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(Partially) fixing the tag system

Something I didn't see get brought up is how the already tagged stories going to be affected.

Is the tag changing automatic? Are Authors going to manually go through their old fics and change the tags one by one? If so what about authors who no longer use this site for one reason or another?
This isn't going to change any tags currently on stories. The moderator is just manually sorting similar tags into buckets. So if you search for one of the 17 tags in a bucket, the search shows you every story that has any of the tags from that bucket.
 
The various general Star Trek tags should probably be merged, as well as the tags for Star Wars and 2004 Battlestar Galactica.

I disagree, at least for Star Trek and Star Wars. The tags should remain separate for those, as the different time periods of both those universes have so much different that they're basically their own settings. After all, a Prequel fanfic is very different from an Original Trilogy fanfic or an Old Republic fanfic.

Something I didn't see get brought up is how the already tagged stories going to be affected.

Is the tag changing automatic? Are Authors going to manually go through their old fics and change the tags one by one? If so what about authors who no longer use this site for one reason or another?

As far as I can tell, this will only affect how users search tags. This change should have no effect on already posted fanfics/quests

On another note, some other merger ideas:

>Living Armor + Living Armour + Living Clothing + Living Clothes = Living Clothes

>MGE + Monster Girl Encyclopedia + MGE AU = Monster Girl Encyclopedia

>Villain MC + Villain Protagonist + Villainous Protagonist + Villainous MC + Evil Protagonist + Evil MC = Villain Protagonist

>Tentacles + Tentacles are inevitable + Tentacle sex = Tentacles
 
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I'll just add that I have to agree with the comment on that SI/OC, SI and OC are distinct enough in meaning that they probably should not be merged into 1 tag. It's however not too big of and issue for me.

The fandom tags are way more annoying to me personally. Especially if you have too look through multiple search results with duplicates to see most of the fic's available. I saw that hero academia already had some suggestions, but to add:

{marvel - marvel comics - marvel au - mcu - marvel cinematic universe - marvel animation - mcu/marvel comics - mcu-ish - marvel fusion - marvel rivals} Marvel
There is a 'not mcu' tag so some people might want to have seperate Marvel and the MCU tags.
{dc comics - dc - dc au - dcau - dc elements - dc crossover - dcu - dc si - dc start - detective comics - detective comics [dc]} DC comics

And finally if you type into the tag search the words 'porn' or 'plot' you also see a lot of tags that can probably be merged into 1 or 2.
 
This is awesome. It's such a problem when you want a fic and have to look it up in 4 slightly different categories.

I do have a question will this combination of tags affect the older stories? Or will it just delete the old tags and not replace them?
 
I personally wouldn't want ASOIAF and GOT grouped under the same tag. To me, there's a great similarity between the two, but there's also a big difference. This difference makes me not want to read anything about GOT.
 
I don't have any suggestions or things off the top of my head that haven't already been mentioned but I do want to extend a heartfelt thanks for even trying to tackling this nightmare.

The amount of times I've been trying to find a thread about whatever flavor of the month anime and it having like, sixty goddamn tags has driven me up the wall in recent times.

Outside of suggestions is there anything else I could do to help with this?
 
This is my concern too. Sure, in the backend, my guess is slapping in a junction table somewhere in the db or something.
But what about the practical implications?

In the case of...

I assume people will try to enter "cross over" and have it automatically converted to "crossover" instead. But what about the people who try to circumvent this? Who would go out of their way to tag "X-over" or "xover" or whatever else?

I know it's been mention that


So, I assume the readers WON'T have the ability to report what they feel like is incorrect tagging, and the mods will just play whack-a-mole including user-generated tags for all eternity like some db admin Sisyphus? 💀
If you look a few posts up from the post of yours that I'm quoting, you'll see a post where I explain it. The other tags should still exist and be usable, it's just that the search and filter functions will treat them all as being the same "parent" tag. Thus, the problem you're bringing up should never happen.
 

