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Video Games General

Playing as Ku'gath in Total Warhammer 3 is more fun than I expected. It's hard at the start because you have to avoid getting fucking Helman Ghorst's attention too soon or he'll come over and beat your ass. Once you've leveled up some by beating up ogres and have his AoE damage aura though, Ku'gath becomes a tanky as hell counter to most vampire units since they're all melee. I can't imagine fighting ranged factions like Tzeenchy boiz will be fun however.
 
Hey folks, I could use some help. I'm in a big RTS mood. Thing is I actually like good story campaigns with my strategy games.

So, I was hoping someone would have an idea besides Command and Conquer or Homeworld. Because I can't find anything and I'm hoping someone knows of a hidden gem.
 
Rivan9000 said:
Hey folks, I could use some help. I'm in a big RTS mood. Thing is I actually like good story campaigns with my strategy games.

So, I was hoping someone would have an idea besides Command and Conquer or Homeworld. Because I can't find anything and I'm hoping someone knows of a hidden gem.
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I remember enjoying a Dune RTS back in the day... but I can't remember the name of it. We're talking early 2000's I think, so pretty old at this point. Can't find it on Steam or GOG, so I'm not sure where to find it or if it was even preserved. I don't think I even still have the disc. I recall fucking myself over with the Atreidis sonic tanks because they damage all units they shoot past- including each-other.

Also enjoyed Age of Mythology- Age of Empires spinoff but with mythology stuff. That is on Steam for sure, though I do still have the disc for that. It had a story campaign involving various mythologies- I think the main character was Odysseus? Been a good long while. You get to build the Trojan Horse on one mission, which is neat.

I don't play much RTS and it shows.
 
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I remember enjoying a Dune RTS back in the day... but I can't remember the name of it. We're talking early 2000's I think, so pretty old at this point. Can't find it on Steam or GOG, so I'm not sure where to find it or if it was even preserved. I don't think I even still have the disc. I recall fucking myself over with the Atreidis sonic tanks because they damage all units they shoot past- including each-other.

Also enjoyed Age of Mythology- Age of Empires spinoff but with mythology stuff. That is on Steam for sure, though I do still have the disc for that. It had a story campaign involving various mythologies- I think the main character was Odysseus? Been a good long while. You get to build the Trojan Horse on one mission, which is neat.

I don't play much RTS and it shows.
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It's not a genre for everyone. I might check out mythology. This would be so much easier if they didn't tend to focus on the competitive scene so much.
 
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It's not a genre for everyone. I might check out mythology. This would be so much easier if they didn't tend to focus on the competitive scene so much.
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Competitive games are too frustrating for me, and when I play single either I'm not good enough to get far or I get to that one mission where they stick you with not a whole hell of a lot (usually destroying a pre-made base at the start) and give your enemy a hueg base and I can never puzzle out how to keep from being steamrolled by whatever they have set up.

Age of Mythology's story mode let me get pretty far though- I forget if I was actually overwhelmed or just lost progress when I swapped to a new computer or just didn't reinstall.
 
Rivan9000 said:
Hey folks, I could use some help. I'm in a big RTS mood. Thing is I actually like good story campaigns with my strategy games.

So, I was hoping someone would have an idea besides Command and Conquer or Homeworld. Because I can't find anything and I'm hoping someone knows of a hidden gem.
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Age of Mythology is getting a remake and has an ETA of sometime this year. Supposedly their rehauling a lot of the engine and upping the quality of the art for modern screen. Also updating the RTS to fix some long standing complaints

But the original games are still nice especially since you get a good campaign and good faction diversity.

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This guy summarizes the good and bad of the game.

Edit: Also we dont have a china faction. That was a lazy ass reskin of the other factions
 
Rivan9000 said:
This. It's why I mentioned C&C and Homeworld. Both of which are awesome...
For the most part.

I know it's a rarity in RTS games but that be what I crave.

As an aside, Tibirium Sun is hard. No wonder I never beat it as a kid.
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Ah. That might be an issue. It's one thing to get interesting scenarios, it's another to compete with the likes of Catecylsm.
Of the games that I know of with campaigns, the first dawn if war and it's expacs had pretty good work up till soulstorm.
Battlefleet gothic 1 and 2 have campaigns with missions and overarching plots but also a good amount of generic fights in them.
Universe at war earth assault might also be an option to check out.
You could take a look at Supreme Commander's missions to see if you'd like them. Not the most dialogue ever but there is a story to it.
 
