WHF or WH40K?

[Alexander]

After so long I have started considering playing the real Warhammer: painting miniatures, playing games with them and so on. It also helps that one of the official GW shops is close to my home.

So I ask all fellow enthusiasts: should I start with Age of Sigmar, successor of Warhammer Fantasy, or the 8th Edition of Warhammer 40.000?

 

[AcridComet]

After so long I have started considering playing the real Warhammer: painting miniatures, playing games with them and so on. It also helps that one of the official GW shops is close to my home.

So I ask all fellow enthusiasts: should I start with Age of Sigmar, successor of Warhammer Fantasy, or the 8th Edition of Warhammer 40.000?

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That's a complex question, to which I say; which army do you like more? I am a 40k guy cause I nerded out over tyranids. And fantasy really didn't have something similar. So I went by looks. Yeah, that seems boring, but I've read all the books out, and they're really all unique and different, and they're all designed to be "equal". So my suggestion is what you want to paint, and what seems like "you"

 

[Alexander]

That's a complex question, to which I say; which army do you like more? I am a 40k guy cause I nerded out over tyranids. And fantasy really didn't have something similar. So I went by looks. Yeah, that seems boring, but I've read all the books out, and they're really all unique and different, and they're all designed to be "equal". So my suggestion is what you want to paint, and what seems like "you"

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To tell you the truth, I always have been a fan of the Necrons. I also like fantasy, but what I learned about WHF is not very useful for AoS.

The shop sells for beginners the Dark Imperium set, which has for starting armies the Ultramarines and the Plague Marines.

 

[AcridComet]

To tell you the truth, I always have been a fan of the Necrons. I also like fantasy, but what I learned about WHF is not very useful for AoS.

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I can understand that. They change alot of stuff, and I hear people complain about AoS more than 40k. Still hear them complain about it, mind, but not as much.

The shop sells for beginners the Dark Imperium set, which has for starting armies the Ultramarines and the Plague Marines.

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Depending on if you like them, they are fun, if not exactly balanced. The biggest one has commanders for both, with insanely good powers, but the plague marines are the only ones with a psyker, and are technically the cheaper army because they fill it out with zombies instead of marines. The Ultramarines meanwhile, get better weapons, more health per unit, and good synchronized perks. Fair warning, nurgle stuff is really, really disturbing if you look at the professional paint jobs, and isn't for the weak stomached.

Also doesn't come with clippers, or glue. Or paint. Is kinda why it's a money sinkhole.

 

[Alexander]

I can understand that. They change alot of stuff, and I hear people complain about AoS more than 40k. Still hear them complain about it, mind, but not as much.


Depending on if you like them, they are fun, if not exactly balanced. The biggest one has commanders for both, with insanely good powers, but the plague marines are the only ones with a psyker, and are technically the cheaper army because they fill it out with zombies instead of marines. The Ultramarines meanwhile, get better weapons, more health per unit, and good synchronized perks. Fair warning, nurgle stuff is really, really disturbing if you look at the professional paint jobs, and isn't for the weak stomached.

Also doesn't come with clippers, or glue. Or paint. Is kinda why it's a money sinkhole.

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I know about Nurgle, never disturbed me much. If it was a special effect in a video, maybe, but on a miniature it's clearly fake.

I also like Space Marines and have no bias against the Ultramarines (never had to deal with Matt Ward, so for me that whole "spiritual liege" thing is just a funny anecdote). I don't mind getting the bigger set and train my skills before starting to build my Necron army, though of course I need to plan how to best spend money...

 

[Dakkaface]

As someone who played 40k and Fantasy for years before getting out, my first reaction would be: Please don't. There are better games out there that won't cost you an arm and a leg. It's not a cheap hobby in the least, and GW have historically failed to playtest or do any rigorous reading of their own rules.

I can't directly criticize Age of Sigmar or 40k 8e, having exited the GW hobby space years ago, but the cost of armies within GW rulesets tend towards 'high' and the rules quality tends toward 'playable, but with gaping rules holes that are never patched.' I understand that part of your decision is that the GW near where you live gives you a playspace, but please look into any of the alternatives before throwing yourself at the money sink that is GW gaming.

 

[Uxion]

I do not recommend getting into the hobby unless you have a lot of time and money to invest in them.

 

[molemole]

As far as the hobby goes? Neither, I'm from India and the prices are such that I can buy a decent phone for the amount that an army takes. A decent imported phone.
As far as the RPG goes? I'd like to play or run a Dark Heresy game, and I'm thinking of getting some of the core rulebooks.

As far as the setting? It's incredibly fun to write in. I definitely prefer 40k to WHF. I grew up on my dad's collection of old SF, from Pournelle and Niven to PK Dick and a hell of a lot more. Every piece of what I read in my childhood can comfortably fit into that massive setting of 40k, and do so reasonably coherently. It's a joy to write that, and makes reading and brainstorming in the 40k setting far more interesting than WHF for me.
But my factors are purely personal preferences, and should not be taken as general