Here are a few tags to condense:


{incest - incest eventually... maybe. - incest is wincest - incest is wincest......???? - incest possible - incest probable - incest will be difficult - incest(Misaka) - incest....sort of. - incest? - wincest - twincest - possible twincest - selfcest/twincest - it's technically step-cest but who cares - mother and daughter - mother and son - mother daughter - mother daughter incest - mother daughter incest - mother daughter winces - mother fucker! - father-daughter - father-daughter-incest - brother complex - brother sister - sister/sister incest - sisterly blowjobs - 1.sisters are for lewding - daddy/daughter - father-daughter - father-daughter-incest - mother-daughter relationship - mother-daughter-incest - mother-lover - mother-son - cousin incest - kissing cousins - uncle/niece} incest

{loli - loli and shota - loli but actually 62 years old - loli but actually dead so its cool - loli but mot immediately - loli content possible - loli discussion - loli dom - loli elf - loli goblin - lolicon - can't be a lolicon if you are a loli - unrepentant lolicon - unconquered loli - mflolibaba} loli

{underage - underage character - underage characters - underage handholding - underage sex - underaged cause incest is one thing underage sex is another - extremely underage - loli and shota - shota on loli} underage

{shota - shota and "big sister" - shota and milfs - shota for the win - shota gilgamesh - shota goku at start - shota mc - shota mc lewds - shota of darkness} shota

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The below two may need to be merged into one:

{rape - rape (usually because of war) - rape adventures too - rape and worse - rape dragon - rape is a battle tactic - rape is completely possible - rape is probably unavoidable - rape monster lives in a society - rape monster protag - raping could happen too rapist mc - rapist protagonist - grapist - the-rapist} rape

{noncon - noncon (?) - noncon but not really - noncon dubcon and just con - noncon is a thing that happens in eroge - noncon possible - noncon to con - noncon to mc is possible - nonconsent - nonconsentual - nonconsensual - nonconsensual-transformation - consent is but a nice touch - consent is implied - consent is not always given - consent is the sexist fetish - consent issues - consent negotiation - semi-consentual - semi-con - consensual-non-consent - consensual-non-consent fantasy - consensual? - questionable consent} nonconsensual

====

{waifu catalog - waifu catalog inspired - waifu catalog *is* used optimally - waifu catalog is not used optimally - waifu catalog rules are bended slightly - waifu catalog-ish - waifu catalogue - waifu catalogue homebrew - wiafu catalogue inspired - waifu catalogue likely - fuck waifu catalog - harem(its a waifu catalog fanfiction) - husband catalog - the company - the company fucks everyone - the company makes mistakes - fuck the company - inspired by "the company" tech - passingly related to the company - war against the company - slut life - slutlife - slut life origin story} waifu catalog

{chaos gacha - chaos gacha inspired - chaos gacha madness - chaos gacha sorta - chaos gatcha - slower power creep than usual for the chaos gacha} chaos gacha

{jump chain - jump chain probably - jump-chain - jump-chain sorta - jump-chan is a bitch - jump-chan is a pervert - jump-chan is a mom - jumpchain - jumpchain (sorta) - semi-jump chain - jumpchain build - jumpchain denial - jumpchain gauntlet - jumpchain mcs - jumpchain quest - jumpchain-lite - jumpchain? - jumpchainesque - jumpfic} jumpchain

{essence - essence cyoa - essence inspired - essence meta - essence meta cyoa - essences - kinda essence meta - meta essence - original essence} essence cyoa

====

The one below is the hardest to pin down on one single tag:

