SoCar37
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Its on the CaerAzkaban Groups.io site.
https://caerazkaban.groups.io/g/main/files/The Scourge from the North
SoCar37
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Thanks, but also, that link keeps sending me to that group's main page.Its on the CaerAzkaban Groups.io site.
https://caerazkaban.groups.io/g/main/files/The Scourge from the North
SoCar37
"Prepared in Mind and Resources"
You may have to sign up for the group to get access,Thanks, but also, that link keeps sending me to that group's main page.
Is it meant to?
That did it.
Because with the specific threat removed she's not in any more danger then the average muggleborn, possibly less (since even if Harry's influence is unofficial anyone checking will find out about it, and think twice if they want to piss off Harry).
now, it is weird that no one is trying to convince her parents about the danger, have them force herm change plans.
Nope. Hermione is wrong, there is a significant, and realistic danger that Harry wishes to protect her from, but Hermione's actions aren't the sort of suicidal stupidity some readers are treating it as, merely highly risky and somewhat ill advised behavior.
Nope. Hermione is wrong, there is a significant, and realistic danger that Harry wishes to protect her from, but Hermione's actions aren't the sort of suicidal stupidity some readers are treating it as, merely highly risky and somewhat ill advised behavior.
The teachers aren't responsible for "Harry and his friends" they're responsible for all the students, and are aware that most likely at least one of their students is going to disappear over the summer and they can't do anything about that.
If someone asked for their opinion on Hermione's choices they'd give it, but as it is I doubt most of them know she has a choice other than "hope bad luck strikes someone else".
Snape knows about Harry's plan, but since it's a good plan that provides long term benefits and gives Hermione more freedom he has no reason to intervene.
I like this story very much, even if it has taken quite a bit of tonal shift from the original author's beginning.
Because for nearly all the students there isn't anything they can do. The ones who know Hermione has a choice assume it's being handled.Risky and ill-advised behavior... that is only being advised against by Harry.
The ones who know Hermione has a choice assume it's being handled.
Warning Muggleborn children about the dangers would be like warning kids about the dangers of living in a country being threatened by nukes - there's nothing they can do about it and it will only upset the kids for no good reason.
No matter where you live, I bet kidnappings, murders and street thefts happen there too don't they? Yet you still go out now and again don't you?
Does that make you an idiot then?
No, it makes you an idiot. That's the same logic as, hey, there are deadly diseases all the time, why not go out in the middle of a pandemic? There are gangs targeting my demographic you say? How about I ignore that? The recent increase in rain is causing flooding? That'll never happen to my house.
Because the level of risk never changes, even when it does.
In terms of risk factor, Hermione is just one more person living in the Favelas. And even then people there don't take excessively more precautions than most others if it comes at the expense of their other living concerns.
From what little I know about the Favelas, they do.
If nothing else, they pay their protection money, and are vastly more willing to dive for cover ASAP, than in safer places.
In terms of risk factor, Hermione is just one more person living in the Favelas. And even then people there don't take excessively more precautions than most others if it comes at the expense of their other living concerns.
Becoming a permanent barnacle to Harry in perpetuity as argued by some posters here certainly qualifies as excessive.
Paying protection money and diving for cover when trouble breaks out is not what I consider excessively more for living in a higher risk crime heavy environment.
Becoming a permanent barnacle to Harry in perpetuity as argued by some posters here certainly qualifies as excessive.
Even if they had the means, it'd be unlikely the Favela inhabitants would do the equivalent and always walk around in lvl 4 body armor and carry enough long arms to start a war.
Nope.Thus, if this is correct, Harry's the paranoid one and Hermione (or rather, her parents) are making a solid judgement call on her safety.
Hermione's parents would almost certainly have come down on things differently --- likely by taking time off to accompany them all on the road trip and avoiding the issue entirely --- but they have not been consulted on the matter.
The thing I find the strangest is that Hermione's parents weren't informed of the risks she would face outside Hogwarts when they were first contacted.
Because it's a classic trope of this literature gender.I can follow the logic chain, more or less, right up until:
Here. Why not? One ten-minute phone-call or apparition visit by Dumbledore (already directly involved in this whole Hermione security situation, even if he's keeping it quiet!) any teacher (like the ones involved in Hermione's top-cover heading off to a different continent), Snape, Hermione, Harry, Abigail, or any of the Goblins or other employees he's roped into this mess could see this whole thing done with right-quick. Hermione's parents either tell her to stick with Harry, or they disregard the warnings, want her home with them, and Harry and Hermione do the Contract anyway as a make-sure.
Really, from a Dolyist standpoint, I can see what you're going for here: deeper connections between Harry and Hermione, toss in some drama, showcasing a dangerous world as appropriately dangerous, etc. But... when that drama and danger is not because of the number and capability of malignant forces, but because the 'good guys' can't use basic communications even when someone's life and freedom is on the line... it sort of breaks down hard. You have extreme measures being utilized, not because extreme measures are necessary, but because the simpler measures just sort of get... forgotten about. It calls into question the competence of all involved; when those people are supposed to be competent adults... well, thence leads Adults Are Useless and any number of kids-book tropes that are part of what made the original HP canon such a schizophrenic mess.
Now, if Harry and Abigail or anyone else did contact her parents, and they acknowledge the risk and decide to have Hermione come home anyway, that sort of solves the whole problem and lets the good guys remain at least vaguely competent... but that doesn't let the narrative hang the whole decision on the stubbornness of a thirteen-year-old girl.
It really seems like the entire point of the whole drama here is to showcase Hermione's stubbornness and character flaws, but it deeply undercuts the competence and agency of so many other characters that it's probably not worth it.
Because it's a classic trope of this literature gender.
When was the last time you read a teen/young adult novel with teen protag(s) that also include both competent and active (...and not evil) adults, let alone parents?
It really seems like the entire point of the whole drama here is to showcase Hermione's stubbornness and character flaws, but it deeply undercuts the competence and agency of so many other characters that it's probably not worth it.