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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

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deccan2008 said:
Aren't they at all curious why Paul keeps ending up in fictional universes? Isn't there some higher in-universe power they could consult over this?
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Technically Yes, but as we saw in the last Arc, he's currently imprisoned on a planet near the Scource Wall. I'm not sure who else to ask.
 
Can New Gods reach enlightenment? Or do you need to be enlightened before you become a new god to reach enlightenment? I think I remember reading that someone who is enlightened can learn to wield their light without a power ring. Lantern Stewart from I think Earth-10 was awakened by Grayven and he can use the green light without a ring. Is that because he spent time in the Central Power battery or is that a feature of being an enlightened new god? Do you need a power ring to do things like assimilate people with the orange light or create portals with the Indigo light or ressurect people with the white light or are those abilities tied to the rings?
 
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Jankl said:
Can New Gods reach enlightenment
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Probably.

Darkseid has black quote marks, so jthers may be able to do something like that.

Jankl said:
Or do you need to be enlightened before you become a new god
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No.

Several people that have become New Gods were not enlightened.

Jankl said:
Lantern Stewart from I think Earth-10 was awakened by Grayven and he can use the green light without a ring. Is that because he spent time in the Central Power battery or is that a feature of being an enlightened new god? Do
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It was the time spent in the battery.

Renegade just manipulated the energy inside him to let him use it without a ring.
 
deccan2008 said:
Aren't they at all curious why Paul keeps ending up in fictional universes? Isn't there some higher in-universe power they could consult over this?
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The Chosen One said:
I assume Paul himself deflects if they ask, since he's still managed to avoid telling the Team that, at the very least, their universe isn't any more real than those ones
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Maybe he gives them speech Earth 12!J'onn gave during the Justice Guild incident: "Perhaps.. the creators of [insert media] had a subconscious link to [insert parallel]. What they thought was merely imagination was a physic memory of their real exploits."

Nondescript Character: "But, wait, how come you can arrive during the series without that affect-"

Paul: "Oh, look at that! Klarion's returned and got a new Teekl! Time to get a new construct cat bye!"

BR549 said:
(As for the 'higher in-universe power they could consult', that would be Ambush Bug, last seen being tricked by Orange Lantern into having to go through every panel of every issue of every DC comic ever published to establish that Paul wasn't actually a canonical background character from somewhere.)
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Even then, I don't think they have any proper way to get in contact with Ambush Bug. Or the imps like Bat-Mite or Mxy (at the very least I recall Superman having encountered him before), but intentionally bringing them to Earth 16 is more trouble than its worth.

Not just the comics, every piece of DC media that has and hasn't been published.

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It's not the kitchen. Videos, DVDs, film reels and out of date radios litter the various available surfaces. But more than anything else, there are comics. Stacks, piles, drifts of them, reaching up to the heavens and off into infinity. Everything DC ever produced, every published work and unpublished author's note.
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I'm surprised that there's already a drug distribution center back up and running in this broken state of the world.
 
Mr Zoat said:
He shakes my hand very quickly, like he thinks I'll want to keep it or something. Then he just sort of stands there. What happened to American tradition of good customer service?
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'to the'?

So I'm guessing we'll be seeing some sort of drug that directly stimulates the pleasure centre via magic or technology. Probably super addictive like the tasp and droud from Ringworld. Obvious association with happiness is Boss Smiley, but we've been told he isn't doing much at the moment because he wants humanity to be able to protect itself from existential threats.
 
Coltsguy said:
For the love of god, please do follow ups for those two universes.
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Honestly? That would probably be a bad idea.

Best case scenario the check up happens before everything in Sailor Moon dies, in which case the Sailor Scouts should have found out about the Sailor Crystal he stole and handed to his counterpart.

Worst case scenario, it's after either Galaxia has destroyed the planet or one of the big bads has jacked the Silver Crystal.
 
Vaermina said:
Honestly? That would probably be a bad idea.

Best case scenario the check up happens before everything in Sailor Moon dies, in which case the Sailor Scouts should have found out about the Sailor Crystal he stole and handed to his counterpart.

Worst case scenario, it's after either Galaxia has destroyed the planet or one of the big bads has jacked the Silver Crystal.
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The Metallia fight was the one where everyone dies and the Silver Crystal revived them as a deus ex machina, so we're past that point already. Anything afterwards is manageable. By now, the Silver Crystal will be back with Moon. Venus had it last and wouldn't keep it. At least I think she had it last. I suppose with the bloodline spell off it might not matter, but it's still part of her soul, if I'm remembering my lore properly. There're ways to get that back up.
 
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The Metallia fight was the one where everyone dies and the Silver Crystal revived them as a deus ex machina, so we're past that point already. Anything afterwards is manageable. By now, the Silver Crystal will be back with Moon. Venus had it last and wouldn't keep it. At least I think she had it last. I suppose with the bloodline spell off it might not matter, but it's still part of her soul, if I'm remembering my lore properly. There're ways to get that back up.
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Over the course of the series several different big bads get their hands on the Silver Crystal.

The only thing protecting the world when that happens is the bloodline protection that was removed.

Also, Orange Lantern mooned Galaxia and stole a star seed from her to give to his counterpart. So, yeah, the world is doomed.
 
HappyHappy (part 2) New
29th August 2013
22:29 GMT -5

I jerk back in the air to avoid a thrown… Tire iron? And get back to trying to purge whatever exotic narcotic this is from… Timothy Symons. I don't know if he overdosed or it's just this deadly, but it's trying to do nasty things to his central nervous system.

"So how's college..? Stuff going?"

A henchman tried bringing an automatic rifle to bear on Artemis, only for Wallace to speed across the… Building site, and send him flying with a narrowly subsonic right hook.