{comment or else - comment whore - comment you lurkers - comments and interaction give me life - comments and interaction give me life muhehehe - comments and likes fuel my muse - comments are appreciated - comments are appreciated (putting this tag work?) - comments are life - comments are needed to progress - comments feed me - comments feed me and my ego - comments feed my muse - likes and comments make op happy - likes and votes let qm know you you are reading. - likes are nice - alerts for likes - author likes feedback - author likes to chat - author lives on comments and likes - feedback appreciated - feedback feeds me - feedback is fuel for the muse - feedback makes qm happy - feedback makes the author better - feedback makes the author happy - feedback needed - feeback pleases me - feedback welcome - author enjoys feedback - author appreciates constructive criticism - criticism always welcome - criticism is also cool - criticism is valued - criticism much appreciated - criticism welcome(constructiveness appreciated) - criticism would be appreciated - a criticism is fine too - actual criticism is just as good - can't get better without criticism - constructive criticism appreciated - constructive criticism does as well - constructive criticism is heavily appreciated! - constructive criticism makes the author happy - author appreciates constructive criticism - discussion = author feels validated - discussion and comments make the author happy - discussion breeds awesomeness - discussion encourages the qm - discussion feeds me - discussion feeds me metaphorically - discussion encouraged - discussion heavily encouraged - discussion is encouraged - discussion is encouraged motherfuckers! ideas are encouraged! - ideas encouraged - questions encouraged}
 
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Was just dealing with this...
Suggestion:
{fate stay night - fate / stay night} fate / stay night
also fsn and f/sn

These three aren't directly Waifu Catalog, they're their own separate thing. Still, one combined Slut Life tag for those three should do nicely.
Waifu catalog and slut life are different enough I'd keep them separate. Cherico's version is different from Swift's.
 
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Waifu catalog and slut life are different enough I'd keep them separate. Cherico's version is different from Swift's.
I thought "Slut Life" was "female MC goes on a multiversal TV show and chooses how she gets railed for the viewers' amusement" and only related to the Waifu Catalog due to the Company running both. Or am I misremembering?
 
I thought "Slut Life" was "female MC goes on a multiversal TV show and chooses how she gets railed for the viewers' amusement" and only related to the Waifu Catalog due to the Company running both. Or am I misremembering?
There's an AU sorta version of the Waifu catalogue where The Company is actually Slut Life and is actively screwing people over, rather than the OG version where it's all fiat based power fantasy without screwing over the contractors on purpose. If you see "Class A, Class D, ect" then you're dealing with the first version, which has more suffering and limitations and office politics. Edit: Also multiverse spanning enemy groups.
 
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Here are a few tags to condense:
A lot of these contain additional information which you'd be erasing by forcing them to be the same tag. Like, mother/daughter is obviously conveying different information to people than just 'incest' (you'd tag with both)
Plus heaps of these are just straight up completely different. People searching for CNC are not looking for noncon. People searching for mother/daughter are not looking for brother/sister.

Or am I misremembering?
You're mostly remembering correctly except I'm pretty sure there's no relationship whatsoever between the slut life CYOA and the WC.
Slut Life is a way older 4chan CYOA.
 
I'm not sure if anyone has brought this up yet. But there should probably be a distinction between Futanari protagonist and Trans protagonist in the tags. Simply because there is a distinction. Futa has both sets of genitals while a Trans Protag does not typically speaking.

Though it does bring up the question of it Trans Protagonists should be folded into the Genderbending Protagonist Tag. Though again not all Trans Protagonists will be the same depending on the author as not all chose to transition or can't due to setting or other in-story constraints. And that isn't even getting into the Femboy/Tomgirl or Tomboy/Mascgirl, etc. Among other things.
 
>Villain MC + Villain Protagonist + Villainous Protagonist + Villainous MC + Evil Protagonist + Evil MC = Villain Protagonist
Ugh. This complicated pile of shit. As it range from "technically villain" to "evil asshole". Mafia Boss or Medieval Noble Who Is Quite Happy To Be Asshole But Play By Rules who are just doing their thing (while often enough being positive influence on controlled area and their subjects) and somebody who goes out of their way to kick puppies are two very different kinds of protagonists. I would say tag first as Villain MC and second as Evil MC, but don't merge two types.
 
I don't know what mod tools you have access to, but there would a lot of tags that could be combined that follow a similar pattern. Specifically, with a given franchise (say "game of thrones") if you can find all the tags that have some flavor of "elements", "AU", "-ish" added on the end (e.g. "game of thrones elements") you could condense all of them down to just "game of thrones").

