On a Pale Horse (Umamusume/Youjo Senki)

[Vanta Mk.XII]

adding this edit: As the profile was made by others based on Shiros answers, I would think they would have listed "Wants to be a Pilot" as opposed to 'wants to fly'.

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Nah. Shirogane would probably say it clear that she herself wants to fly. Not ride an aerial vehicle.

 

[Lyrista]

To be fair, Shirogane saying she herself wants to fly isn't the strangest thing an Umamusume has said. It probably isn't even in the top 10.

Case in point, Goldshi.

 

[MaHaL]

So to summarise...

She is smol.

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Still bigger than our favourite divorced dad tho.

 

[TheSmallSauce]

Still bigger than our favourite divorced dad tho.

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It's hard to beat 142cm after all... And now since we have confirmation of Shirogane's height, drawing a height chart shouldn't be difficult at all. She can slot in nicely next to Dream Journey. How fitting that the two murder ponies are next to each other, after all great violence does come in little packages.

 

[Jadalier Rune]

Man, who would have thought that someone like Tanya would ever be sensitive about her weight?

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That's the thing she didn't write this profile…

 

[TheSmallSauce]

I wonder how people found that out. Did Spica's trainer commit bad touch again.

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No, no, it definitely happened like this:

Spoiler: Art by Dasukasuki_3G

Somebody post that GIF of Haru Urara doing consecutive punches.

 

[TNTVGC]

She has a devastating right hook

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Oh how I would love to see who found that out

 

[Melmar]

Taiki Shuttle's also one of Hana's trainees and probably heard about the speaker punching incident from the others so that's why she knew about it to put it on there.

 

[Eurocorp]

Taiki Shuttle in real life was also a bit of a challenger at times when on a form. Rather infamously went up against Tamamo Cross and lost.

 

[ndh]

So how do you think Shiro is going to react to Bright's freak out next year at the Takarazuka Kinen?

 

[PinkShadowReader]

Shiro's secret pride is very Shiro. Its both cute and in character.

 

[D'znn-Xy'lll MetaChthonia]

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Height

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4"7
That's average Japanese and even more average Uma height given Japanese Umas are a bit short. It's one of those "you don't notice till a grown adult is standing next to them" type things like with Magical Girls in MahoAko.

Image Colors

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...what does that even mean? Color of what Image?

Ears
Tail

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I'm confused, why would these be listed? Are these usually for decoration listings but her notable feature about them is how they seemingly are ornamental in themselves?

She has a devastating right hook

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Pretty sure that applies to all Umas. Vastly stronger then humans after all.

 

[Chronometry]

I'm confused, why would these be listed? Are these usually for decoration listings but her notable feature about them is how they seemingly are ornamental in themselves?

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It's been done in the same vein as the character profiles from the game; they typically list character traits related to the ears and tail, rather than describing them directly. For example, Haru Urara, bless her, has her ear trait listed as "Big words go in one ear and out the other".

 

[Random Reader Guy]

Wonder if Shiro still likes chocolates and coffee while hating (cigarette) smoke

 

[Eurocorp]

4"7
That's average Japanese and even more average Uma height given Japanese Umas are a bit short.

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She's on the short end height wise absolutely, 145cm means she's in the height department of Narita Taishin who routinely gets it brought up about how it makes her feel. Compounded by the fact her roommate is Super Creek.

She also would probably have a very mixed opinion on goo goo babies now that I think about it.

 

[Kloudianorici]

Birthdate being 4/4 is perfect. For those unaware, which is probably a small amount at this point, 4 in Japan is unlucky because it sounds like their word for death. So her being the pale horse is even more on brand for her.

 

[Mentos]

...what does that even mean? Color of what Image?

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In Idolm@ster, and thus I assume the wider idol industry or at least idol games, each idol has a color associated with them. These will show up everywhere, from UI elements to effects to individual accents on otherwise uniform costumes. This color is referred to as their 'image color'.

Hololive seems to do something similar, though I'm not sure how strictly they keep to it, if it's as codified and official as im@s.

 

[2hupedia]

So to summarise...

She is smol.

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Shiro.mp4

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGjxZY5Ka0g

 

[Gremlin Jack]

"With how strong your year is, whether anyone can achieve the Classic Triple Crown is very much up in the air." That essentially told her that no, Toujou-san was not expecting her to win.

