A New Tournament (Harry Potter & SG:SG1)

[killgore444]

Should be a Ravenclaw†​

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I based the list off a picture taken by a photographer during an interview Rowlings gave. She had a list of names that she said was Harry's year mates. Whoever was doing the website had gone through the video upside down to get screen captions good enough to read the names. It's possible she later changed it, but outside of fanfiction, Li is never mentioned after the second book. Same as Perks. I could have sworn I saw her name in the books as being in the Gryffindor common room, so combining the two things, she's one of the five Gryffindor girls.

Actually, a canon character. She was one of the Gryffindor chasers in Harry's 6th year.

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Good to know. I was sure I'd seen it, but for the life of me couldn't remember. The name crops up quite often in fanfiction, but so did Charlus and Dorea (which are still much beter than Rowlings names).

Makes me wish all public buildings could be built from the remains of those who have displeased.

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With magic, nearly anything is possible. In a D&D game I once ran, I had one of the local customs be that anyone who died and couldn't be resurrected was turned to stone and then stoneshaped into bricks. Not only did this create a superstition of their souls helping buildings stand, but greatly reduced the threat of necromancers.

As for this particular instance, think about an entire faculty for a school made up of Umbridge clones and you get the idea of what the school was like. Except, since they weren't teaching the kids of the Wizengamot members, they had even less restraint than Umbridge had. The voices only scream on the final day of testing to earn their teaching degrees, so it's not a constant sound. There has been several claims that it's all just hype and illusions, after all, there are spells that allow you to charm a frog to sing, why not rocks to scream. But each time it's been tested by outsiders (including England), it's been found to be the truth. One of the background elements in my world is that a young kid who served as a drummer boy in the war of 1812 went to the school and went on to become the Secretary of Magic. From 1860 to 1930 when he was replaced, and again in 1946 after Grindelwald's War, when everyone thought the relations of the magical governments was finally going to improve, and the British Minister of Magic asked the then American Secretary of Magic when they were going to start the reintegration back into British rule. After that, he returned to power and kept it until rally advanced age finally forced him out in 1980 (at 180yo).

Oh, yeah, forgot to mention, the magical counterparts to England and the U.S. get on only a little better than Palestinians and Israelis. Ok, not quite that bad, but you get the idea. Grudges last a long time when people live more than twice as long as baseline humans.

OK, I need sleep and trying to preview what I write is just becoming a blurry mess. See you on Sunday night.

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[moontheir4]

I based the list off a picture taken by a photographer during an interview Rowlings gave. She had a list of names that she said was Harry's year mates. Whoever was doing the website had gone through the video upside down to get screen captions good enough to read the names. It's possible she later changed it, but outside of fanfiction, Li is never mentioned after the second book. Same as Perks. I could have sworn I saw her name in the books as being in the Gryffindor common room, so combining the two things, she's one of the five Gryffindor girls.

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Ah, the dagger was a link to a page with the image of her notes (presumably the same one you're referencing as it's the only one I've ever heard of) that shows Su Li as a raven. Not a huge deal to me, but you've put in the effort to place all the members of their year so I thought I'd point it out.

Oh, yeah, forgot to mention, the magical counterparts to England and the U.S. get on only a little better than Palestinians and Israelis. Ok, not quite that bad, but you get the idea. Grudges last a long time when people live more than twice as long as baseline humans.

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And Harry's a US citizen (maybe) representing a US school? Where's that popcorn.

 

[Mr Zoat]

actually, does England do PUBLIC libraries or is that a U.S. thing

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Yes, we have public libraries. We also have roads, water pipes, brick houses and dentists, and jokes aside we do actually use that last one, we just don't go in for cosmetic dentistry as much as the US.

 

[killgore444]

Yes, we have public libraries. We also have roads, water pipes, brick houses and dentists, and jokes aside we do actually use that last one, we just don't go in for cosmetic dentistry as much as the US.

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Cute, but I was specifically referring to public libraries lending out books. Since the school library is mentioned in canon, I'd kind of assumed you had libraries in general. What I wasn't sure of, is that any member of the public can just walk in and borrow a book as long as they fill out a card form, or if there is one found in nearly every town in the nation. That is what I wasn't sure of, since I've never seen a Britpicker mention one in any story they write, but Americans don't hesitate to have Harry or Hermione visit the local library,

 

[Mr Zoat]

Cute, but I was specifically referring to public libraries lending out books. Since the school library is mentioned in canon, I'd kind of assumed you had libraries in general. What I wasn't sure of, is that any member of the public can just walk in and borrow a book as long as they fill out a card form, or if there is one found in nearly every town in the nation. That is what I wasn't sure of, since I've never seen a Britpicker mention one in any story they write, but Americans don't hesitate to have Harry or Hermione visit the local library,

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Proof.

