Governor's Gambit - Star Wars SI into Imperial Governor

[Graedoh]

Funny thing is in her path to prove her way works, she'll probably be working up the ladder and while doing so she'll see that actual skill and loyalty is rewarded and people actually want to do good work when treated well. That's how I read this going at least. It'd be so funny if she learned empathy seeing her son trying to help people that, unknown to him, were like her growing up.

 

[Blackenedthorn]

Jir needs to learn that she's know playing in Las' game and he wrote all the rules, that said I can see her eventually running a traditionally imperial pub and restaurant

 

[Freefaller]

Who the fuck is this guy? Has he appeared before or is he just some rando created to show a "street-level" POV?

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So, one thing I do is during Interludes I'll include the POV of throwaway street level characters to show the events of the wider empire, or the effects of what Las is doing. This is one of them.

 

[Freefaller]

I can't wait to see the Harrower class/closs equivalent to it. Hope to see some images of this ship. When swtor trailer came out, featuring the harrower class, I instantly fell in love with that ship, soo badass.

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Yeah over on space battles there was one guy who kept asking for the Harrower class any time ship discussion came up so I said if he could write an argumentative essay on why the Harrower should be included then I'd find a way to include it. and he did just that. so here we are.

 

[readsalot]

Yeah over on space battles there was one guy who kept asking for the Harrower class any time ship discussion came up so I said if he could write an argumentative essay on why the Harrower should be included then I'd find a way to include it. and he did just that. so here we are.

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Hahahaha
That's brilliant, my thanks to that guy
Out of curiosity did he post that on SB or just sent it privately? At most if I had to say on that topic is that: it's awesome bruah you gotta do it!!!

 

[Yacov]

If Jir would only explain to her children where she came from, what she did to give them their starts in life but no all she did was bark orders.

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Shame is a powerful motivation to keep quiet. Jir probably thought talking about her old life would be admitting weakness. A look at who she was outside this dominating persona she built for herself.

She claims this new persona is not the "survivalist mindset" of when she was in the Underlevels, but we can see how the paranoia and the need to protect strength to intimidate everyone from that time got built into how she acted now.

Yeah over on space battles there was one guy who kept asking for the Harrower class any time ship discussion came up so I said if he could write an argumentative essay on why the Harrower should be included then I'd find a way to include it. and he did just that. so here we are.

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Never underestimate the lengths some forum members will go. I have seen some quest plans with more math work put into it than some university algebra and statistics exams.

 

[AmericanNumbers]

One of my pet star wars theory is that the force is personally offended by the republic trying to muzzle it and life thru bureaucracy and the Jedi and it's interesting that our protagonist is setting up a much freer form of living while actively having a dark sider bodyguard and a wild force user pet. Need to bring in some light siders to get the full balance.

 

[Wratus]

Also, the next chapter will have some R&D stuff, and the long awaited Harrower-Class that some have been clamoring for. It won't really be the Harrower class, not truly, but as close as one can get realistically. It's not going to be built yet, just a concept and all, but its set up and all that for later down the line.

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YEEEESSSSSSSS finally we get what I guess is the Harrower II-class, since the original while would be good if one just retrofitted it with more modern components and weapons, it would make more sense if say the same R&D personnel that found and submitted schematics for the Starfighter from the same era, where to find the original Harrower-class Dreadnaught schematics and start to modernize and rework it into a upgraded design.

 

[Watching]

the next chapter will have some R&D stuff, and the long awaited Harrower-Class that some have been clamoring for

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Yay, the long awaited R&D stuff is next!

Hang on, why are we bringing back and modernizing an old republic era battlecruiser? Did we run out of fan art of imperial ships to steal from devianart?

He's a dead man walking, is what. Slave-trading kriff-shitter.

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Ehh… it could just be exotic animal smuggling and poaching.

 

[saylin021]

I mostly just feel pity for Jir Mola.

She reminds me of some immigrant parents, where they do everything in their power to give their kids better prospects due to how they themselves grew up, without realizing that they're destroying themselves and their family.

And like she said, she did succeed. All of her children are highly competent, successful, and important. Her family is what success looked like to her as a child, because that trauma never really leaves.

But it's hollow since it came at the expense of love and family.

So yeah, I just feel kinda sad for her and her whole life.

 

[Freefaller]

Hahahaha
That's brilliant, my thanks to that guy
Out of curiosity did he post that on SB or just sent it privately? At most if I had to say on that topic is that: it's awesome bruah you gotta do it!!!

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It's posted on the SB version of the story, under the Informational Tab. Its labelled Harrower Mafia Thesis, and its in 3 parts.

 

[AldariSiradla]

The ghosts of the Force say it thus...
"Cope and seethe!"

Looks like our dear Moff needs to clean house, again.
Bloody molds and weeds and pests popping up, our dear Moff Mola will have ORDER, dammit!