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Supreme Commander
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Huh, it's been an age since I played those games. I remember the pathfinding being ass but I think I'll give it a swing. That and battlefleet gothic sounds fun.

I've played the first one and ever since I refuse to believe the war was anything other the Admiral Spire kicking Abadon's ass.

Well think I got me games. Thanks.
 
Scygnus said:
Also enjoyed Age of Mythology- Age of Empires spinoff but with mythology stuff. That is on Steam for sure, though I do still have the disc for that. It had a story campaign involving various mythologies- I think the main character was Odysseus? Been a good long while. You get to build the Trojan Horse on one mission, which is neat.
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Odysseus was in the game, but the MC was actually an OC named Arkantos.
 
Scygnus said:
I remember enjoying a Dune RTS back in the day... but I can't remember the name of it. We're talking early 2000's I think, so pretty old at this point. Can't find it on Steam or GOG, so I'm not sure where to find it or if it was even preserved. I don't think I even still have the disc. I recall fucking myself over with the Atreidis sonic tanks because they damage all units they shoot past- including each-other.
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Emperor: Battle for Dune

Best Dune piece of media since the book, fight me.

Great classic Westwood RTS before EA could rape the company into the dirt.

Yep, Atreides faction had plenty of issues with Sonic Tank friendly fire, making their ultimate unit kinda unusable, but they also had the Minotaur, which is I swear to God the best unit in any RTS game by the sheer cool factor if nothing else.

Amazing soundtrack as well, each faction got a separate composer to do their soundtrack for them. David Arkenstone for Harkonnen, Jarrid Mendelson for House Ordos, and Frank Klepacki of the Red Alert Fame for Atreides. It gave each of the factions a very unique feel for each mission, and I still listen to the tracks from that game to this day.

It's quite telling when Frank Klepacki, the absolute legend who worked on the Red Alert series, is actually the weakest of all the three composers for this game. Don't get me wrong, he has an absolute banger in Ride The Worm, but overall I think House Harkonnen is the ultimate victor of this music battle, with Victory is Inevitable being their ultimate track. House Ordos did put up a strong fight with Not An Option though.

Great game overall, a certified underappreciated gem in my books. Actually tried to play it again recently, but it wasn't working on my system, so that's a bit of a bummer.

HAWK STRIKE READY TO FIRE STANDING BY
 
Scygnus said:
*snaps fingers*

It wasn't Dune 2 or this game I played, it was the one in between, Dune 2000. Glad I figured that out finally.
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Another great find. I remembered playing it back in the day, don't think it holds up to modern standards as well as E:BfD does, but it's a fine enough gem to check out if one's a fan of the Dune franchise.
 
Anyone know if AFK Journey is decent? Cause I keep getting the trailer showing up as youtube ads and the music is at least somewhat decent.
 
Beat A-Tech Cybernetic. Pretty fun romp. Last level is eugh. Pick-A-Portal, and it took me a few rounds to figure out which one doesn't send you back to the start- hint, you can see the original portal from most of the locations, and the last portal from the final one, don't go through the portal that's the same color as the original (it does change) and do go through the portal that matches the final destination.

SMGs are OP, wish the game had given them earlier than the last level. Dark Shotgun is the GOAT for most of the game though.
 
I quite enjoy those mobile city building games, but unfortunately most of them have a shitty competitive MP mode that forces you to play constantly to watch out for other players raiding you. Anybody know of any good ones without it?
 
Scygnus said:
I remember enjoying a Dune RTS back in the day... but I can't remember the name of it. We're talking early 2000's I think, so pretty old at this point. Can't find it on Steam or GOG, so I'm not sure where to find it or if it was even preserved. I don't think I even still have the disc. I recall fucking myself over with the Atreidis sonic tanks because they damage all units they shoot past- including each-other.

Also enjoyed Age of Mythology- Age of Empires spinoff but with mythology stuff. That is on Steam for sure, though I do still have the disc for that. It had a story campaign involving various mythologies- I think the main character was Odysseus? Been a good long while. You get to build the Trojan Horse on one mission, which is neat.

