BigBoom550
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From what I recall on the Mandalorians... (Mando Wars era)
Mandalorians are good soldiers. That's the thing people are forgetting. They're better than the Republic soldiers. Not the level of disparity between, say, the USMC and Roman Legions, but they're better. Their average soldiers are better, and their 'peak' soldiers are better than the Republic peak. Now, that said, the Mandalorians are terrible armies.
"But you just said-"
A good soldier does not always a good army make.
The Mandalorians are caught up in their ideas of honor and glory, to start with. They want to earn prestige, glory, tales of bravery and skill and 'HOLY SHIT LOOK AT ME DOODS'. A Mandalorian attack is more akin to a riot than an actual, organized attack. Further, the Mandalorians love to equalize the field before they attack- so they'll spam droids to soften the target, before they themselves attack. Make it a 'fair' fight.
The Outer Rim wars were critical to Revan because he saw what was happening- the Mandalorians were snowballing. They weren't all that strong, but would gain industrial capacity and force with every new system conquered. Combine this with the Republic army being... basically peacekeepers at this point more than an actual army, and you can begin to see why the Republic was getting their ass kicked in engagements. The Mandalorians were continuously ramping up, and the Republic was growing demoralized.
Revan decided enough was enough and stepped in. Under his guidance, he shaped battles to play to his strengths and the Mando's weaknesses.
Notice how the Clones- Mandalorians with none of that 'glory obsession'- kicked ass? This is why.
Now, as for the claim that TOR retconned Revan's motivation? Untrue. That would be at the latest in Kotor 2, when Kreia makes mention of the True Sith and Revan going out to fight them. Bastila and Carth also discuss it in a cutscene.
Speaking of.. with Kreia, it's not all lies. Factual information might be presented through a lens, but as long as it doesn't regard the Force itself, Kreia's usually pretty on the mark. Further, she never outright lies to you, just omits information, in much the same way as Ben Kenobi did. "From a certain point of view" sort of shit. Again, though, that's in regards to non-Force stuff.
Mandalorians are good soldiers. That's the thing people are forgetting. They're better than the Republic soldiers. Not the level of disparity between, say, the USMC and Roman Legions, but they're better. Their average soldiers are better, and their 'peak' soldiers are better than the Republic peak. Now, that said, the Mandalorians are terrible armies.
"But you just said-"
A good soldier does not always a good army make.
The Mandalorians are caught up in their ideas of honor and glory, to start with. They want to earn prestige, glory, tales of bravery and skill and 'HOLY SHIT LOOK AT ME DOODS'. A Mandalorian attack is more akin to a riot than an actual, organized attack. Further, the Mandalorians love to equalize the field before they attack- so they'll spam droids to soften the target, before they themselves attack. Make it a 'fair' fight.
The Outer Rim wars were critical to Revan because he saw what was happening- the Mandalorians were snowballing. They weren't all that strong, but would gain industrial capacity and force with every new system conquered. Combine this with the Republic army being... basically peacekeepers at this point more than an actual army, and you can begin to see why the Republic was getting their ass kicked in engagements. The Mandalorians were continuously ramping up, and the Republic was growing demoralized.
Revan decided enough was enough and stepped in. Under his guidance, he shaped battles to play to his strengths and the Mando's weaknesses.
Notice how the Clones- Mandalorians with none of that 'glory obsession'- kicked ass? This is why.
Now, as for the claim that TOR retconned Revan's motivation? Untrue. That would be at the latest in Kotor 2, when Kreia makes mention of the True Sith and Revan going out to fight them. Bastila and Carth also discuss it in a cutscene.
Speaking of.. with Kreia, it's not all lies. Factual information might be presented through a lens, but as long as it doesn't regard the Force itself, Kreia's usually pretty on the mark. Further, she never outright lies to you, just omits information, in much the same way as Ben Kenobi did. "From a certain point of view" sort of shit. Again, though, that's in regards to non-Force stuff.