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All right, can someone please help me out here with the lore. Why does it sound a lot like all uma races are restricted to high school students? Symboli Rudolf is in her last year at high school (I'm assuming, since she's on the student council) and is already being talked of like her racing career is mostly over. Are all these races, with fortunes on offer in the prize pool, still just training races for young horses? Is there something above G1 that are there for true career racing uma? Or do uma musume peak as racers in their late teens, and older uma simply can't keep up?

 

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All right, can someone please help me out here with the lore. Why does it sound a lot like all uma races are restricted to high school students? Symboli Rudolf is in her last year at high school (I'm assuming, since she's on the student council) and is already being talked of like her racing career is mostly over. Are all these races, with fortunes on offer in the prize pool, still just training races for young horses? Is there something above G1 that are there for true career racing uma? Or do uma musume peak as racers in their late teens, and older uma simply can't keep up?

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Can't say about the 'Fic Lore but Canon Lore? NONE! Even the Ages is up in the air, supposedly Tracen is an academy for all Ages assuming you qualify though according to the Mangas. Some are most definitely children like Mayano and Teio but others are most definitely adults like Super Creek and Maruzensky (although Maru is trying so hard to convince people she's a teenager). Others are dubious where they fall like Rudolf herself. Then there's ones whose Design changes between Medium like GolShi where she looks like she's in her late teens in the Anime but early-to-mid teens in the Game. I think Rice Shower actually has a license? But you can't convince me someone as adorable as her didn't make the thing in Photoshop.

There's really no Reason for them to be teenagers other then because they are. It can be assumed that the official racing circuit requires specific credentials from a racing school with Tracen being the elite old one for Japan, possibly something after the academies.

Ultimately the Plots for the Canon Characters is literally them just reliving their Real World counterparts careers but some modifications for certain things (it's even Canon to the Setting that's exactly what's happening with all Umas being reincarnations Destined to repeat their previous lives, some make it a goal to try and escape that (only Marvelous Sunday actually has that Ability though. She's just MARVELOUS that way). Which leads to a funny thought of some Umas reverse Isekai'ing into the Real World with ones like Happy Meek who are horses Named for their UmaMusume counterparts). Like Suzuka got sent to the US instead of taking out behind a shed because humanoids are far more better at recovering from leg injuries then any horse is. But because of this their entire careers could fit into a High School or College tenure, especially considering a proper human career path would outlive a horse's entire life multiple times over. Not really enough for that to work for proper lifetime so it simply doesn't acknowledge anything outside Tracen excluding shoppes and terrain.

Ultimately the general Society and even the Timeline is a sandbox. Certain things are established, like how roads have dedicated paths for Umas from it being common enough form of travel for it to be necessary. Umas are expected to eat a lot (having a horse's dietary requirements) but even then ones like Oguri Cap and Special Week having Saiyan appetites is considered weird by their standards. Belno Light, Oguri's bestie and minder, is heiress to a UmaMusume clothing and apparel chain but that's expected to have something like that Exist.

Uh, I think for the Biology question it's established that Umas pretty much maintain their youth till they're quite old once they reach adulthood? So if anything they would have longer careers then humans if anything post-Tracen was established. Of course they're superhumanly fast, strong, and probably smart as well. Spe's childhood shows her being able to easily pull her adoptive mother in a tire across a field at full speed without trouble at 3~5, it makes the Idea of her being leashed to a post laughable to the point that she only didn't escape from either snapping the leash or the post to be because she didn't want to. The Game also has its training Cutscenes showing them pulling tires the size of houses and the like or Gentildonna and her Idle Animation of crushing a solid steel ball as big as herself into one the size of her fist (although 'donna is notable for her special ability being sheer strength).

They also end up with powers and Personalities relevant to their Real World counterparts. Manhattan Café is in a King Crimson situation from the real one being a near exact duplicate of his father and Cygames not being able to get the Rights to Sunday Silence which is also why GolShi acts the way she does with McQueen (the real SS was obsessed with McQueen). Real Marvelous Sunday was a bad tempered horse till an illness nearly killed him, after that he was described as "weird" and "creepy" doing things like staring down cameras while perfectly still for hours without blinking and barely breathing to the point they would sometimes think the cameras broken. Somehow this translates to Marvie's marvelousness.

