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5500 members? Do like 90% have like 1 or no posts? Cause QQ feels too small for that many people to be added without a noticeable change.The xf2 upgrade progress is much like Schrodinger's cat. Until it is observed no one knows, and if you know you know.
Last thing staff heard was back in November when we got to play in the testbed, which was/is still on the Oct 26th 2023 snapshot of the forum.
(on a unrelated note we have had 5.5k members join, 430k posts and 1300 topics/discussions opened in that time)
Given you need an account to read the NSFW forums, we probably have a higher percentage of account-having-but-non-posting lurkers than normal.5500 members? Do like 90% have like 1 or no posts? Cause QQ feels too small for that many people to be added without a noticeable change.
The xf2 upgrade progress is much like Schrodinger's cat. Until it is observed no one knows, and if you know you know.
Last thing staff heard was back in November when we got to play in the testbed, which was/is still on the Oct 26th 2023 snapshot of the forum.
(on a unrelated note we have had 5.5k members join, 430k posts and 1300 topics/discussions opened in that time)
Given you need an account to read the NSFW forums, we probably have a higher percentage of account-having-but-non-posting lurkers than normal.
Seriously, can somebody explain to me why the fuck so many users have such a hate-on for XF2? I'll admit I like the XF1 UI better overall, but that doesn't explain the people going 'if the site ever upgrades I am leaving forever!!11!1!', let alone that one forum where even mentioning XF2 is grounds for a ban.
let alone that one forum where even mentioning XF2 is grounds for a ban.
Apparently. I recall someone sharing a screenshot of the relevant rules post during one of the XF2 upgrade discussions. No recollection what the forum itself was called or about.
XF2 does have a problem with a lot of things silently breaking upon a lack of JavaScript and/or cookies. Less of an issue for a regular user who enables them for that site, but for a security-conscious dabbler it can be a PITA. XF1 breaks some things (obviously, login, but notoriously also search functionality) without cookies, but it mostly works without JavaScript and usually you get a "hey, enable cookies".Seriously, can somebody explain to me why the fuck so many users have such a hate-on for XF2? I'll admit I like the XF1 UI better overall, but that doesn't explain the people going 'if the site ever upgrades I am leaving forever!!11!1!', let alone that one forum where even mentioning XF2 is grounds for a ban.
Also the clusterfuck of horribleness that SV and SB were immediately after the upgrades left a rather poor impression of XF2 overall. Remember, the launch version of XF2 was outright missing some features from XF1 and also ugly as shit.XF2 does have a problem with a lot of things silently breaking upon a lack of JavaScript and/or cookies. Less of an issue for a regular user who enables them for that site, but for a security-conscious dabbler it can be a PITA. XF1 breaks some things (obviously, login, but notoriously also search functionality) without cookies, but it mostly works without JavaScript and usually you get a "hey, enable cookies".
To give the example I remember off the top of my head - SV has/had a thing where upon being given a warning you need to acknowledge the warning before you can do anything. Except the warning popup needs JavaScript to display, and if JavaScript is turned off you're just locked out of the entire site until you turn it back on, with no indication as to the source of the problem.
As for why some people go nuts about this - some people have no sense of proportion, and these people are loud so they're salient well beyond their fraction of the population.
I got curious about Upgrading XenForo, so I've read the manual page about it and wondered if QQ is using add-ons incompatible with XenForo 2?The xf2 upgrade progress is much like Schrodinger's cat. Until it is observed no one knows, and if you know you know.
Last thing staff heard was back in November when we got to play in the testbed, which was/is still on the Oct 26th 2023 snapshot of the forum.
(on a unrelated note we have had 5.5k members join, 430k posts and 1300 topics/discussions opened in that time)
Yes, but it less ugly than launch XF2.
Dude, over 10% of your total posts are complaints about XenForo 2.
Yes. Technically it's a difference in the XF2 version of the ignore thread add-on, but functionally it's just an XF2 thing.So I noticed that on SB it seems that if you ignore a thread it disappears and other threads move up in the list so you still have 30 threads on a page while here on QQ it just hides the thread on the page so you just end up having less than 20 showing which is kind of annoying when you only have like eight threads showing on a page. Is that difference a feature of XF2?
Dude, over 10% of your total posts are complaints about XenForo 2.
We get it already: you don't like XF2. Repeating this over and over again like a broken record isn't going to accomplish anything.
Is anyone else suspicious of the fact that this guy's first and only post on this website was specifically to bitch about Xenforo 2? Because I sure as hell am.It's worth complaining about. Xenforo 2 is built from the ground up to be a time-wasting advertising delivery platform in a way XF1 isn't. It's designed to clutter up your screen with unnecessary information, grab your attention and make it harder to find what you're looking for.
To give you an example, XF1 respects search operators, showing posts with both quoted words, a total of 3 pages:
https://i.imgur.com/6ScszvX.png
In contrast, XF2 shows posts with either word, increasing the number of results to a whopping 21 pages:
https://i.imgur.com/KyJeAkg.png
So called "similar threads":
https://i.imgur.com/QTQukEX.png
To top it off, we have the aforementioned issue of threadmarks not showing and the website being unfriendly to non-javascript users. It's also expensive:https://i.imgur.com/3Hqa2wJ.png
XF2 is —à la many websites in the past decade—built to exploit the attention economy. Aren't we all sick of websites becoming worse like this yet?
Wait what?Is anyone else suspicious of the fact that this guy's first and only post on this website was specifically to bitch about Xenforo 2? Because I sure as hell am.
Is anyone else suspicious of the fact that this guy's first and only post on this website was specifically to bitch about Xenforo 2? Because I sure as hell am.
It's worth complaining about. Xenforo 2 is built from the ground up to be a time-wasting advertising delivery platform in a way XF1 isn't. It's designed to clutter up your screen with unnecessary information, grab your attention and make it harder to find what you're looking for.
To give you an example, XF1 respects search operators, showing posts with both quoted words, a total of 3 pages:
https://i.imgur.com/6ScszvX.png
In contrast, XF2 shows posts with either word, increasing the number of results to a whopping 21 pages:
https://i.imgur.com/KyJeAkg.png
So called "similar threads":
https://i.imgur.com/QTQukEX.png
To top it off, we have the aforementioned issue of threadmarks not showing and the website being unfriendly to non-javascript users. It's also expensive:https://i.imgur.com/3Hqa2wJ.png
XF2 is —à la many websites in the past decade—built to exploit the attention economy. Aren't we all sick of websites becoming worse like this yet?
You were literally just complaining about threadmarks not working right on XF2, and now you want to switch to one that just straight up doesn't have them at all?I'm not sure what you're implying, but I'm mainly a lurker *shrugs*. We all have to make our first post somewhere. There was nothing I felt was worth replying to before
Anyway, regarding the XF2 issue I'd recommend the mods of this site convert this forum to a free and open source one like some of the ones listed here, which are still being updated: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Internet_forum_software