Anyway, some suggestions:
{warhammer 20k - warhammer20k - wh20k - w20k - 20k} warhammer 20k
{warhammer 25k - warhammer25k - wh25k - w25k - 25k} warhammer 25k
{warhammer 30k - warhammer30k - wh30k - w30k - 30k} warhammer 30k
{warhammer 40k - warhammer40k - wh40k - w40k - 40k} warhammer 40k
{battletech - battletech gothic - lots of battletech shit - still battletech} battletech
{pokemon - pokemon adventures - pokemon anime - pokemon au} pokemon
{digimon - digimon adventure - digimon tamer} digimon
{ben 10 - ben10 - ben 10 AU - ben 10 inspired? - ben ten - ben ten cross} ben 10
{frieren: beyond journey's end - sousou no frieren - frieren} frieren: beyond journey's end
{waifu catalog -wc adjacent - wc inspired - wc - wc usage - cooperative wc - im not gonna its wc but sorta - kinda sorta no really wc - wc build used as the mc cheat and nothing else} waifu catalog
{world of warcraft - WOW} world of warcraft
{fullmetal alchemist - fullmetal alchemist references} fullmetal alchemist
{hunter x hunter - hunter x hunter au - hunter x hunter elements - hxh} hunter x hunter
{magic the gathering - magic the gathering AU - MTG} magic the gathering
{chaos gacha - chaos gacha inspired - chaos gacha madness - chaos gacha sorta} chaos gacha
 
lol. Appreciate all the feedback, but, it's a lot. I'm gonna be replying to it all, so, bear with me. Spoilered whenever a reply involved more than one quote to save space. Also, I'm probably gonna file for an extension on that 48 hours deadline. Once I've integrated all of the feedback into the proposed mergers, I'll post the new list, and reset the clock.

So, consolidating all the leads to look into for convenience.
Another group to look into would be Jujitsu Kisen. It has at least 4 tags I have seen. And Harry Potter as well. A lot of tags for it are scattered in a nonsensical maner.
Edit: The walking dead also has a lot of tags

The walking dead - the walking dead game - fear the walking dead - walking dead
I definitely recommend merging all the different variations of "[gender] protagonist"--i.e. "male protag", "male protagonist", "male mc", "male main character", etc.

"Youjo Senki" and "Saga of Tanya the Evil" should be synonym'd.
I beg you, please have the canon tag be "Youjo Senki" and not the localizer's crime against the author.

"AI Images" and "AI Art" should probably be synonym'd as well.

The multiple chaos gacha and waifu catalog tags also should be merged

The various Fate tags maybe?
To be fair, not every version of Fate is the same.

A Grand Order scenario isn't the same as one set in Fate Stay

I think battletech has several different tags at the moment? I know battletech and mechwarrior have different focuses as games, but for the purposes of fiction they're set in the same universe and should probably be consolidated.

I think all the gendered lead/main characters can be grouped into their own tag groups. For example: female mc, female protagonist, female lead, female oc, femmc, femoc, female si, etc. → female main character. Same thing for male gender, and same thing for futa.

I really only like reading stories with female or feminine leads, and there are so many ways to tag a main character so... Yeah.

[reverse gender roles, reverse moral sexuality, reverse sexual morality, reverse sexual morality universe, reverse sexual morality slow build up, rsm] reverse sexual morality

Add futa on female and futa on females in this category, please. Those tags give five pages of search results. And futa on male with girl penis - both two pages. And lastly on this topic, with one page of results - futa on futa (dunno how that works, lol).

These really aren't the same, so I'll disagree with you here.


I don't think these should be folded into the base futa tag. Well, maybe 'girl penis', but the others are describing the genders involved in sex (and who's doing the penetrating, when it comes to 'futa on male'), rather than futanari's less specific 'there's a futa in this'.

you gotta merge
fate grand order & fate/grand order

yes both tags exist and it annoyed me literally yesterday.since like 30% use one and 70% use the other over in quests.

edit id also glance over the other fates and check if such things have occurred

I would suggest merging all the variants of OP MC (op mc, op protag, op protagonist, busted MC etc.) since they are all the same thing basically

and its different from "OP MC Eventually" tags, like the harem tags tbh

Anyway. There's a bunch of different variations of things like fem Naruto, Naruko, female Naruto, ect. Same with Harry Potter, and a couple other major fanfiction characters who get genderbent have this problem.

question though, would it not be prudent to merge all the selective gender bending tags (like genderbent AU, Fem so and so, etc.) into something like Rule 63 AU?

