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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Discussion in 'Creative Writing' started by Mr Zoat, Jan 27, 2019.

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  1. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    Thank you, corrected.
    Because Oggar didn't share his power. Him withdrawing his cooperation because Shazam was getting the lion's share of the credit was what led to their confrontation.
     
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    Clell65619 Making the rounds.

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    - In the canon origin, the Hall's father was a Judge.

    - It's nice to see the original Hawk and Dove characters, and especially to see Don as more than the pathetic whining wimp Ditko and Giordano made him into because they didn't think an agent of Order (thinly veiled 'liberal') could be proactive in the pursuit of his goals and the defense of his family.
     
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  3. RichardWhereat

    RichardWhereat Aia airëa Fëanáro.

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    Yes, some people have been kind enough to let me know.
     
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    rkyeun Cabbitus Maximus

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    Judge is a subset of lawyer.
     
  5. Ganurath

    Ganurath Apologizes For Nothing

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    With great power comes great responsibility. Pity Uncle Ben never specified what definition of responsibility applied.
     
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  6. Someguy Somewhere

    Someguy Somewhere The Critical Fumbler

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    Was curious when these two were going to show up, ever since Paragon Constantine got the Helm. While they're a bit goofy here, Hawk and Dove are one of the better examples of Order and Chaos working together in DC. Hopefully getting to them early saves them the headaches they have later on, and their replacements.
     
  7. Coda

    Coda Versed in the lewd.

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    It's a Britishism that's vaguely similar to calling someone "son" in the US, though a step more polite.
     
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  8. Pinklestia

    Pinklestia Well worn.

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    After making a pun about them being empowered by a Black Panther?
     
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  9. Threadmarks: Back Door (supplementary, Renegade Option)
    Mr Zoat

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    8th July 2012
    19:35 GMT -7


    Henry grins confidently as Sunset wraps a runic armlet around his upper right arm.

    "Hey. Where you been all my life?"

    Sunset turns to repeat the process on Donald, causing Henry to miss her rolling her eyes but enabling his brother to see it very easily.

    "Wilson."

    "Ah. Is 'Wilson' your boyfriend?"

    "It's what Grayven decided to call my planet. Too tight?"

    Donald shakes his head. "No, that's fine. How is this going to work?"

    "You said that your clothes vanish when you transform. These-" She taps the main rune array. "-are essentially… 'Magic homing beacons'. Or magic mass spectrometers. Whether they go with your clothes or stay where they are, they'll be exposed to enough of the magic involved that I should be able to build a summoning array to put us in direct contact with your sponsor."

    Both brothers nod. I've checked their school reports, and Donald was telling the truth. Just as he's a perfectly capable fighter, his brother is a perfectly capable thinker. A preference for direct measures doesn't mean that he can't reason or understand long words.

    "So you're an alien chick."

    Even if he happens to prefer short ones.

    "No, I'm an alien pony."

    Henry looks surprised for a moment, then grins and nods.

    "Hey babe, I'm down for-.

    "I literally transformed into a human when I came through a magic mirror. I'm naturally an equine quadruped."

    I raise my eyebrows. Given the effort she went through… "Hexruped."

    "Hm?" She blinks. "Oh. Yes." She checks her work and then stands well back out of the containment circle. "I wonder why the wings don't carry over into this shape?"

    "Humans don't naturally come with wings any more than they come with horns. Maybe if…" I frown. "Could you shift the end point to Thanagar? That might work."

    "Only if Thanagar was mystically active." She makes momentary eye contact with Henry and Donald. "Are you both ready?"

    "Sure." / "Yeah."

    Sunset lowers rune-encrusted goggles over her eyes. "Then go ahead."

    "Hawk!" / "Dove!"

    I frown. "Do you actually need to shout-?

    An aura like a child's drawing of fire envelops Henry, while a simple blue-white band passes over Donald. Their costumes begin to appear, then in both cases the arcane effect stops, reverses, then shifts to the armlet.

    "Huh?" Henry holds his arm out and stares at it. "That never happened before."

    I stare at the light. "Looks like someone's not stupid. Sunset?"

