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The Once and Future Champion (Baldur's Gate 3/Dragon Age)

neither Orpheus nor I would never abandon our duty
ever
Her voice trailed off quietly. "And Korrilla's soul will still be down here... somewhere. I hope that I can find her, and I hope she'll say that she's sorry. And then I'll tell her that she's forgiven."
Damn. That's an epic degree of loyalty and forgiveness there.
"Another thing that my children turned up in Rivington was a sick and disgusting plot to place smokepowder explosives inside toys being donated to refugee children."
The fuck?! ...Death cultists, man. Just when you think they can't get worse...
"So what you're saying is, we need to start really screwing up to bait her in?" Wyll asked amusedly.

"Why, you got some suggestions?" Karlach teased him.
Zing!
"I thought I'd told you not to try this." I glowered at Wyll. "You're ruining the entire alliance I went to so much trouble to negotiate. The one you agreed with!"
As soon as I saw the "betrayal" start, I knew exactly where this was going, and couldn't stop laughing. Well played!
 
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Takes a whole new meaning to "I trust Hawke enough to die for him."

Also, anyone else think Withers is pleased at how Hawke is using his, well, duty to his advantage? It's quite clear that Withers isn't allowed to assist in anything but resurrection. But...he never once stated rules for that.

A reminder that this is the same bro who throws your ass a party in the epilogue and calls the Dead Three a bitch.
 
The fuck?! ...Death cultists, man. Just when you think they cant get worse...
That's a quest which doesn't get followup in the game's Act 3, actually. You go investigate the fireworks house but nothing is there as a quest trigger to progress stuff - seems to have been content only partially completed which got released. Cliff's route of it being a bunch of crazy folk is pretty reasonable, all said.
 
Takes a whole new meaning to "I trust Hawke enough to die for him."

Also, anyone else think Withers is pleased at how Hawke is using his, well, duty to his advantage? It's quite clear that Withers isn't allowed to assist in anything but resurrection. But...he never once stated rules for that.

A reminder that this is the same bro who throws your ass a party in the epilogue and calls the Dead Three a bitch.

He approved of of Hawke the moment he 'convinced' Withers to rez the kid adventurer as proof of concept, and was sold on him when he came up with the solution to Karlachs dilemma. He is LOVING this.
 
"And once we find him, Orpheus can break him free of the elder brain's control." I agreed. "He can't do that for everyone we meet, but freeing Minsc was not the limit of his available resources. And with the Grand Duke back in his right mind we'd be in a much better position to regain control of all the un-corrupted Flaming Fist than even Florrick could help us do.
Missing the closing quotation mark, and also "better position" doesn't fit very smoothly with "than even Florrick could help us do."

"Worse yet, we may have more problems rescuing anyone from there." Jaheira disagreed. "Another thing that my children turned up in Rivington was a sick and disgusting plot to place smokepowder explosives inside toys being donated to refugee children." She shook her head disgustedly. "Fortunately they discovered this time in to prevent any casualties. The artificer who was sabotaging the toys was being blackmailed into it under threat of death, so we let him go. But he was able to tell them where he was getting his explosives from - a shop named Felogyr's Fireworks, here in the city."
in time
Some of her descriptions of the interactions with this guy use they/them, one we. Did her family run the entire investigation and interrogation themselves and just bring him to her for judgement? But even if so, it would be nice if that was a bit more explicit in the text.

"I had to set the shop on fire afterwards to cover for him. Gortash isn't supposed to suspect that we're still working against him, after all. Hopefully our dear Archduke will either believe it was an explosives accident or else blame Nine-Fingers' people for it." Jaheira sighed. "The relevant part to our prison quest was that large shipments of explosives had been manufactured there recently and shipped out on Gortash's direct orders to a secret facility known only by a code-name - for use as a self-destruct system. Now what kind of facility requires a self-destruct system?"
Valid, but I think switching these words would read slightly better.