I think its sufficiently different from just genderbending since that implies that genderbending is an action or core theme central to the story not a fact of the world at large

{rwby - rwby si - rwby au} rwby

{40k - 30k - warhammer 40k - warhammer 30k} warhammer 40k
*I wouldn't add 'warhammer' because it can mean either warhammer 40k or warhammer fantasy which is a separate continuity.

Just general Rule 63 Character and World tags maybe? (Is that used anymore? Am I old?)

I think that for Fate tags specifically, while variations should be merged, series tags should be kept separate. Someone may want a Fate/Stay Night fanfic but not a Fate/Grand Order fanfic, for example.

You are right, forgot about abbreviations but they need to either be merged or integrated in some way

ZZZ, FGO, HSR, and all the others along with variations need to be merged if only into a single acronym in the worst case. its really bad that fate has fgo, FGO, F/GO and Grand Order all as separate tags

I'd suggest every variation of male protagonist and female protagonist be merged together. Making it easier to search for stories based on the gender of the character would be amazing.

Ex: Female Protagonist, Female MC, Female Protag, etc. -> Female Protagonist

Well all the incest tags that is for incest should merg too

Impreg, impregnation, breeding and so on could be merged

Merge the raildex/toaru tags I'm a new member to that fandom and its annoying to look through all the different names in that group.

There's a few different Raildex tags

How many different tags are there to indicate snippets?

There are also various tags meant for crack fics, bestiality, humanity fuck yeah, alternate universe (especially when its just "setting au" which should probably be split into a setting and an au tag), there are a bunch of tags relating to and simply being pokemon settings, etc.

This is off rip as im a little busy atm but thought i should mention it

edgerunner
edgerunners
cyberpunk edgerunners
cyberpunk edgerunner and 2077 both
cyberpunk edgerunners au*
cyberpunk au*

*honestly, any tag with a freestanding 'au' in it should just be deleted. They're clutter already covered by using both a 'settingname' and an AU tag.

Some of the Pokémon tags can probably be merged – definitely Pokemon with Pokémon, heh.

Re: fate, the ones with the '/' are the "proper" spelling, if that ends up being a point of confusion
Also maybe the "essence" type tags should be folded together cuz you have a lot of variations.
same thing here, but with "rotsh" as one of the ones being merged.

Another few to add to the list are "KH" for "kingdom hearts",
Probably gonna save branching out into all of that for the second batch of mergers.
Dont forget the MHA tag for my hero academia.
{my hero academia - my_hero_academia - boku no hero academia - my boku academia} my hero academia
I think there's also a "mha" and a "bnha" tag that could be folded into the "my hero academia" tag.
add "bnha" and "mha" to this, and you're golden.
Will add both of those to the list.
ASOIAF - A song of ice and fire - A song of ice & fire - game of thrones - got - agot.

Game of thrones has WAAAAY too many tags
"got" or "Game of Thrones" to the A Song of Ice and Fire. Also of note is that I'm pretty sure I saw a "A Song of Fire and Ice" which I can't remember if it was solely the name of a fic, or a tag in the list...
Game of thrones, Got could be merged under A song of ice and fire. Hotd and house of the dragon might be possible as well. In the end, it's one universe but different timelines, and/or continuities.
I'd advise using severe caution when merging tags.