    Sunset gestures, and the lights float out of the circle to hover just in front of her.

    "Huh. It should be easy enough to connect something to this."

    "Good." I step forward and grab one with each hand. "Speak, outsiders."

    "That wasn't what I-!"

    "Ping."

    The lights flow along the tron lines of my armour and my awareness… Stretches outside of my physical form, outside of my corporeal surroundings. It's a little like what happens when I use my abilities as a New God, only more… Profane. I can still feel my body, still see through my eyes… It's like hearing your name in a noisy room, or smelling a sudden scent of shit in a garden.

    I haven't gone anywhere. But I'm experiencing… A white sky dotted with black stars. A barren floating island of translucent pink crystal.

    And them. A giant green dragon is actually a good deal more mundane than I was expecting for… Either a Lord of Order or a Lord of Chaos. And… Its weirdly out of place necklace. I… Suppose it's no stranger than a helmet or a cat.

    And then I look again and I see a face shown in relief, edges picked out by flames burning from an unidentifiable source, and a feminine figure made of fragments of blue glass. That's more like it.

    "I am Grayven. Who am I talking to?" "I am Conquest."

    The dragon lands on the floating crystal island, bending down so that its muzzle is just above me.

    "I am T'Charr, Lord of Chaos."

    "I assume that you know what I've done to every other Lord of Chaos I've encountered."

    "They won't be missed."

    "Not by me, and that's really all I care about. What are you doing?"

    The dragon rears up slightly, perhaps trying to give the necklace a better view. The Lord of Order, presumably. It shimmers with the same blue/white light that Donald was glowing with.

    "We are demonstrating the effectiveness of a partnership between Order and Chaos. The two brothers have different temperaments, and yet they work best together. They cover one another's weaknesses and complement one another's strengths."

    "And you're just giving them power. You have no plans to come to Earth yourselves."

    T'Charr nods. "And our having this compact with them will prevent other Lords entering your realm, just as if we were present in person."

    I nod. "And that's all you're doing? No plan to possess them and walk around in their bodies? No plan to found some sort of cult to boost your exposure?"

    The necklace… Someone shakes a head it doesn't have. "No. That would defeat the object of the exercise."

    "And if they piggyback on your power to become Lords themselves?"

    The dragon smiles. "Then there will be four who have learned the value of cooperation and collaboration, rather than just two."

    "Alright, fine. But if you're lying, I will kill you both."

    I open my hands, and my awareness of whatever I just experienced fades as the magic flames in my hands shoot across the room and envelop its owners. A moment later their… Truly horrible costumes appear on their bodies.

    Sunset looks at me curiously. "Grayven?"

    "Just had a word with their-." I turn to the Hall brothers. "Your sponsors. I believe that we can work together. Though my warning about making pacts with eldritch creatures still stands."

    Donald nods. "That's-."

    "Work together?!" Henry grins, his face mask not covering his chin at all. "You mean..?"

    "How would you lads like a job this summer?"
     
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  10. Darko

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    'have you been'

    Kinky bastard.

    'naturally an'

    It is, but I doubt its safe in that department, what with the Seven Devils probably having more success and more cultists due to lack of Lanterns to kill them.

    You killed four and enslaved another. They're right to be cautious.

    'through my tron'

    Nice to know that just because a person is chaotic they can still be decent.

    'have no plans'

    What about Nabu?

    Unless they removed his status as a Lord and he's now just some super powerful order elemental?

    'have learned' or 'learnt'

    Hey, if they can have awesome powers then their fashion is inconsequential.

    How did Constantine prevent them from empowering these two paragon side?

    Did he stop them deliberately or did they find his presence as enough to prove cooperation can work, like because a chaotic person is fighting for order by stopping chaotic people?

    There was this comic in which Harley Quinn is a candidate for becoming a champion for both sides due to her chaotic nature but also because she fights for order, like in her Suicide Squad moments or some other such moments, though a Tamaranean servant is made champion at the end.
     
