Governor's Gambit - Star Wars SI into Imperial Governor

[UndeadLord22]

Remove that stupidass bigtarget of a Imperial-style bridge, and we're good.

 

[Valof]

Oh no, Chekhov's somehow managed to get ahold of a printing press! I can't wait for the document to leak and Mola to accidentally declare for the rebellion.

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Or a Manifesto for a New and Better Empire

 

[Civil Reader]

Yo. For those wondering about the link to the Harrower-Class redesign, its because of a reader on Spacebattles who loves the ship so much he wrote a three part thesis on it

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Here is a link: https://forums.spacebattles.com/thr...rial-governor.1212506/page-374#post-113242712

 

[Constructor3000]

In way, i pity mommy Mola, even if be wrong methods, she tried to give her children what she thought was best as street rat, not understanding that her children aren't street rats too thanks to her, but because of it, they didn't develop the same outlook as she, plus her horrible communication was just oil into fire.

And gosh, the moment mc runs, there will be sector wide manhunt just tu put him back into that chair..

Nice ship, though I have question, do star fighters have missiles?

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I agree. I am a sucker for a good Redemption arc.
She doesn't seem like an evil mother, just a bad one. She clearly wants what she considers best for the family, but she can't seem to communicate it, or take other peoples desires into consideration.
Still, I would love to see her more, not climbing the imperial ranks, but reconnecting with her family and trying to mend their relationship, whilst growing as a person.

 

[Wratus]

Nice to see the Harrower II just hope they forgo the big ass bridge and instead go for the other one with the smaller and flatter bridge, cuz why would anyone in their right mind design such a big target?

 

[Yacov]

The Verndari on Vylos would likely start producing profit given some time. Of course, considering the entire species numbered around 300 million or so planet wide, it would be quite alot.

Although, to be honest, the entire situation on Vylos was quite unbalanced. The places the Empire initially landed on got the best deals. But on other continents, with much larger nations? Suffice it to say it took some Imperial warships time to demonstrate the military difference by turning a few mountains into rubble. And as such, the population was far more fearful, making integration difficult.

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There is also the fact that a vast majority of their society is probably still in subsistence agriculture. Transitioning from that to a society where they only require a fraction of the population to meet their dietary needs is going to be a journey.

Still, progress remained slow but steady. My insistence on doing things peacefully instead of just killing everyone in sight and extracting the resources was not beneficial in the short term, but in the long term meant everyone got to get out both alive and wealthier.

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Average Core Worlder Imperial mentality: "Just shoot the peasants, we can always get more."

Las' Outer Rim reality mentality: "Don't shoot the peasants, we need those for long term growth!"

In Ife's opinion, there were no real threats in the sector that would require the firepower or intimidation factor of walkers like the AT-AT and AT-ST, and that by instead using smaller armored vehicles like repulsorlift tanks and a few of the cheaper AT-DP's for walker versatility, one could increase the amount of fighters and gunships on board and increase the ships effective range of power projection.

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Yeah at this point the ground war is currently being won. Space was always where the Rebellion was the strongest.

The AT-AT is frankly overkill in most cases. The Mid Rim Offensive and the Battle of Hoth were the two real cases I can think of where deploying an AT-AT was warranted. Outside of that the Empire is mostly dealing with small, isolated areas where the AT-AT is just one giant target not worth the risk of losing it to the Rebels getting a lucky shot.

 

[Abba is the best]

Yo. For those wondering about the link to the Harrower-Class redesign, its because of a reader on Spacebattles who loves the ship so much he wrote a three part thesis on it, and so I decided to include it in the story. I don't know what to call it though, nor what its armaments or complement will truly look like, though I think a more starfighter heavy complement makes sense because, realistically, you don't need heavy walkers and ground forces to fight pirates in the Outer Rim.

Also, the 92 starfighter thing was taken from the Harrower-Class statistics

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I think there was multiple types of harrower unofficially due to the discrepencies in their presentation across multiple media, so you could likely increase that fighter count since the 92 was for the standard harrower who was a battleship first and a carrier second, also the harrower's compliment of supremacy starfighters took far more horizontal space compared to the current galactic empire's starfighters in terms of width and length (not height though), so you could likely increase the size by half again if you are going with a primary carrier doctrine based design.

Also just for clarification, when you said that the harrower is a smaller ship that is easier to produce, did you mean in total volume and tonnage? Or simply in how much easier and faster it is to produce due to standardised design?

Also i got a question about his production of warships, has he managed to get a licence to produce carrack class light cruisers, because those ships are low key the best pound for pound warships in starwars. And the only thing they really need to be improved in its standard variant is more anti starfighter weaponry and a hanger to get bolted on somewhere to hold afew ships, and that would make them the perfect scouting in force warship with a relatively small crew compliment for a ship the same size as an arquitens light cruiser.