Some such as the Game of Thrones one listed in the OP are fine when you're just talking about the main books or tv show, but including House of the Dragon is not fine. If I'm looking for a GoT Fic and I'm not interested in House of the Dragon at all (because fuck the Targs) I'd be pretty fucking annoyed to learn that all those House of Dragon Fics were lumped in with my search.
I'm probably not gonna merge asoiaf and got tags, with one being the show and the other being the book (with distinct differences), but I will merge all the got variations.
I would like to gently-to-moderately push against merging the general "self insert" with "si/oc" stuff. It's a pet peeve of mine, but the "original character insert" that is the latter, is very often not the author's "self." They are often very distinct kinds of stories from actual self insert stories, and wanting to read one of those genres doesn't necessarily include the other.

Basically, they're adjacent genres, but not the same, and so I would advocate for the idea that they probably should be separate.
The si/oc section seems off. SI and OC dont always include each other depending how it is done, and you have the 'not an si' lumped into the merge.
As it stands, we have a bunch of tags that don't mention an OC that are being merged into "si/oc", when they could easily be "SI in to canon character", which wouldn't really apply to the new tag. edit: while we simultaneously have a separate "self-insert" tag.





Personally, I'd recommend all the ones I colored red merged into "self-insert", the ones in yellow probably want to be merged, along with "friend insert", into... "non-self insert", maybe? And "si is not an si"; I really don't know what to do with, my best guess is it should go with the non-self inserts, as thats the best meaning I could guess.
I'll think about this tomorrow, but I'll definitely try to separate these out into more tags.
Quibbling, but I think 'genderbent protagonist' makes it more clear that the protag is, was, or will have their gender changed. Genderbending protagonist feels like genderbending is their superpower.
You could also just shorten this to "genderbent protagonist"
Will likely change to that.
there's also "non con" "non-consensual" "non-consent" "rape/non-con elements" "rape" "rape and worse" and probably a bunch more I missed.
Someone else already mentioned this but there are several more tags in this sphere, such as Non con, and non-consensual
Will look into maybe adding 'rape', 'sexual assault', and other stuff like that to that merge list.
Any particular reason why superhero and superheroes are considered different enough to warrant separate tags?
not sure why superhero and superheroes are different enough to have 2 tags, is it because of the implication that superhero is one guy only that is a superhero and superheroes implies a society? but I mean these mostly go hand in hand no?
Mostly, it seemed like there could conceivably be a deliberate difference when tagging each, and I'm not sure people are actually searching/excluding either tag. It seems more 'setting expectations for the thread' tbh, so merging them at all is probably unnecessary (but also harmless, and I've got the duplicates already, so…)
also what do people think.about combining "lesbian" and "yuri" tags? I don't see too much difference between the 2 tags based on how they are used in practice.
They are both basically the same thing, from what I've seen. Yuri is just the japanese term for lesbian/lesbian romance, as I understand it from context clues. Unless there's like a thing I missed, that's what I've gathered from online yuri shippers and stuff.

It's the same with with Yaoi, as Yaoi seems to be gay/gay romance.

It may be a good idea to blanket those tags under Gay/Yaoi and Lesbian/Yuri, respectively.
I think they have their own places. Yuri can be used to describe a "universal sexual alignment", while Lesbian is just for a singular person, generally. Same with Yaoi and Gay. Also, let's not forget the other usage those two sexual orientation tags have of "happy" and "from the Greek Isle of Lesbos". Queer also just used to mean "weird". I've seen (an) author(s) use "gay protagonist" and add "as in really happy". Edit: "yaoi", "BL", "boy's love" and "shounen ai" can be merged, if there are any such tags, same with "yuri", "GL", "Girl's love" and "Shoujo Ai".

Explanation time. This is just the basics. The Yuri community is a linked but distinct community from the lesbian or femslash community. They have their own related tropes, expectations, and media they are generally applied to. Western media vs anime generally.

Yuri has a higher focus on the cuteness and emotional pacing of the relationship for example. It also has Class-S which is the really close relationship a lot of Japanese girls have in there early teens that's often seen in anime. This can just be them being lesbian, but is also often just a reflection of a real life cultural phenomena.

Some of the trope differences would be things like the cool senpai and kouhai dynamic seen in many Yuri stories, focuses on school girls, Innocence first love, and focuses on the internal growth of the characters. Think magical girls.