Either Gortash had a bit of a blindspot regarding the dangers that humble people serving in obscure positions could potentially pose if you had enough of them, or else Karlach's theory was right that he'd been arranging for good shipments to his secret prison by gray-market means and had only switched to drawing from the Flaming Fist's supply system at the last minute. Once prompted, it only took several hours for Florrick's contacts in the Flaming Fist to turn up the information we needed. The only unaccounted-for shipments of food in sufficient quantities to be supplying a secret prison were all being sent to a waterfront warehouse named Flymm's Cargo. Jaheira's scouting of the building in wildshape late in the afternoon produced the starting revelation that the building was actually a secret docking facility for a gnomish underwater vehicle called a 'submarine'.
I suspect this was intended to be goods - actually, food would make more sense, wouldn't it?
startling

"I've got to get back and start setting up the cover story for the authors. Your clean-up crew can handle everything here. Orin's been laying very uncharacteristically low for the past several days, but she's not going to idle around forever." I said grimly.
others
 
That's a quest which doesn't get followup in the game's Act 3, actually. You go investigate the fireworks house but nothing is there as a quest trigger to progress stuff - seems to have been content only partially completed which got released. Cliff's route of it being a bunch of crazy folk is pretty reasonable, all said.
In game the guys at the fireworks shop are clearly identified as Banites, so it's some of Gortash's people. But why he wants terrorist bomb incidents among refugee children is never gone into, no. So either he's got people going offsides, or else Gortash had an objective the game doesn't tell us about and I can't figure out.

Can't have been random sadism, though. Gortash is evil as fuck, but he very seldom does anything without a purpose.
 
In game the guys at the fireworks shop are clearly identified as Banites, so it's some of Gortash's people. But why he wants terrorist bomb incidents among refugee children is never gone into, no. So either he's got people going offsides, or else Gortash had an objective the game doesn't tell us about and I can't figure out.

Can't have been random sadism, though. Gortash is evil as fuck, but he very seldom does anything without a purpose.
Or it's a splinter cell working to overthrow him so they can take his place. Either or. I personally ascribe to the latter interpretation.
 
In game the guys at the fireworks shop are clearly identified as Banites, so it's some of Gortash's people. But why he wants terrorist bomb incidents among refugee children is never gone into, no. So either he's got people going offsides, or else Gortash had an objective the game doesn't tell us about and I can't figure out.

Can't have been random sadism, though. Gortash is evil as fuck, but he very seldom does anything without a purpose.
He believed selling Karlach to Hell was character-building, he probably thinks blowing up orphaned refugees would help them grow as people.
 
He believed selling Karlach to Hell was character-building, he probably thinks blowing up orphaned refugees would help them grow as people.
In hindsight, he may have been setting up a thing where random chaos heightens fear among the refugees and the population generally, so his stock rebounds higher when his people later on 'bring the miscreants to justice'. It is canon that one of the early phases of Gortash's plan was to have Orin's cultists do some random murdering among the populace so as to make the current leadership of Baldur's Gate look impotent to stop the violence or maintain order, so that Gortash could ride in on his white horse and 'solve' the problem later.

I have previously said that I legitimately admire Gortash as a villain, both because of legitimate competence at the task and because he's got style. And I still do. But this does not change the fact he is an epic piece of shit.
 
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Just started reading this, on chapter 15.

I love that Hawke is a Paladin of being a Paladin. Honor, freedom, responsibility, loyalty, mercy, justice. He doesn't need a god to point him right, he just does it.

Literally every good deity in Faerun: "Finally someone gets it!"

Though if any one deity gets to claim his soul later on, I'd say Torm. He isn't chaotic or neutral good, but lorewise he is willing to bend even Ao's laws to do whats right. Though now that I think of it, Bahamut would also be a very good fit for Hawke, which would be ironic.
 
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"If you want to do this yourself, you can." I told her softly. "And if you're afraid to do this alone, you won't."
Hawke is the single most space-shattering, dimension-ripping, steps-with-thunder, panty-melting, almighty petachad to ever stride through fiction, and every man or male-identifying person, both real and not, in all the cosmos should live in shame for not meeting his standard.

Shadowheart is a lucky gal.
 
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Hawke is the single most space-shattering, dimension-ripping, steps-with-thunder, panty-melting, almighty petachad to ever stride through fiction, and every man or male-identifying person, both real and not, in all the cosmos should live in shame for not meeting his standard.
For the sake of accuracy I must demur that not only is my Hawke interpolating rather a bit from where DA canon didn't cover, but it's an actual plot point in this fic that a lot of why he's so mature about relationships now is that he really fucked up with Merrill and he had to learn from that failure.
 

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