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Rogue One. Urg. I didn't really like anything in it.
Characters: I felt bad for Jyn at the start, what with losing her parents. After the timeskip I didn't care for anyone much. Rebel spy man soured me when he shot his spy buddy in the back, and that impression was worsened by him attacking the Rebel group going after the Imperial hovertank. I was a bit shocked that the film put him as the male lead.
I often confused Rebel spy man with Imperial pilot guy, who I felt bad for after he got his brain sucked out, but didn't care much about afterwards. Blind oriental Jedi annoyed me with his chanting. Heavy weapons guy didn't have a character. The robot was okay, but didn't have anyone he played off well.
The portrayal of the Rebel as willing to dirty their hands to get the job done makes them seem little better than the Empire. They both use effectively the same recruiting tactics when they have someone who doesn't want to be involved. I really hated this, as I felt that this lowered the Rebel's moral high ground significantly. Previously there was no evidence of forced recruiting. Now all they have is that the Empire has too much of a love of Strategic weapon use. (Which is to say, destruction of enemy civilian centers, instead of just military targets.) I can't remember them using strategic weapons before the Deathstar blows up the desert city, which they wouldn't have known about without the mission.
That means that the Rebellion is essentially just another Separatist movement, except that their stated goal is to overthrow the legally operating government. Remember that at that time there were still elections to the Imperial Senate, so you still had a vote that counted.
Plot: Far too many obvious issues. The main one being that the Rebellion essentially says that they won't go to steal the plans, it's not worth the lives, but one transport with a dozen troops on it is worth spending a fleet on.
The hyper fast X-wing deployment to the research base also bugged me. Jyn suddenly, after one mission, became a trusted member of the Rebellion, and wants to save people she didn't care about because her father left a weak point in a battlestation for her to find.
Tech: Blasters aren't lethal anymore, just sorta wounding. It did happen in RotJ to Leia, but it feels like every non-mook is now largely immune to them. Now that getting shot isn't actually fatal a lot of tension is lost.
U-wings are a bad design. The wings deploy once or twice in the film, but for no apparent reason. They aren't related to hyperspace, as the craft goes into FTL with them in and out, and they're not for atmospheric use, as they aren't reliably deployed there either.
Cameos and touching the fan's collective penis: These ranged between invisible and inoffensive, to completely annoying. Leia was an unneeded addition to the film, and she looked worse than Tarkin. Having her ship be the one that escapes with the data makes Vader look like a calm idiot at the start of Hope. Vader was a poorly chosen addition to this film, he doesn't have enough to do to make his place worthwhile. I can't realistically believe that he'd allow the data thing to escape him when it's in the same hallway is laughable.
Misc: Halfway through the film my brain stopped for a second, then alerted me to a fact. I didn't care about any of the characters. Jyn got sucked into a group that made her join by threatening her with prison. The other five were... there.
The speech given before the suicide mission was terrible. It was essentially 'we've all done awful things to try to take these guys down, so we HAVE to keep doing awful things to make the ones we did before meaningful.' It made me think of someone saying, 'well, I've beaten my wife for three years, if I stop now it was all pointless.' What a shitty speech, with a shitty message.
Characters: I felt bad for Jyn at the start, what with losing her parents. After the timeskip I didn't care for anyone much. Rebel spy man soured me when he shot his spy buddy in the back, and that impression was worsened by him attacking the Rebel group going after the Imperial hovertank. I was a bit shocked that the film put him as the male lead.
I often confused Rebel spy man with Imperial pilot guy, who I felt bad for after he got his brain sucked out, but didn't care much about afterwards. Blind oriental Jedi annoyed me with his chanting. Heavy weapons guy didn't have a character. The robot was okay, but didn't have anyone he played off well.
The portrayal of the Rebel as willing to dirty their hands to get the job done makes them seem little better than the Empire. They both use effectively the same recruiting tactics when they have someone who doesn't want to be involved. I really hated this, as I felt that this lowered the Rebel's moral high ground significantly. Previously there was no evidence of forced recruiting. Now all they have is that the Empire has too much of a love of Strategic weapon use. (Which is to say, destruction of enemy civilian centers, instead of just military targets.) I can't remember them using strategic weapons before the Deathstar blows up the desert city, which they wouldn't have known about without the mission.
That means that the Rebellion is essentially just another Separatist movement, except that their stated goal is to overthrow the legally operating government. Remember that at that time there were still elections to the Imperial Senate, so you still had a vote that counted.
Plot: Far too many obvious issues. The main one being that the Rebellion essentially says that they won't go to steal the plans, it's not worth the lives, but one transport with a dozen troops on it is worth spending a fleet on.
The hyper fast X-wing deployment to the research base also bugged me. Jyn suddenly, after one mission, became a trusted member of the Rebellion, and wants to save people she didn't care about because her father left a weak point in a battlestation for her to find.
Tech: Blasters aren't lethal anymore, just sorta wounding. It did happen in RotJ to Leia, but it feels like every non-mook is now largely immune to them. Now that getting shot isn't actually fatal a lot of tension is lost.
U-wings are a bad design. The wings deploy once or twice in the film, but for no apparent reason. They aren't related to hyperspace, as the craft goes into FTL with them in and out, and they're not for atmospheric use, as they aren't reliably deployed there either.
Cameos and touching the fan's collective penis: These ranged between invisible and inoffensive, to completely annoying. Leia was an unneeded addition to the film, and she looked worse than Tarkin. Having her ship be the one that escapes with the data makes Vader look like a calm idiot at the start of Hope. Vader was a poorly chosen addition to this film, he doesn't have enough to do to make his place worthwhile. I can't realistically believe that he'd allow the data thing to escape him when it's in the same hallway is laughable.
Misc: Halfway through the film my brain stopped for a second, then alerted me to a fact. I didn't care about any of the characters. Jyn got sucked into a group that made her join by threatening her with prison. The other five were... there.
The speech given before the suicide mission was terrible. It was essentially 'we've all done awful things to try to take these guys down, so we HAVE to keep doing awful things to make the ones we did before meaningful.' It made me think of someone saying, 'well, I've beaten my wife for three years, if I stop now it was all pointless.' What a shitty speech, with a shitty message.