 

[killgore444]

Proof.

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And that mostly answered the question. No sarcasm needed.

There are a fuckton of differences between America and Britain. I try not to assume that things I'm familiar with here are the same there. Since public libraries started here as a charity made by a rich person, before essentially becoming a mandatory city government responsibility, why would I think that the same thing happened in England? And that libraries there weren't still limited to members of whatever organization was funding it?

One of the Reddit forums had an interesting thread about what people were surprised to learn was English rather than magical world from the books.It was an interesting read, even if I knew most of them when I read the books.

 

[Kris-71854]

The only character that usually has free use of public libraries is Hermione.

There are a few fics where Harry hides out in the school library or the nearby Surrey Library hiding from Dudley and his gang.

Harry only being able to access his elementary school library makes a bit of sense. Hiding out there? Not so much. I always remember the entire class being escorted to the library at once. We weren't just allowed to visit at lunch or just after school at that age.

It wasn't until Junior High that you could visit the library after school or during lunch. It was more convenient at High School.

Now, considering 98% of all HP fanfiction happens in Hogwarts which has the most awesome library ever... It rarely comes up. The only reason folks visit family libraries is that some family library has to have some long-lost or private family-only stuff in them.

I think you did rather well with what your Harry found in each of the various properties. A bookshelf with some fiction and reference books related to their personal hobby or profession makes sense. Maybe, old school books if they don't get rid of them.

It always amazes me that there is a nearby library somewhat close to the park that Harry can sometimes escape to. Actually getting to the public library wasn't something possible until I had regular access to a car and could drive. It wasn't a place we routinely went. I could vaguely remember a handful of trips for looking things up for school reports. Nothing at the below 11 year age though.

I recall seeing a sign about not leaving unattended kids in the library once. They didn't want some folks dropping the kids off when the library opened and picking them up when it closed. They are a library and not a daycare. They also aren't responsible if someone kidnaps one of those kids as they aren't supposed to be directly supervising them like that.

I'd love to see Hermione rant running afoul of a rule like that.

 

[killgore444]

The only character that usually has free use of public libraries is Hermione.

There are a few fics where Harry hides out in the school library or the nearby Surrey Library hiding from Dudley and his gang.

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My point was that you never see Britpickers [nitpickers over keeping HP free from Americanisms or the influences of other culture] have it at all. As such, while writing the comment a ways above, it suddenly dawned on me that I had no idea if England does public access libraries, if so, how common they are, etc.

Harry only being able to access his elementary school library makes a bit of sense. Hiding out there? Not so much. I always remember the entire class being escorted to the library at once. We weren't just allowed to visit at lunch or just after school at that age.

It wasn't until Junior High that you could visit the library after school or during lunch. It was more convenient at High School.

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This is the types of differences that matter. For me growing up, in grade school, we could visit the library any time school was in session and we didn't need to be in class, and up to an hour before and after school. But in High School, we needed a pass from a teacher do to issues with drugs and in previous years, students caught having sex there.

It always amazes me that there is a nearby library somewhat close to the park that Harry can sometimes escape to. Actually getting to the public library wasn't something possible until I had regular access to a car and could drive. It wasn't a place we routinely went. I could vaguely remember a handful of trips for looking things up for school reports. Nothing at the below 11 year age though.

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See, this was again the exact opposite for me. When I was young, I lived a block from a library, and even after my Mom went back to nursing school and was no longer a librarian, I still spent way more time there than I probably should have since most of my friends lived in other towns or on farms and I only really saw them at school.

I recall seeing a sign about not leaving unattended kids in the library once. They didn't want some folks dropping the kids off when the library opened and picking them up when it closed. They are a library and not a daycare. They also aren't responsible if someone kidnaps one of those kids as they aren't supposed to be directly supervising them like that.

I'd love to see Hermione rant running afoul of a rule like that.

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This is probably an age thing as most parents didn't have an issue with other adults spanking you if you were acting like a brat as long as they didn't go overboard. Or a small town vs large city thing. I'm quite sure places like Chicago had rather strict rules about children running amok. But small town Iowa, were everyone was at least somewhat known to everyone else, and parents/grandparents could be called without having to try and trick the kid into giving an adult their parents phone number, it was somewhat less of a concern.

 

[Mr Zoat]

Harry only being able to access his elementary school library makes a bit of sense. Hiding out there? Not so much. I always remember the entire class being escorted to the library at once. We weren't just allowed to visit at lunch or just after school at that age.

It wasn't until Junior High that you could visit the library after school or during lunch. It was more convenient at High School.

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Primary and Secondary, not Elementary and J-.

My point was that you never see Britpickers [nitpickers over keeping HP free from Americanisms or the influences of other culture] have it at all.

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I may be called out, but I still stand by it.