 

[Gremlin Jack]

But because of this their entire careers could fit into a High School or College tenure, especially considering a proper human career path would outlive a horse's entire life multiple times over. Not really enough for that to work for proper lifetime so it simply doesn't acknowledge anything outside Tracen excluding shoppes and terrain.

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Thanks. So, basically, its never elaborated on.

I was just looking up IRL racing. IRL, racehorses start racing at age 2, and the "Triple Crown" is age-restricted to 3 year old horses. That explains why horses only run the Triple Crown once, since they'll need that first year to qualify.

But that does not translate well to human-horse hybrids. I suppose we can say, in this setting, musume are only permitted to race the Triple Crown within two years of their professional debut. And if we further say that musume hit physical peak much younger than humans, it makes sense for 15 year olds to be racing at the highest levels.

Where the comparison falls apart is that race horses peak at age 5, translating to a racing career 3-4 years long, whereas top track athletes have a career of 8-12 years. Even if we say that the uma musume racing has a much higher stress and tempo than human racing, they should still have a racing career twice as long as real horses, call it 6-8 years.

And the industry should be full of "track specialists". Uma musume who are past their peak (so, actual legal adults) and can no longer win in most races, but who, through sheer experience, keep winning and qualifying on one particular track.

 

[TheSmallSauce]

All right, can someone please help me out here with the lore. Why does it sound a lot like all uma races are restricted to high school students? Symboli Rudolf is in her last year at high school (I'm assuming, since she's on the student council) and is already being talked of like her racing career is mostly over. Are all these races, with fortunes on offer in the prize pool, still just training races for young horses? Is there something above G1 that are there for true career racing uma? Or do uma musume peak as racers in their late teens, and older uma simply can't keep up?

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Umamusume takes inspiration from actual horseracing traditions, the restriction of certain races to first or second year highschool students is supposed to mimic the real life convention of handicap races that restrict certain races by age or gender. Basically a way to even the level of competition so that younger horses don't find themselves racing against more mature and developed horses, cause horses aren't really done growing at three years of age. If these handicaps didn't exist, you'd probably never see a horse win in their three year old season unless they were truly exceptional. You can think of it how the NCAA is open only to college athletes, cause having teenagers playing against adult professionals is unfair if you consider the difference in experience and physical conditioning.

We aren't actually given much racing lore outside of the Twinkle Series, which is the competitive circuit of Umamusume, at least in Japan. The whole deal with Symboli Rudolf and umas from older generations is that time just... doesn't work, or rather it works in service of the setting. It's impossible to have a traditional Japanese three year highschool setting with all of these popular umas attending at the same time, considering the range of racehorse generations represented in-game spans from 1977 (Maruzensky) to 2021 (Forever Young). So it's just treated as such that some of the older umas have already gone through their Twinkle Series racing careers and are going to graduate. Some fanfics have interpreted Tracen as a highschool-university combo, so Rudolf and Maruzensky are something more like... college students instead?

If you want to go by the career stories in the games themselves, it seems that many of the umas who finish their Twinkle Series careers and graduated decide to go overseas to continue racing. There are races with a minimum age requirement, the L'arc comes to mind with it's minimum three year old requirement, but no age cap, so older horses are free to race in them. A lot of the time, this seems to be the answer for what happens to older umas: they go overseas to continue racing. Though since most successful racehorse careers go on no longer than 5 years, I guess you can say that most umas just decide to retire after graduation. Kinda like people who go for state championships or competitions and have a successful student-athlete career but decide not to pursue it after graduation.

 

[Gremlin Jack]

Though since most successful racehorse careers go on no longer than 5 years, I guess you can say that most umas just decide to retire after graduation. Kinda like people who go for state championships or competitions and have a student-athlete career but decide not to pursue it after graduation.

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So there are hints of a pro racing career for horses well into adulthood. Fair enough. Yeah, those races have to be filled with the very best of the best from around the world with the strength and resilience to keep racing year after year. And OP has already hinted that the real limit on uma musume careers are injuries rather than age. Makes sense that even a phenom like Rudolf is mostly retired after just a handful of years (6 if we assume she's in college).

 

[Crispy Taco Shell]

All right, can someone please help me out here with the lore. Why does it sound a lot like all uma races are restricted to high school students? Symboli Rudolf is in her last year at high school (I'm assuming, since she's on the student council) and is already being talked of like her racing career is mostly over. Are all these races, with fortunes on offer in the prize pool, still just training races for young horses? Is there something above G1 that are there for true career racing uma? Or do uma musume peak as racers in their late teens, and older uma simply can't keep up?