Edit: i decided to google it instead of relying purely on my memories, so the standard harrower holds 95 fighters and 32 bombers.

Also my memory on light cruisers was interesting because i looked them up and their discrepencies between the EU and disneyverse are quite big. As in my memories of hearing the carrick could function with less than 1/10 of its standard compliment was understating it since it can aparently run with only 2 people crew due to extensive automation in the disney canon... otherwise in the EU its got a decent minimum crew of 500, while the arquitens is at 100, so yea ignore me

 

[Watching]

new standard TIE variant with inbuilt shields and missiles

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Where did the put the missiles?

I can see the hologram of the proposed ship shining above

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Thanks, I hate it. It looks like you took a Harrower and bolted a ISD conning tower thing onto it. They could have at least mounted guns onto the ISD part of it.

Wonder if the ship will get a reaction out of our sith gamer girl for being a harrower but wrong?

At the same time, the projected statistics put its total potential starfighter count at 92

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Why does it have a smaller strikecraft carry capacity? doesn't the actual Harrower carry around 160 small craft (35 of which would be shuttles).

I can't wait for the document to leak and Mola to accidentally declare for the rebellion

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Hope it doesn't leak, like the old one, the new republic didn't really care much for the outer rim so there's not really much of a benefit in his sector joining.

 

[systemfailure]

Where did the put the missiles?

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My guess are new hard point on the inside of the wings.

 

[Lokabrenna]

Meh, I'm unimpressed with the Harrower, both the original and this redesign. And I'm not sure what the point is, when Las could have just invested in more Vindicators. They're simple, reliable, have a very reasonable crew requirement, they're incredibly modular (depending on configuration, they could carry anywhere from 24 - 72 starfighters, and the armament could be adjusted as needed), they would raise zero eyebrows among other Imperials, and they're too tough and powerful for all but the biggest and best equipped pirate fleets to handle (and that's if it's alone against them, with no other ships backing it up). They're also smaller, lighter, and a well-established design, making them much easier and cheaper to produce. On top of that, some of them can be built as Interdictors, which are wildly useful for just about any effort to control territory across a sector. For Las' purposes, it's basically perfect, and they were literally designed from the keel up for precisely the kind of operational environment and situation Las is dealing with.

Instead, he's pouring resources into this Frankensteined monstrosity based on an already critically flawed design from ancient times, for no particular reason. In the year or so before he has a working prototype, he could instead be churning out whole squadrons of Vindicators. This is one of those times when this story seems to make decisions purely to advertise some neat ship or vehicle render you guys found. Yeah, those can be cool to look at, but sometimes trying to shoehorn it into the story ends up being nothing but a showcase of style over substance, just kind of dumb and pointless.

 

[Hadrian.Caeser]

It might be good for their orphanages, if relatively wealthy mandalorians come to his sector in increasingly higher numbers

 

[EzordCyborg45]

I don't know what to call it though, nor what its armaments or complement will truly look like, though I think a more starfighter heavy complement makes sense because, realistically, you don't need heavy walkers and ground forces to fight pirates in the Outer Rim.

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Potential Name: Hydra-Class Heavy Carrier
Armaments: A decent mix of light and medium turbo lasers for star fighter and smaller capital ship coverage. Sprinkle in one or two heavy turbo lasers for heavier threats (the complement of star fighters might make the use of heavy turbo lasers obsolete)
Star Fighters: Maybe a three way split for interceptors, bombers and heavier craft (depending on mission profile)

 

[Inbredmartian]

I don't know what to call it though, nor what its armaments or complement will truly look like

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Honestly just calling it the Harrower would work. Especially of our pet time displaced sith see it and asked why we are building a harrower and that led to questions being asked and eventually a designer admiring to being a military historian with a hard on for the class.

 

[Andrew1993]

Meh, I'm unimpressed with the Harrower, both the original and this redesign. And I'm not sure what the point is, when Las could have just invested in more Vindicators. They're simple, reliable, have a very reasonable crew requirement, they're incredibly modular (depending on configuration, they could carry anywhere from 24 - 72 starfighters, and the armament could be adjusted as needed), they would raise zero eyebrows among other Imperials, and they're too tough and powerful for all but the biggest and best equipped pirate fleets to handle (and that's if it's alone against them, with no other ships backing it up). They're also smaller, lighter, and a well-established design, making them much easier and cheaper to produce. On top of that, some of them can be built as Interdictors, which are wildly useful for just about any effort to control territory across a sector. For Las' purposes, it's basically perfect, and they were literally designed from the keel up for precisely the kind of operational environment and situation Las is dealing with.