 

[Mistroz]

Excellent chapter.

 

[noblej7]

Harrower and gladiator have similar enough appearance you can just upsize the harrower I guess for an imitation. The Secutor class is designed to be a replacement for the Venator but never got much made compared to the Imperial class that the military leadership preferred. It could carry 144 starfighters at 2200 meters it's larger than an ISD but lightly armed for its size as it priorized being a carrier. A harrower imitation could essentially take the middle ground between the Secutor and gladiator class being more in line with a Venator but with updated tech and a visual design of the cut middle of the pointed section of the triangle.

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Secutor images:

Reference gladiator at 600 meters already in the story. So a custom harrower class imitation you indicated in last chapter could be about Venator sized but wider like a sector and more focused on carrier role to keep costs lower. Probably escorted by gladiators since they were designed to help escort Venators when not handling remote areas as a capital ship.

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harrowers were 800 meters so it could be smaller than a Venator class to avoid too much cost and bad PR for being too much like a venator

 

[kano547]

If Jir would only explain to her children where she came from, what she did to give them their starts in life

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Nothing that she could have possibly went through would justify raising children that genuinely, and apparently accurately, believe that their mother would murder them without a second thought if they don't live their lives the way she wants them to.

 

[Wratus]

Well at least I know that we have big enough shipyard slips to construct a full size Harrower-class cuz I just cheeked the sizes of the Acclamator I-class and the Onager-class Star Destroyer, since we bought and transported the slips from Rothana Heavy Engineering and they where capable of constructing these two ship types in em.

Acclamator I-class Assault Ship
Length: 752 meters (2,467 ft 2 in)
Width: 460 meters (1,509 ft 2 in )
Hight/depth: 183 meters (600 ft 5 in) (in flight)
Role: Planetary assault vessel

Onager-class Star Destroyer
Length: 1.288 meters (4225.72 ft)
Width: Approximately 430 meters (1410.76 ft) for the main hull and 900 meters (2952.76 ft) for the hammerhead bow section.
Hight/depth: 150 meters (492.13 ft)
Role: Planetary siege vessel

As we can see these two vessel types aren't actually small so and then we have the

Harrower-class Dreadnaught/Heavy Cruiser
Length: 800 meters (2624.67 ft)
Width: 433 meters (1420.60 ft)
Hight/depth: 151 meters (495.41 ft)
Role: Capital ship, warship

I'm including these just for fun since I was already at this... Long live the Empire.

Terminus-class Destroyer (Cruiser)
Length: 500 meters (1640.42 ft) to 600 meters (1968.50 ft)
Width: 150 meters (492.13 ft) to 220 meters (721.78 ft)
Hight/depth: No information available on my end
Role: Capital ship(Darth Marr used one as his flagship), patrol, escort and frontline vessel.

Gage-class Transport
Length, width and hight/depth is not listed on wookiepedia but it's described as smaller than the Terminus-class. If we go by Star Wars rpg sites it's length is 425 meters (1394.36 ft)
Primary role is to transport troops and starfighters to battlefields with less emphasis on firepower.
Capacity: Approximately 1,000 troops and 12 starfighters (standard); can be reconfigured to 2,000 troops or 24 starfighters.

So as we can see the standard Harrower is about on the same size as a Acclamator, but some sources claim that there where longer variants of the Harrower with a length up to 1.100 meters (3608.92 ft) and then there where the smaller BSX-5 Dreadnaught with a length of 600 meters (1968.50 ft).
Now @Freefaller I read on SB that you felt that creating a full modernized standard Harrower wouldn't be possible at the moment in the story so it would have a reduced size, but if we go by the BSX-5 variant the reduced size really nerfs it's carrying capacity but that can just be cuz the only ship of that variant we have seen in the game is the Dominator which was the flagship of Darth Jadus, and it's entirely possible that it just didn't have full complement of starfighters, bombers and shuttles when it's encountered and thus the wiki doesn't know it's full carrying capacity.

But hey at least the good news is that the Mindan Shipyards can in fact construct Star Destroyer sized ships since they did construct the Onager-class when under Rothana Heavy Engineering. And if the question on how one or a few of our R&D guys have schematics of either incomplete or complete Reconstituted Sith Empire(RSE) hardware such as starfighters, bombers, shuttles and starships both large and small comes up, the answer can actually be really simple. The Myto sector as far as I can tell was right on the border with Imperial controlled space during the Great Galactic War leading up to the Treaty of Coruscant, I don't know how many planets in the Myto sector and it's neighbouring sectors where Imperial or Republic held after the treaty, but it wouldn't surprise me if some of em where Imperial and had intact enough ruins with barely functioning databases from that time period. So maybe a few of our guys are from one of those worlds or are from former RSE heartland worlds if you will that still had maybe not fully intact databases from the RSE, but good enough for these guys to have been able to extract tangible and functional data and ended up moving to Minda cuz Laz promised at the start pretty much unrestricted to a point R&D and they wanted to recreate the tech from the RSE times.

