uju32 said:
Which is not the same thing as being able to use it.
Or even having access to it; you'll remember that Inoichi does not allow access to some techniques based on age.
Never implied we'd be using the techniques. But we would understand the ins and outs of the mind, how it's supposed to work.
*raises eyebrow*
The man who taught us constructs?
Speaking of, I just remembered Furiko described Sakura's split personality as a crude construct.
That realized we were a reincarnation before we could speak?
We are talking about Inoichi, right? He's never realized it. He thinks Ino is a girl who hears SB voices in her head.
That was the first person to refer to our head voices?
You underestimate him.
What I'm not underestimating is our S-Rank Thought Concealment and Inoichi being very attached to his preconceptions of SB voices. Inoichi figuring it out on his own? I've pretty much relegated that to, "He is unlikely to figure this out on his own." Not without us telling him.
He may figure out something is wrong if he sees Ino's body moving while she's supposed to be elsewhere, but pegging us for what we are? Nah.
No it's not.
Not if you're working alone against more than one opponent.
IMO.
Seeing as Inoichi deploys this against multiples, we have crazy fast handsigns, I see no reason why you'd be so set on it not being good enough when there seems to be a distinct lack of evidence that it wouldn't work. Furiko even touted this from the word go as a multi-target thing, IIRC, but don't quote me.
Given that Sakura was specifically picked for Team 7?
Not a stretch.
Ino's strength was supposed to be practicals and in a cage match all she and Sakura had was a mutual KO. Weak.
That's directly contradicted by Ino's thoughts during the match; I quoteKibi may not have been able to use it in combat, but she studied what knowledge there was available enough to craft a strategy to beat it.
That is not at all what I meant. My point was not that Kibi studying Jyuuken and using Jyuuken is what made Naji cautious, it's how she used it in her gentaijutsu. Yes, she studied it. What it ultimately came to was not her using Jyuuken for taijutsu to beat a Hyuuga, but her using her knowledge of Jyuuken to apply her gentaijutsu.
Or that your opponent really is that good.
Kibi v Neji had Neji winning by abandoning his clan specialty of Jyuuken, and using other taijutsu.
Once again, us losing on our clan specialty is bad. It's a sign that someone else is beating the next clan heiress. That's a political suckerpunch.
And Neji didn't lose by being beaten at his own game, which we would.
I will point out that we didn't notice Kankuro's puppet was aping a proctor until it moved, something no one else has been able to pull on us.
I will also point out that Furiko said during the exam that she forgot we should had notice, so muddled waters.
Again, I have made the point that he does not need to beat us, just stalemate us long enough for alternatives to work.
And if an opponent has some familiarity with your strategy, the smart thing is to change it.
And frankly, someone who insists on pride as a motivating factor for artificially increasing the difficulty factor of a mission is not suitable to lead a team.
Forget pride as a motivating factor, this is supposed to be our specialty. We are not supposed to be delusional about the extent of our skill to the point where we can't get dissemble and defuse whatever mental jutsu someone with far less knowledge and experience can throw our way. We should be
exactly that good and be living up to our clan's hype.
The failure here would not be pride; it would be us not being as good as we're expected to be, especially if we max out Throne.
He worked around it by not using Jyuuken.
Which is my point.
Again: so what? It wasn't a taijutsu match or a kind of match where, say, Lee vs Neji and Lee kicks Neji's ass. That's an embarrassment for Neji because with his haxx style, he should be kicking ass because he's good and GF is haxx. He's expected to have it under control.
Or, perhaps more accurate, Ino beating him while she's using Jyuuken against his Jyuuken.
In fact we have even more expectation to dominate because mental stuff like this is a hell of a lot more rare and we should be leagues beyond everyone else in our age group, so we damn well better be.
Mental static, AFAICT, does not compromise senses; it adds an additional source of input to distract/overload your attention.
Yes, that's the point. I think shoving loads of unwanted mental static at a person that they can't do jack about cause they're stuck in our mental palace counts as compromised.
No, we are not supposed to be completely invincible in this arena. Ibiki can apparently beat us around if we'd tried possessing him. He rubs elbows with Inoichi. He's with Konoha. He's got the background and experience.
Someone not from around here? And we're getting cold feet cause maybe he has his own super-secret construct of trick that's gonna ruin our shit?
Yeah, no. There's a level of risk in everything we do. If we max out Throne and hit Master, which I suspect we will if e fill stuff up, then I am not going to wring my hands in indecision because I don't get Kankuro's trick. We've got a co-pilot, we've got the history and teachers to maximize our potential. Go for it.