I don't play much RTS and it shows.
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I remember it's called emperor battle for dune. I think it's abandon ware now as I saw it there.
 
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I remember it's called emperor battle for dune. I think it's abandon ware now as I saw it there.
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*snaps fingers*

It wasn't Dune 2 or this game I played, it was the one in between, Dune 2000. Glad I figured that out finally.
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Three posts up dude.

Aside: Playing Persona 5 Strikers now.

One thing they really should have added/done is just let the Checkpoints heal you. Enemy respawn by healing is fine, but having to go all the way out and all the way back in to heal is really annoying.
 
Scygnus said:
Three posts up dude.

Aside: Playing Persona 5 Strikers now.

One thing they really should have added/done is just let the Checkpoints heal you. Enemy respawn by healing is fine, but having to go all the way out and all the way back in to heal is really annoying.
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Whoops I didn't read the reply as I was following the posts.
 
Zenkichi's reaction to Haru saying negative/insulting things with an innocent smile on her face will likely never stop being funny.
 
Rivan9000 said:
Hey folks, I could use some help. I'm in a big RTS mood. Thing is I actually like good story campaigns with my strategy games.

So, I was hoping someone would have an idea besides Command and Conquer or Homeworld. Because I can't find anything and I'm hoping someone knows of a hidden gem.
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There is the game Beyond All Reason, an RTS in the vein of Total Annihilation, with its main quirk being that it simulates projectiles and explosions individually. Its Open Alpha is also free to download on their site, so giving it a try won't cost you anything.

If anything, its Skirmish mode and scenarios are worth a couple hours, if you got time to kill.
 
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There is the game Beyond All Reason, an RTS in the vein of Total Annihilation, with its main quirk being that it simulates projectiles and explosions individually. Its Open Alpha is also free to download on their site, so giving it a try won't cost you anything.

If anything, its Skirmish mode and scenarios are worth a couple hours, if you got time to kill.
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I'll take a look. I really like Supreme Commander so that might be my cup of tea.

It's hard in that I'm an oddball who doesn't like to play multiplayer. I much prefer single player story campaigns. So, yeah I'm weird.
 
Rivan9000 said:
I'll take a look. I really like Supreme Commander so that might be my cup of tea.

It's hard in that I'm an oddball who doesn't like to play multiplayer. I much prefer single player story campaigns. So, yeah I'm weird.
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BAR doesn't have a campaign, much less a story focused one, so I'm really not sure why it was recommended to you. I swear you could ask for a tactical fantasy mirco intensive RTS and someone would still recommend BAR, when it is basically the opposite of all those things (except for being an RTS)
 
I recently played TEVI. It's a pretty good Metroidvania with Bullet Hell aspects. The combat and movement are really fluid and I like the Sigil system that let's you customize how you play by augmenting your attacks. Some of them give attacks new properties, some of them make attacks stronger at the cost of one less use during a combo, and some of them let you get HP or MP back on moves you use a lot. I liked exploring and finding all the pickups but the fact you can't drop through platforms takes some getting used to. A lot of the level design is built around the fact you can't do that and need to find other ways around. Some of the puzzles involving that are a pain in the ass to solve or have obtuse answers but otherwise only mildly frustrating. I had a harder time with platforming to some of the hidden sigils than figuring out how to get around (except Misty Maze, fuck Misty Maze). The world of Az is fun to explore, even when it gets annoying.

On the story front, I liked it for the most part. The game starts getting dark pretty quickly and only tends to get darker, though it never wallows in it and overall has pretty uplifting themes. Basically "bad things happen, but that doesn't mean you give up" is the simplest way I'd describe it. I really enjoyed the main characters and most of the side characters. Very few of the characters actually annoyed me (the one that really did is specifically designed to be and is so to the characters themselves), though there's a point where Tevi starts feeling frustrated by the people in charge seeming to just not care about what's going on and I was right along with her. The story itself is kind of meandering and feels like it's not following any coherent path until towards the end where things start to piece together a bit more. I can't say I'm particularly fond of how things tied up though.

Overall, I really enjoyed the game. I have 33 hours played and the story, by itself, probably makes up about 20 hours if I cut out side quests and general exploration. It's a $30 game, and while I greatly enjoyed it, I'd recommend waiting for a sale before picking it up.
 
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