they moved on? Maybe some sort of ancestor worship, mixed with reverence of a central deity and coupled with genuine remorse for said ancestors' evil/misguided deeds, and actually trying to be better? The potential is truly endless!

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They could realistically meet a bunch of these groups on Jedha, where the Convocation of the Force is based out of. This council has members of the Disciples of the Whills, the Fallanassi, the Lonto species, the Matukai, a single non-voting observer from the Jedi Order, The Guardians of the Whills, the Church of the Force, the Sorcerers of Tund, the Order of the Dai Bendu, and a single member to represent the smaller force sects.

Arwain, Nerim, and Tetha could go to the Temple of the Kyber on Jedha to get replacement Kyber crystals because I wouldn't be surprised if Arwain had a friend in the temple that would let them in. They could meet any one of these force sects or others while in the temple city.

 

[SirRolandTheFrank]

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I've assumed that this fic is happening in the Legends universe, not disney. I've no opinion on all the Disney Force Sects, Jeddha or the Convocation, but in Legends, kyber crystals can also be found on Dantooine and a whole bunch of other worlds (which Sidious looted, leading to NJO being forced to use synthetics for a long time iirc - but that's like 200 years into the future). They can be grown via a special machine called geological compressor when coupled with some ceremony/ritual and meditation; synthetic crystals are no worse that natural ones, and don't always have to be red - it doesn't take much effort to make ones of different colour. Given that Luke was able to grow one himself sometime after ESB(?), I assume that such a device isn't hard to find. A little bit of quasi-Sith alchemy hasn't hurt anyone (just like putting a lightsabre together with the Force probably counts as quasi-mechu deru), and I'd really like to see the synth-crystal forging process in a fanfic.

Anyways, I just wanted to say that I really liked Fae Coven having a red lightsabre, Disney got rid of natural red kyber crystals and it's a damn shame. And given that Exar Kun's Sith used their original Jedi blades, I think that it would also make sense if fallen/Dark Jedi didn't uniformly decide to ditch their old crystals and go cook up new ones, for whatever reason; with this in mind, I'm opposed to bled crystals, it's not a bad concept in principle, but it just doesn't fit the rest of legends lore very well.

A neat funfact that I remember: Vader's lightsabre actually had a naturally red crystal too.

 

[MemeKing]

I've assumed that this fic is happening in the Legends universe, not disney. I've no opinion on all the Disney Force Sects, Jeddha or the Convocation, but in Legends, kyber crystals can also be found on Dantooine and a whole bunch of other worlds (which Sidious looted, leading to NJO being forced to use synthetics for a long time iirc - but that's like 200 years into the future). They can be grown via a special machine called geological compressor when coupled with some ceremony/ritual and meditation; synthetic crystals are no worse that natural ones, and don't always have to be red - it doesn't take much effort to make ones of different colour. Given that Luke was able to grow one himself sometime after ESB(?), I assume that such a device isn't hard to find. A little bit of quasi-Sith alchemy hasn't hurt anyone (just like putting a lightsabre together with the Force probably counts as quasi-mechu deru), and I'd really like to see the synth-crystal forging process in a fanfic.

Anyways, I just wanted to say that I really liked Fae Coven having a red lightsabre, Disney got rid of natural red kyber crystals and it's a damn shame. And given that Exar Kun's Sith used their original Jedi blades, I think that it would also make sense if fallen/Dark Jedi didn't uniformly decide to ditch their old crystals and go cook up new ones, for whatever reason; with this in mind, I'm opposed to bled crystals, it's not a bad concept in principle, but it just doesn't fit the rest of legends lore very well.

A neat funfact that I remember: Vader's lightsabre actually had a naturally red crystal too.

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The Fallanassi, Dai Bendu, Matukai, and Sorcerers of Tund all existed in legends. Disney basically threw out a bunch of Lore and nit-picked what they wanted, to the point that a lot of stuff is similar in name only.

The neat thing about the Dai Bendu is that they probably know where the Tho Yor that transported force sensitives to the planet Tython where the Jedi Order was started, are currently located in the galaxy.

Or that the Sorcerers of Tund and the people livng on the planet Tund are the last of the Sith species, they are the Kissai priests who got exiled from Korriban for believing going all in on the dark side was a bad idea, plus the various Sith Heretics and refugees from the multiple Sith Empires, all congregating on Tund to form an interesting society.

Or that the Matukai used to be wandering warrior Monks, who through martial arts could increase force sensitivity to a point and constructed Pole Arms as a graduation ritual.

Or the Fallanassi being the premier experts on force illusions, but unable to affect the physical world as a result.

 

[TroubleFait]

It's a bit maddening that Nerim's original grievances with the Order are still true. They stole his life and threw him out.

And now they stole his lightsaber. They really remove it from him knowing he has a spiritual connection with it, just like that as a matter of course.

 

[SirRolandTheFrank]

Yeah, this is probably very, very upsetting to say the least. But making a new lightsabre isn't hard at all if you know what you need - Tetha managed to do it on her own, after all.