Meanwhile the lesbian or femslash community in the sense of stories has a focus on tropes like enemies to lovers, hurt/comfort, a grumpy character and happy character pairing, and a focus on trauma. Think A03 stories.
They're basically the same, but if you really want to get into it, yuri and yaoi are technically for more explicit relationships. Essentially, if it's not smut, you should be using gay/lesbian, but people don't really make the distinction anymore.

Edit:


This is also a good, other side of the coin response that shows how they're treated in more modern times. :V
Will keep them separate.
{cross-over - cross over - crossover - x-over} crossover
Will add, and look for similar variations.
Abbreviations are not always things people understand, so keeping the final tag as Game of Thrones would be preferential I think. Also there are also series that overlap abbreviations, House of the Dragon and Highschool of the Dead are two very separate settings with pretty much nothing in common, but I've seen them both tagged as HotD.
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Hotd is a problematic one, because before "House of the Dragon" there was "Highschool of the Dead" using that abbreviation.
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I think someone already mentioned it, but for Fandom tags I think it'd be better to keep them abbreviated: asoiaf, got, hotd, mha, etc. Or alteast for the major ones? Just for easier filtering imo
Yeah, that's a tricky one I'm not sure what to do about. That's, incidentally, why in the guidelines it says series/descriptors should be fully spelled out, as abbreviations/acronyms can very easily mean multiple different things. I think this is a case where the damage is done, and I can't really merge HotD into either House of the Dragon or Highschool of the dead.
And many people put worm au tag without adding simple worm. There is 14 pages of search results without worm tag. Can worm be added automatically to every fic with worm au (retroactively and in newly posted content) or only tag merge are possible?
There are a lot of tags that amount to being "setting" followed by "au" such as "worm au" and "danmachi au". Will these tags be affected in anyway now that the various au tags are being merged? I know it annoys me having to search through both a settings normal tag and its au tags at times to find all of the fics associated with a specific setting.
I think having 'AU' as a tag by it's lonesome would work. So someone who wants RWBY AU can just add 'RWBY' and 'AU' as two separate tags while someone who just wants any and all RWBY stuff can just put 'RWBY'.
We won't be adding tags to any stories, but it's a tricky issue. Will think about it tomorrow.
... and "author name" tags to denote an user by that name wrote the story should be done away with, I think. They serve no purpose other than vanity when someone looking for their fics can easily search them as a user and find all of their threads that way... but that's just my personal opinion.
We aren't trying to reduce the total number of tags, per se, so it doesn't really matter whether a tag an author uses is necessary or not.
I'd suggest that, when possible, you consider going with the shorter versions of tags when merging them. Shorter tags are slightly but noticeably less annoying to put in when messing with the search bar on a phone.
Where that wouldn't cause potential other problems, I can preference conciseness.
The anti-ntr tags. There's like ntr is trash, ntr is shit, ntr is a trash fetish, ntr begone, ntr is beaten violently.