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The lifespan for athletes in high-intensity sports (sprinters, gymnastics, figure skating, etc) are typically very short. Most peak around 20-23 years and are forced to retire shortly after due to injury and declining performance. Uma derbies would definitely qualify as a high-intensity sport so while higher age bracket races may exist, the real interest is in the highschool/college level races. That's where the peak performance athletes are. Sad but understandable.

In canon, it was acknowledged that umas mature much faster than humans do. Combine that faster maturity with increased lifetime performance and you'd get a people that have shorter lifespans too. So even with modern medical intervention, an otherwise healthy uma could simply drop dead of a heart attack or cancer by their 40s or 50s.

Shirogane's endurance and resistance to injury could mean that, if she chooses to, she could continue to race competitively long after everyone of her era had retired.

So here is this one, tenacious uma musume. The last living relic of the Golden Generation. She is 37 years old, and her overall rating of 72 is a far cry from the 95 rating she enjoyed two decades ago. She remains the Silver Goddess of the dirt racetrack.

 

[Chronometry]

As regards the biology, I think it's a canon thing that Umamusume have a peak performance period sometime in their teenage years, outside of which they physically cannot compete at the same level. It's mentioned in Meisho Doto's career mode, I believe.

 

[Lyrista]

As regards the biology, I think it's a canon thing that Umamusume have a peak performance period sometime in their teenage years, outside of which they physically cannot compete at the same level. It's mentioned in Meisho Doto's career mode, I believe.

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*glances at Marzuensky*

Teenager.....

Right......................

 

[Crispy Taco Shell]

They're also compared to elves in that they maintain their youth for longer then humans. And of course they're simply physically superior then humans which was the point of the elf comparison.

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It's been mentioned by that traffic cop in the early chapters that umas maintain their youthful appearance for longer than humans. There is no mention of their actual health and longevity. So for all we know, that cute lil' uma girl down the street is actually a curmudgeonly, geriatric nag riddled with dementia and osteoporosis.

 

[Gremlin Jack]

So even with modern medical intervention, an otherwise healthy uma could simply drop dead of a heart attack or cancer by their 40s or 50s.

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If that were a thing, then no one would be happy about their daughter being an uma musume, and Tanya would be pretty pissed too. I think we can say they remain youthful in appearance for longer but have lifespans similar to regular humans.

I think it's a canon thing that Umamusume have a peak performance period sometime in their teenage years, outside of which they physically cannot compete at the same level. It's mentioned in Meisho Doto's career mode, I believe.

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The lifespan for athletes in high-intensity sports (sprinters, gymnastics, figure skating, etc) are typically very short. Most peak around 20-23 years and are forced to retire shortly after due to injury and declining performance. Uma derbies would definitely qualify as a high-intensity sport

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This makes more sense. So, uma musume with their faster maturity reach their physical peak at around 16-17, and are usually retired by... 20 sounds about right, almost certainly due to wear and tear. In a less physically stressful sport, they could probably keep going for way longer.

*glances at Marzuensky*

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And there will be the odd musume with an unusually long career, simply because they won the no-injury lottery.

So here is this one, tenacious uma musume. The last living relic of the Golden Generation. She is 37 years old, and her overall rating of 72 is a far cry from the 95 rating she enjoyed two decades ago. She remains the Silver Goddess of the dirt racetrack.

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I don't think Tanya's going to be that stubborn. But it will be funny to see her competing until she's 30. Of course, the only races she competes in at that age are 3km+ races, where she is an eternal menace to the dreams of young umamusume.

 

[Introverted]

I don't think Tanya's going to be that stubborn. But it will be funny to see her competing until she's 30. Of course, the only races she competes in at that age are 3km+ races, where she is an eternal menace to the dreams of young umamusume.

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As funny as that is Tanya is more likely to start looking to transition for a "real" job by then.
Remember that she is very career driven and probably knows that her racing career is basically a short job before she probably inherits the Family Restaurant.

 

[Gremlin Jack]

As funny as that is Tanya is more likely to start looking to transition for a "real" job by then.

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She does have a real job by then. Competing in 3km+ races is her hobby. International G1 3km races are where she takes her vacations