"Ah, it's not. We only had-"

He flickers to the side as the drugged-up OMAC serving as the gang's muscle calls in a shot from orbit, narrowly missing him.

"-four months before-"

Artemis finally stuns the last of the drug-maddened unfortunates who tried to dogpile her without realising that she was super tough, and recovers her bow.

"-the Anti-Life happened."

It's fascinating; I think I've got the last of it out of his body and it just… Reappears. Which suggests… Either that it's dimensionally exotic, or it's magically forming a conceptual link-. Which I wouldn't be able to detect, because power rings struggle directly detecting magic and the spell wouldn't have to be on the subject…

"How are they handling-"

Wallace dashes past the OMAC, who swings at him and misses. Wallace doesn't try to hit him, but instead tosses something at his face.

"-that?"

Artemis sights, notches, draws and looses, and the chap who are trying to do something on the computer finds an arrow sticking in the screen right in front of his face.

"Ah, it varies. The younger kids are just going back to class. For everyone else, it kinda depends on how badly the local infrastructure got messed up."

There should be something… Ah, yes! A little twinkle we can feed on. And just like that, he doesn't get dosed again. Give it a moment just in case…

"I meant, for you."

"I just got a couple of extra essays and I can just carry on like it never happened. Kid's gotta redo the year."

"Really? Oh, and I fixed this guy."

The OMAC is down on one knee, but clearly trying to get back up. Wallace looks at him in concern. "Huh. That was a big dose of tranquiliser."

"Aren't OMACs immune to mind-altering chemicals?"

"Yeah, but not magic. Turns out that sending people to sleep with alchemy is pretty easy." The OMAC swipes at him, and he sidesteps. "Unless they're OMACs, I guess."

I gently put my test subject Mr. Symons down and close in on the OMAC. Reach out… Got it.

The OMAC's eyes widen slightly, his face relaxing. And then he lets Wallace's tranquiliser have its intended effect, and collapses to the ground.

Wallace smiles. "Alright. Let me just-" He blurs away and then reappears, I.T. technician dragged back with one hand and the computer hard disk in the other. "-grab some stuff."

The technician stares around in surprise, then does the hot-foot dance as he realises that the friction set his shoes are on fire.

"You really have to repeat the whole year?"

"Yeah, our professor didn't make it, and most of the class didn't come back after…"

"Did they die?"

"No-. I mean, not.. all of them. But it's like… With how the economy's going, it's not all that obvious how a Chemistry degree's gunna turn into a job."

Which is… Fair enough, I suppose. I nod sympathetically as I recover and zip tie the fallen before ensuring that I've purged their systems.

"Plus, a lot of families can't afford to pay tuition any more…" He shrugs. "Courses are getting cut. Mine's still gunna run, but with all of…" He nods at me and Artemis. "This, I couldn't fit the first year in the first year. And…"

Artemis raises an eyebrow as she calls the local police. "And?"

"A-hhhhh…" Wallace sighs. "I don't know if it's worth it."

She frowns. "Huh?"

Ah…

"They're not wrong about the job market. And I was.. kinda thinking about making alchemy a full time thing, and the F.D.A.'s basically shut down at the moment…"

"They're not gunna be shut down forever, Kid."

"I… Figure if I can get Doctor Mist to sign off on something being useful and effective, I can go over their heads."

Artemis hesitates for a moment, before turning to me. "Is..? That how it works right now?"

"Effectively, yes. The Justice League has a lot of leeway in handling the current crisis. If Kid Flash can create a potion that -for example- rapidly regenerates wounds and can't easily be weaponised, it's perfectly possible to bypass the normal regulatory steps."

"Actually, I've been working on a bio-regulator potion. A couple of the guys in my class have diabetes. Insulin prices in the U.S. have been kinda crazy for a while, so I figured it would be a good place to start, then..."

I nod, painfully aware of how many people with chronic conditions died even after we purged the Earth of Anti-Life. My sister used to work for… And maybe still does work for, an international pharmaceuticals company, so I had some idea of how many countries medicines get shipped around between before being sold to the end used even before coming here. And that could be a problem in war zones, but… This whole planet has become a war zone several times. We're making an effort to rebuild in such a way that essentials don't need to get shipped further than they absolutely have to -and to be fair that's something that most governments were working on before the Anti-Life happened- but it's… Not easy, rearranging things like that.

"If Doctor Mist signs off on the efficaciousness, I can ship it. I can probably arrange for shipping reagents in bulk, too."

"Thanks, but what about when you're not on Earth?"

"No, I meant that Cadbury Shipping can handle it. We're basically magical Amazon these days."

"Okay, ah… Can we talk about this after we hand these guys over?"

"Sure." I nod. "Though a man you've probably never met called Oliver Queen is my proxy, and he knows more about the company than I do."

"I… May have heard of him." He looks away at the sound of police sirens. "Meet up and talk about it later?"

"Yes. Ah. And in relation to this case, I'll put it my report, but I think the drugs were using some sort of conceptual link. I'm not sure why or how or whether it needed someone to deliberately activate it, but there was definitely an ongoing magic effect even after I removed the drug."

Artemis nod. "Do you think Batman will let us interrogate the OMAC, or-"

The air around the OMAC glows, and two more OMACs appear. We get a polite nod, and then they bind their compatriot before teleporting away again.

"-will that happen?"
 
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He flickers to the side as the drugged-up OMAC serving as the gang's muscle calls in a shot from orbit, narrowly missing him.
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I'm a little surprised to see an OMAC being used by evil again so soon.

Artemis nod. "Do you think Batman will let us interrogate the OMAC, or-"

The air around the OMAC glows, and two more OMACs appear. We get a polite nod, and then they bind their compatriot before teleporting away again.

"-will that happen?"
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I'm waiting for Batman to experience the downfall of hubris.
 
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