 

[Yacov]

Omake: Echo Chamber in the Dark

POV: Initiate Qworo, Noocratic Philosophic Front base, Fogoru, Myto sector

"Tell me my student, how go our preparations?"

Initiate Qworo remained bowed to his Pedagogue, Grand Tutor Flintriso. A glimpse of the turquoise cloth of an Initiate still a source of pride. Months of searching had brought him to this now elusive breed of Fogorun. The once revered class of scholar-rulers on the planet driven to near extinction after the Empire declared the Teachings a threat to security and order. Pedagogues were cast out from their Hallowed Halls of Wisdom with the coming of the Empire.

Yet enlightenment cannot be so easily snuffed out. While the purges ravaged the cities as the Offworld Devils sought to impose their will, the Empire's destructiveness worked against them. In the their rush to smother the flame of wisdom, they failed to learn of a series of hidden retreats in the mountains for the Pedagogues' contemplation. Physical copies of the Teachings and even the rare Pedagogue were obscured from the Empire ever dim eye by those that remained faithful. These compounds were cut off from the world and its modern luxuries like the HoloNet and the planetary power grid. Their households of dedicated and pious servants served as the fertile soil from which the NPF has sprouted.

"They progress greatly my Pedagogue. The unenlightened Imperials grow ever more distracted by the pirate menace. We have been able to secure a shipment of detonite for our school under their lax customs officials."

Truly the Great Work favors our cause. The schools of the NPF had managed to secure stockpiles of chepatite in the past. Perfect to deliver correction to the Imperials' foot soldiers via explosive micro-rockets. However their walkers and repulsorcraft remained frustratingly out of reach. Now with detonite we may seed the roads and fortifications with explosive devices which will blossom into their destruction.

"Good, good. The time of the Grand Lesson draws ever closer. For too long have the Empire and their collaborators have taken Fogoru down an unwise path. It pains the world and us to see the stewardship we Pedagogues were entrusted with be conducted so poorly. Yet for the sake of the Grand Lesson, we have stayed our hands."

Qworo still remembers the day the Philosopher Elder Council was disbanded. The once masters of Fogoru dragged out in chains as dusty scrolls and ancient datapads were burned in great bonfires littering the capital's plazas. His mother stared at the fires from the rooftop and wept throughout the whole night.

Any hope of the Imperials possessing wisdom died in their first decree. That their sacred world of learning and wisdom dedicate itself to the base practice of pulling resources from the earth as a mining world. Not only were the Offworld Devils seeking to suppress the enlightenment of the Teachings, they sought to defile and plunder our sacred lands for the sake of building more of their demonic void vessels. His Pedagogue had taught all in his school that nothing good ever descended from the inky blackness above. No matter how much the Imperials claimed we were one species.

Being given the same classification as the lesser worlds around Fogoru caused many of his peers to tear their cloaks and protest in the streets. Only for the Empire to send these enlightened souls as the first wave to the mines. Their only crime rightfully expressing offense at being equated to the unenlightened savages that lived in ignorance around them. Qworo could only hope to emulate a tenth of the courage they had demonstrated in their martyrdom.

"Your words are the Great Work's message my Pedagogue. Even the uneducated masses driven far from the cities see the wisdom of NPF's cause. Overseers in the mines are blinded by met quotas and a lack of disorder. The unwise collaborators attempting to impose Imperial control only care for sating their indulgences like the fools they are. Never suspecting that there might be extra mined ore that now fills our coffers."

It pained Qworo how the Grand Lesson would be funded by the oppression of the enlightened. Yet do not the Teachings say suffering is a teacher of its own? It was one aspect of Imperial ideology that the Teachings could consider wise. For how would the unenlightened be brought out of their comfortable ignorance without pain? And should those unenlightened still resist or seek to betray us to the unwise? The Imperials were quite tolerant of workplace accidents in the mines.

For as his Pedagogue has preached, the Grand Lesson will not be for the Offworld Devils alone, but to all who reside on Fogoru. Correction is to be delivered upon Devil and unwise, treacherous collaborator and faithless bystander, from elder to babe, until all learn the wisdom of the Grand Lesson. Those that endure will flock back to the Teachings' embrace as the NPF demonstrates the power and righteousness of its cause.

"Yes the other Pedagogues have sent me messages of similar sentiments. Those that wish to join our school may be given the traditional flensing of the finger and be initiated. Our stores of arms are plentiful enough that they may yet play an active role in the Grand Lesson."