Instead, he's pouring resources into this Frankensteined monstrosity based on an already critically flawed design from ancient times, for no particular reason. In the year or so before he has a working prototype, he could instead be churning out whole squadrons of Vindicators. This is one of those times when this story seems to make decisions purely to advertise some neat ship or vehicle render you guys found. Yeah, those can be cool to look at, but sometimes trying to shoehorn it into the story ends up being nothing but a showcase of style over substance, just kind of dumb and pointless.

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Same, frankly it would have been probally easier to just use the victory class series as the base sector Star destroyer. I honestly see the harrower design more as a specialty thing, or a small production batch. Especially the exposed frontal hanger between the spurs.

 

[Havalt300]

I would like to have an updated ATTE version.

 

[Andrew1993]

Spoiler: Tank design

 

[sperance]

She doesn't seem like an evil mother, just a bad one. She clearly wants what she considers best for the family, but she can't seem to communicate it, or take other peoples desires into consideration.

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Dude, have you forgotten she was going to kill Las if he disappointed her? Like, straight up get him killed in some god-forsaken battlefront because of the crime of not being as useful to her as she wanted him to?

Where the hell is all this Jir apologism coming from?

 

[Kilvanya]

Wonder how many on that design team still have their ancestors old armor from a few thousand years ago

 

[Nisiris]

Dude, have you forgotten she was going to kill Las if he disappointed her? Like, straight up get him killed in some god-forsaken battlefront because of the crime of not being as useful to her as she wanted him to?

Where the hell is all this Jir apologism coming from?

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Was that anywhere in fic? Truthfully I don't remember, wasn't that just Las fantasy or idea? I mean, wouldn't be firs parent throwing it's child to war in hopes it will shape it or just make grow it, for what I remember Las before mc became him wasn't exactly good guy too.

 

[cmrdpm]

Hope it doesn't leak, like the old one, the new republic didn't really care much for the outer rim so there's not really much of a benefit in his sector joining.

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Real talk, historically the nature of the new republic has fluctuated wildly depending on the needs of whichever writer is at the helm. Depending on how much we feel like Legends is canon, the Hutts might be a threat, or maybe your various Thrawns and warlord Zsinjs are out there rolling up imperial remnants. Lots of reasons to have friends with fleets. And that's before the less immediately strategic gains like access to a well-regulated pharmaceutical industry, streamlined immigration processes, really anything that benefits from a formalized access point to an economy of scale.

 

[sperance]

Was that anywhere in fic? Truthfully I don't remember, wasn't that just Las fantasy or idea? I mean, wouldn't be firs parent throwing it's child to war in hopes it will shape it or just make grow it, for what I remember Las before mc became him wasn't exactly good guy too.

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Literally all of Las' sisters said him being made governor was just an excuse to use his failure to get him killed.

Here's Alvi:

While governor was a good position, to be the governor of an outer-rim system was basically asking to either stagnate or get killed by pirates.

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But to threaten him with infantry service? She shuddered. To fight in the Imperial Infantry front lines was to be part of an unstoppable force that would toss as many bodies into a pit just to walk over the corpses instead of going around.

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Here's Zyx:

While governor was a good position, to be the governor of an outer-rim system was basically asking to either stagnate or get killed by pirates.

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But to threaten him with infantry service? She shuddered. To fight in the Imperial Infantry front lines was to be part of an unstoppable force that would toss as many bodies into a pit just to walk over the corpses instead of going around.

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The fear of death in the Infantry had led him to actually work hard in his new duties because he had no choice.

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Here's Shal:

Finally, it led to this. Exile, a death sentence in all but name. If he wasn't killed by pirates or rebels, then when he inevitably failed he would be sent to the frontlines. A way for their mother to rid the family of a stain on its banner.

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So, no, Jir isn't some poor misunderstood woobie who only wants what's best for her family. She's a fucking monster and her having a sad past doesn't change that. She'd kill any one of her kids without a second thought the moment they stopped being useful to her.

 

[Nisiris]

Literally all of Las' sisters said him being made governor was just an excuse to use his failure to get him killed.

Here's Alvi:





Here's Zyx:







Here's Shal:




So, no, Jir isn't some poor misunderstood woobie who only wants what's best for her family. She's a fucking monster and her having a sad past doesn't change that. She'd kill any one of her kids without a second thought the moment they stopped being useful to her.

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Again, that is just point of view from his siblings that have somehow same bad relationship with Jir, not saying it isn't possible but really there are easier ways than making him Governor of backwater planet.

I will not fight ulyou on it, just saying that my own view of it is more towards bad mother not evil one.