I think blanketing them all under Anti-NTR would help, as there isn't really a need to have five tags all for the same thing.
Not sure how search relevant those terms are, as opposed to 'setting expectations'/'having fun with tags'.
I think this should be "highschool dxd" for convenience, rather than having two spaces. It can get tedious otherwise.
'High School' is grammatically correct, and the one official sources seem to use, so will probably stick with that.
Also, can we have a different look for "standardized" and "unique" tags?
Though a tag categorization/hierarchy Would help. Most of the time I think the authors just don't know what to use and just use random stuff. But a structure could focus them a bit.
> 🌐Fandom
>> ⌛Timeline
> 🧑Characters
>> 🖇️Relationships (probably not required)
> Story type (si, oc, AU, dark, humor, crack, etc)
>> Story themes (heroic MC, villain Mc etc) (could be folded in with above )
> Author notes (No beta, Ai generated, Ai beta'd, Ai supported)
> Freeform (aka authors trying to be witty)
I think you should also give the opportunity for a thread creator to mark a tag as flavor text/a joke. Basically it'd make the tag useless for searching and if its a new tag it wouldnt create a new tag but it'd still appear like a normal tag.
Maybe have a set of "Standardized" Tags for filters/searchs and custom "Vibe" Tags for a author to set the expectations for their story
SB has different tag categories, but that's an exclusive add-on we can't access.
Another thing that should be synonymized is sexual preference tags in general. "Bi MC" tags could probably be separated into Bi male protagonist and Bi female protagonist. I'm fine with the latter tag, wouldn't filter that out, but I'd hate to filter out both at the same time due to overzealous tag merging.
I won't merge 'bi male' and 'bi female' variations into an overall 'bi' tag, yeah, though authors themselves might not make the distinction when tagging.
Well, maybe... I'm not exactly knowledgeable on this topic. Then if technically possible and not too hard to do generic futanari tag should be automatically (retroactively and otherwise) added to all of those without it.
It's just I exclude this generic tag usually, and still see fics with it in search results. Annoying.
We won't be adding tags to threads.
can we search for multiple separate tags?
I only ever use the tag system by clicking on the tags themselves.
Yes, using 'Advanced search', and you can filter out multiple different tags as well.
After using AO3 for years just hearing the word tegs makes me will my eyes.
And recently somebody was trying to lobby for this ace to use more tags to be more like AO3.
I hope this place doesn't fall into over tagging.
We have a limit of (10?) tags, and aren't inclined to increase it.
All three of these merged tag ideas need to have their word order reversed; so it'd be "eventual harem, likely harem, possible harem". Small nitpick, but it's better grammatically and is how literally every other tag system out there does it.
Will reverse them.
I'm curious on how you may plan to implement this? Would you ask mods to go through and change the tags already there or the authors?

Or will this be a more "going forward do this" type of deal? I would add some but most others already had my ideas such as just Anti-NTR or all the game of thrones stuff.
I assume merging the tags within the site would eliminate them from stories using them or replace them with the merged version? Preferably the latter obviously
It either replaces the merged Synonyms in the threads they're in with the new Canon tag, or, as Jade says, only affects search. I haven't tested it, but probably will, tomorrow.
Thanks for taking up the cause of merging tags! It has started to become a bit of a difficulty when using the search.
thanks for your effort as well in merging the tags
But good on you man! We have way too many tags, and having them become connected to each other would be quite helpful.
BTW, thank you for taking the time to do this! The tag system has really started to sprawl, so it's nice to know the issue is being taken seriously.
Thanks!



Okay, it's time for me to sleep. If I haven't quoted your feedback, it's likely because you posted after I started writing this.
 
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A lot of these contain additional information which you'd be erasing by forcing them to be the same tag. Like, mother/daughter is obviously conveying different information to people than just 'incest' (you'd tag with both)
Plus heaps of these are just straight up completely different. People searching for CNC are not looking for noncon. People searching for mother/daughter are not looking for brother/sister.
Also, Mother/Daughter is more often used for "the mc has sex with both mother and daughter together" aka oyakodon, rather than "mother and daughter do an incest." It's a completely different fetish.
 
{40k - 30k - warhammer 40k - warhammer 30k} warhammer 40k
*I wouldn't add 'warhammer' because it can mean either warhammer 40k or warhammer fantasy which is a separate continuity.
While 40k and 30k are the same setting they are very different at the same time as characters, factions, and general theme are very different.
 
Mind Control has several variations of the tag. Similarly the tag Brain Washing has many variants.

Mind control and hypno/brainwashing/etc. are different. Fastburn vs. slowburn. Porn vs. erotic.

Edit: Also, merging m/s, f/d, b/s incest is a horrid idea. Very different flavors.
 
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genderbending protagonist

Spoiler: Genderbending
It makes me think that they can freely change their gender, will have their gender changed multiple times or having a genderbending superpower, if it's a one and done thing I believe 'Genderbent' works better while retaining genderbending for as previously mentioned fics.

Edit: Tagwise it would also be nice if there were less tags related to things like WaifuCatalogue and Jumpchain as there are quite a few variations of what is essentially the same tag currently.
 
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