  11. Chojin Patriarch

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    Another planet, And if you don't stop playing around like a lovestruck colt, she'll go right back there. Honestly, does the man prefer to think with his lower head or what? :rolleyes:

    I bet this is all too familiar a sight for Donnie. The clumsy pick-up lines, not the magical science, at least...

    A pity that video is lost to the depths of the internet's trash-heap...

    Now, the question is how will those sponsors take that? They're fairly easy-going for Lords, but having someone chasing them back to their home realm might be a bit offensive...

    Ah, Hank. Hoping to follow in the footsteps of many a sci-fi hero captain and score some space babes? Unfortunately, you're too anthropomorphic for her tastes...

    Now, to be fair, while true, that sounds like total sarcasm...

    And I doubt even Hank is down for non-humanoids. Pity, some fans would kill for the chance...

    Same reason you didn't have a horn, after all. Even Luna will lack wings and horn when she eventually tries the mirror...

    Hmm... Nth Metal could probably provide the magical horsepower needed... But that might get the attention of the Thanagarian Gods...

    Oooh, you know this is going to be fancy when they pull out the protective-slash-diagnostic eyewear.

    It's the done thing with transformation phrases, really. The Marvel family all shout it, when given the chance... Guess it helps with the whole intent thing.

    :confused: ...Did Grayven literally find them in that fight, just before they busted out the capes? Fortuitous timing.

    Still not enough for them to disconnect, though. I wonder if they actually could? Hmm... If they channeled enough power into the spell she's using, it would probably break.. explosively.

    No wasting time on this one, huh, Grayven?

    Even Mother Box is a little impressed at how foolish that was? :rolleyes: Ah, Grayven...

    Trippy. An astral connection, eh?

    Hey, if you can be a Dragon, why would you not? It's physically powerful and mystically potent.

    Don't make a Smaug joke, Grayven. Or any kind of dragon-related joke, for that matter...

    Even Chaos has standards, I see. Presumably he's a more considered fellow, rather than the wild mayhem the others favoured.

    Interesting choice, using a focus that relies on another's wearing it. Presumably if she manifested on Earth, she'd work like Nabu did, through a mortal agent.

    He's not even questioning it, of course. Far safer to work at a remove, after all. Lessens the chance of getting stabbed with a knife that removes your power.

    Hardly necessary. If they were the sort to want that, they'd already have it elsewhere.

    And that's what they really want, isn't it? They want to show they're right.

    Hey, they were designed back in the fifties, Grayven. That was moderately stylish back then. And they at least look like superheroes.

    Might also need to give them the talk about consuming energy fields bigger than their heads. Hell, give them the whole rundown on what not to do...

    More recruits for Grayven's sort-of army, eh? Two more warriors who will hopefully one day lead the fight to protect Earth from Darkseid...

    Ah, Renegade-style Diplomacy. Fast, aggressive and with the implied threat of violence if you don't play nice. Good to see it worked with T'Charr and Terataya. And Grayven benefits by having no more itinerant Lords of Order or Chaos showing up in his backyard.


    Godspeech!
     
  12. Vaermina

    Vaermina Well worn.

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    It's adorable that you think you actually can.
     
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    Truly when we think he has reached the end of his foolishness he can still surprise us.

    Still it's less foolish then when he thought the Light was a good idea in improving society, even though they have the morality and ethics of a frat house, albeit less sexist and xenophobic, and thought that they were more than just a bunch of emotionally immature sociopaths that can make pick-up artists seem emotionally stable and healthy, and whose plans would probably lead to them becoming like the Fraternity from Wanted, with less advancement for society and more having a bunch or perverse and immature sociopaths running around with no one to stop them.

    Kaiba would be jealous.

    Or just the evil.

    Mordru wasn't like the others in causing random destruction, but he was still an evil, sick bastard.

    Or have her own body, but the necklace keeps it there.

    And presumably stop the conflicts between their sides.
     
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    Rebu hey, little Anna, you're the one

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    The effects department is really cutting corners this season.
     
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    Z3r0Sama Not too sore, are you?

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    But Light 2.0 is improving society? The EDF that they created has made defense of the Earth into a mass participation event rather than supers only clubhouse.