A smile crossed Qworo's lips at the fortune of their school. While they did not have the Tibanna gas to outfit their initiates with blasters, the more traditional slugthrower was easier to source. An Offworld Devil from Czerka Arms showed a twinkling of enlightenment by granting us to access to many 6-2Aug2 hunting rifles. Where the retreat's craftsmen once spent days crafting exquisite metal tea bowls for ceremonies, now they just as zealously dedicate their minds and bodies to produce bullets and spare parts in preparation for the Grand Lesson.

"The day the Grand Lesson can commence grows ever closer. I would gladly give my life to ensure the future where you and the other Pedagogues sit on the restored Philosopher Elder Council to dispense enlightened rule to Fogoru once more! Please use me body and soul my Pedagogue!"

A ghost of a smile finally passed his Pedagogue's lips. These decades of hiding and planning must have been so hard on him. This retreat in the mountains must pale in comparison of the Halls of Wisdom he once resided in. The thought of everything finally coming together must bring joy a thousandfold compared to what Qworo feels.

"You truly are enlightened Initiate Qworo. Once the local Imperial garrison falls, the unenlightened collaborators will crumble as their weak wills will be unable to keep their regime alive unsupported. From there we will have time to reeducate the people of Fogoru and reinforce the world while the Empire's navy is still distracted.

Picture it Qworo. My school shall be ascendant in the Philosopher Elder Council as the Noocracy is reinstated. Enlightenment will spread as the wisest will determine what course Forogu will take. The throngs shall be submerged back into the enlightenment of the Teachings as Fogoru's proper stewards reclaim their mantle once more.

Our world shall be safeguarded forevermore. An Initiate with a slugthrower behind every tree and at every street corner to protect our society from its enemies. Those the Council deem unwise being bound with the Fetters of Fatuity and driven to the darkest corners of society. Mayhaps we may find a use for those mines once all those Offworld Devils are driven back into the inky blackness. No longer will they taint our sacred planet with their demonic void vessels as landing areas will be lined with detonite before a single Devil can set foot on our blessed soil."

Qworo could see it. The vision his Pedagogue wished to instill into this humble initiate. A utopia based on the Teachings with no Republic or Empire to degrade their people. Encasing their world against the forces who wish to pollute it and purging it of the rot within. Truly this what the schools strived for in pursing the Great Work.

"I understand my Pedagogue. I eagerly await the day this vision becomes a reality. The Empire cannot be driven off Fogoru soon enough."

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This Omake was an attempt to make a minor local antagonist group that could escalate to the point that the new Moff might have to step in. The hardest part was coming up with a kind of group that hasn't rebelled against the Empire a dozen times already. There are bound to be groups within the sector who hate the Empire and see the current destabilization as a chance to stage an uprising while their back is turned even if the Rebel Alliance is not involving itself.

The NPF are meant to demonstrate what can happen when there is no outside voice, like the Rebel Alliance advocating a Hearts and Minds strategy, to moderate discussion. Views can spiral into extremism when everything is being discussed in an Echo Chamber, hence the name of the Omake. Qworo exemplifies this by showing how being locked in an isolated compound filled with fanatics for over a decade with minimized outside contact can shift your view of the world and your place in it.

Crossposted on SB and SV

 

[Andrew1993]

Eh ngl im pretty ambivalent on harrower never really fell in love with it, its just a meh ship for me, the ship i fell in love with was the centurion at least for the old republic stuff, fav modern ship is def the Venator, a fast well shielded carrier with a fair punch in the main batteries is just awesome

 

[Freefaller]

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So, the slips of the MARD are 2km by 1km, iirc. as for the Harrower expy, its not going to be the Harrower itself, as though they got schematics. its just going to be a ship that looks a lot like a Harrower but is called something else. I was thinking some sort of mix between a Gladiator and Victory would end up as a Harrower of sorts.

 

[noblej7]

So, the slips of the MARD are 2km by 1km, iirc. as for the Harrower expy, its not going to be the Harrower itself, as though they got schematics. its just going to be a ship that looks a lot like a Harrower but is called something else. I was thinking some sort of mix between a Gladiator and Victory would end up as a Harrower of sorts.

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Victory is in a similar length class as the harrower was. Although if you want something to take the lead more in line with imperial star destroyer without actually using one as the flagship you can use the star destroyer at home:
Procursator-Class Star Destroyer:The Procursator-Class was
commissioned just before the fall of the Empire to operate as a cheaper alternative to
the Imperial-Class for a role as a command ship for smaller flotillas of vessels. This ship
is often underestimated, and commonly considered as simply a cheap imitation of an
ISD, which is why many opposing forces are caught off guard by the sheer amount of
weaponry bristling across its 1200 meter hull, consisting of 3 heavy triple turbolaser
batteries, 9 heavy dual turbolaser battery, 4 heavy twin ion cannons, 20 turbolasers, 20
ion cannons, 8 quad laser cannons, and 4 proton torpedo tubes, as well as a
complement of 24 starfighter

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