Questions about unwritten rules

[Childe Roland]

Pursuant to the discussion about unwritten rules in the QQ rants thread (kicked off here, and continued through (at the time of this posting) to this page, I was wondering about a couple of matters and would greatly appreciate clarification on them:

1) If I see someone going straight up "F' the rules, I don't care about them, and I don't care if I break them," should I bring that to the mods attention, or do the mods prefer to let such users accumulate enough infractions to trigger a ban naturally?

2) I don't see anything in the rules about bad faith debating, so is there an unwritten rule about that, does it fall under an existing rule (rule 1, maybe?), or is it a case of "just stop interacting with them" instead?

Edit: Fixed a link.

 

[LurkingInTheDeceit]

Not speaking for the whole moderation team here - I'm still very new - but:

1) If I see someone going straight up "F' the rules, I don't care about them, and I don't care if I break them," should I bring that to the mods attention, or do the mods prefer to let such users accumulate enough infractions to trigger a ban naturally?

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From what I've seen, we don't punish people for roleplaying like they're too cool for school, we just don't show them much, if any, leniency when deciding what punishments we give them for actually punishment-worthy behaviour. That doesn't mean banning them necessarily, but it might mean threadbanning, or a mute/temp-ban, where we'd usually just give a warning.

Of course, if they accompany that 'I don't care' attitude with a challenge to ban them, we'll very generously grant their wish.

2) I don't see anything in the rules about bad faith debating, so is there an unwritten rule about that, does it fall under an existing rule (rule 1, maybe?), or is it a case of "just stop interacting with them" instead?

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There's nothing specifically about bad faith debating. If they're derailing the thread, or refusing to drop topics when OPs have requested them to, that's a Rule 5 issue. If they're insulting others, that'd be Rule 1, though there's more leeway in Rants.

 

[alethiophile]

Cosign both of these.

 

[Childe Roland]

From what I've seen, we don't punish people for roleplaying like they're too cool for school, we just don't show them much, if any, leniency when deciding what punishments we give them for actually punishment-worthy behaviour.

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So, I should just let it happen naturally, then. I thought that might be the case after the guy in the QQ Rants thread said he'd never read the rules, and implied that he didn't care/intend to, and two mods commented on the topic without anything happening, but I wanted to be sure.

There's nothing specifically about bad faith debating.

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Okay, just wanted to be sure I hadn't missed something/overlooked a detail.

Thanks for clarifying all of that.

Cosign both of these.

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And thank you for confirming.