    We always knew he found the originals morons and was going to purge them, but the underlying idea of giving humanity a kick to get out its funk was sound.
     
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    I was talking about the originals, and there were moments where I thought he actually believed that they were a good idea.
     
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    It's adorable that you think he actually can't.
     
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    Huh. Chaos and Order working together. Nice.

    Isn't Constantine in the same situation? Or did that only happen on Paragon Earth?

    He might find these two helpful.

    ParaPaul would also hire them to teach others cooperation.
     
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    BlueMangoAdea Alive. For now.

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    Just paragon, though it looks like Constantine ditched the helmet, even in Paragon Earth. Additionally, he showed discomfort at using both order and chaos when he last saw Paragon!Paul.
     
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    Only happened paragon side.

    Renegade Constantine is helping with the magic scholl and some other things, but that's it.

    Apparently they weren't empowered in the paragon side, so he may not even know about them.
     
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    CTrees Chasing the ring

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    Hexapod, I think. It's the difference between tetrapods (which have four limbs) and quadrupeds (which use four limbs for walking). Humans and most birds are not quadrupeds, though they are tetrapods, because they only use two of their four limbs for walking. So winged ponies would be quadrupedal examples of hexapods.

    Of course, hexruped appears to be a neologism anyway, but I'm trying to base this off the existing construction of the terms for "has x limbs" versus "uses x limbs to walk," which are technically oversimplifications anyway... And that's as far as I really want to ponder biological etymology, especially as it relates to my little pony.
     
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    DrThoth I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    I am very much looking forward to Renegade encountering both the Thanagarian Seven Devils Cultists and the central government, possibly as part of his plans for an arcane interstellar network with Earth and Zerox and others (possibly Mars and Euphorix too). I assume the Justice League Hawks have been sending reports back home about him so I'm curious about any possible responses they may have.
     
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    That would show better diction, but this is Henry.
    No, his parents were married.
    Thank you, corrected.
    Yes, but I'm not sure that he's doing that by showing no concern at all for his late colleagues.
    Thank you, corrected.
    He's a construct. He's not even that.
    Thank you, corrected.
    Gosh no. He'd love to dump his position on someone else, or at least get some help from these two. Unfortunately, neither of them have been to Earth before and since the other Lords don't like to talk about them, he hasn't heard of them.
    That sounds like a weak reason.
    You are correct and Grayven is wrong. Sunset just didn't care enough to correct him.
     
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    Ehh, people can still be decent even if they don't care about the deaths of monsters.
     
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    It is about time Grayven Superhero Team becomes active again.

    New God, he actually can.

    Lords of Order and or Chaos are lower in power that New Gods is just that New Gods are usually seen fighting FREAKING SUPERMAN that's why they look weak.

    Granted a Lord of Chaos or Order can be quite powerful... with enough preparation but that's the usual "A Wizard beats anyone with enough resources and time" thing.
     
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    I think he can't, because he can't.

    His entire success against past Lords relied on ambushes with his Super Magic Sword, which he lost in a sun. And wouldn't even work here if he had it since the Lords in question don't have a corporeal form available for him to stab.



    Darkseid was killed by Batman.

    You have massively overestimated how power New God's actually are.

    Even Zoat level New Gods which have been buffed into absurdity.
     
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    No he was not.

    He just lost his current body and have Batman a fuck you on a very powerful curse that Batman only overcame because all the time travel ended making the curse like Batman.

    Only Orion can kill Darkseid for real, because destiny says so.

    Even sticking Darkseid on the Source Wall didn't last because if he was stuck in the Source Wall forever then Orion won't kill him.
     
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    To quote what Obi-Wan should have said: "I'd like to see this prophecy, please. In full. Sourced."
     
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    Stsword Versed in the lewd.

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    Fortunately for Darkseid there is one force more powerful than prophecy- dc editorial greed and cowardice.

    Kirby intended for Darkseid to be the first against the wall when the glorious lowly revolution came, but that would have prevented DC from squeezing out every last penny.

    So the prophecy was thwarted because DC wanted action figure money.
     
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