GiftofLove
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If soul actually exist in this fic, I would think that soul is separated from memory and personality.
So even with continued consciousness, Lisa can't really read it.
So even with continued consciousness, Lisa can't really read it.
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Lisa probably sees the Shard connection's interface uptime counter.
A new uptime counter starts up when there is an abnormal interface discontinuity.
Stop being such a Linux chauvinist, Lisa. Some people need periodic hard reboots to keep functioning efficiently, or at all.
A new uptime counter starts up when there is an abnormal interface discontinuity.
Stop being such a Linux chauvinist, Lisa. Some people need periodic hard reboots to keep functioning efficiently, or at all.
SwiftRosenthal
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Also, Taylor? Hug Lisa until she stops protesting. She needs it.
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This and everything that follows re: drug piles and living Synth seem to confirm that Anima's power, if not in charge of the power interaction, was at directing it. Citrine (is that Citrine next to her?) seems to have been (one of) the other power in use. Or maybe they second triggered due to the circumstances.
I feel like the dimensional lag is very important. QA specializes in instant communication.
It's true. I go "Do they have a backup?" whenever something bad happens. If they do, gravy, if not... well, it was nice knowing them, and I hope their contribution to the death of Scion isn't lost.
Gosh, I wonder if Cauldron is hiring?
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Wow, that was interesting.
Comments and typos:
Two, you didn't mention Zack, who dies on a daily basis, and comes back to life. He's died more than the whole team put together. You didn't mention his name, so you're just fine with him dying and returning, which makes you a howling hypocrite when you decide that everyone else's deaths and revival make them not who they once were.
And 'living' as opposed to 'original'? Wow, that's cold. Seriously, that's cold. At worst, Taylor and the others are the descendants of the originals, and have inherited the positions, and their powers as well. Plus, their memories and personalities.
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Why had
Hah!
Lisa must be rattled if she's using ain't.
trying, kittens. OR tryin' , a declawed kitten
I call bullshit, Lisa. Two reasons. One, you first started associating with Taylor to prevent her from committing suicide, and then you drove her to suicide. So this isn't about Taylor or any of the others being dead, this is about your own feelings of guilt. You don't want to look your own mistake in the eye, so you're shoving her away.
Two, you didn't mention Zack, who dies on a daily basis, and comes back to life. He's died more than the whole team put together. You didn't mention his name, so you're just fine with him dying and returning, which makes you a howling hypocrite when you decide that everyone else's deaths and revival make them not who they once were.
And 'living' as opposed to 'original'? Wow, that's cold. Seriously, that's cold. At worst, Taylor and the others are the descendants of the originals, and have inherited the positions, and their powers as well. Plus, their memories and personalities.
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Nope, the way I have that is valid English.
This, on the other hand, typo...
I should probably change that to "founding" members instead.
To be fair, though... Zach was doing the dying repeatedly thing since before Lisa knew him. Hard to mourn someone you've never met.
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Not my English. That sentence reads like it's missing a word to me. Maybe it's a dialect thing?
(Probably unrelated: please tell me you're not one of the people who says "what happen?" when asking about the past.)
Edit: "Why the guy thought it was a good idea to try to mug someone on Avalon, I will never know" works fine for me. Just sticking a question mark after 'Avalon' makes me pull up short and wonder what I missed.
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No, you see, the iteration of Zack who Lisa met was a founding member. After that, yeah, he was dead many times over.
And she never mourned that iteration either.
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True, but he died during his recruitment, so, she never met the one who joined. 
Also- Lisa and Zach have a somewhat trolly working relationship. They're not emotionally close. Granted, she's not really close to Theo or Missy, but more than Zach, and she actually knew them for a while before their deaths.
Also- Lisa and Zach have a somewhat trolly working relationship. They're not emotionally close. Granted, she's not really close to Theo or Missy, but more than Zach, and she actually knew them for a while before their deaths.
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Zach comes back a perfect copy. Because his is a power thing, you could say his brain was uploaded to the shard and is fed back in every time. Only difference I can really tell.
Also he isn't Lisa's BFF.
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Neither is Taylor anymore, I imagine, after six-plus months of power-induced angst and whatnot.
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Well, obviously not Taylor. Taylor's dead, afterall.
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It's ok. Eventually we'll edit out all the parts that disagree with us.
Thus Lisa got a Coil Cap.
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Coil/Moord Nag parasite, forcing Lisa to understand clones as extensions of the originals. You know, just like normal people who aren't pointlessly angsting.
It's disappointing that such a step can even be necessary. Not shocking, anymore, just disappointing. This shouldn't have even been a problem.
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Compare "Why the guy thought it was a good idea to try to mug someone on Avalon... [I had/have no idea]" and "Why had the guy thought it was a good idea to try to mug someone on Avalon?" to what you have written. Grammatically correct or not, it feels like it's structured as a statement that then has this weird question mark tacked on.
I think the Zach argument is Taylor's best bet here.
...It's weird to think that Zach of all people has, on average, better continuity of consciousness than a baseline human. Excepting Tohu (at least I think it was Tohu), Zach has basically zero gaps in his memory or perception, compared to most people sleeping for a third of their lives. This despite him dying every few minutes.
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Was this supposed to be Lily instead of Sabah? Sabah was unconscious a few lines ago.
Jesus fucking christ, Taylor. I can't remember if she knows how terrible saying this to Lisa is.
Now, I don't care where you fall on the clone thing. Assuming their deaths didn't affect them or their teammates/loved ones is a pretty dick move. Presumably she didn't mean it "like that", but it has the same result.
Obviously, the solution is to kill and revive Lisa.
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I think hitting her with a power inhibitor might work too...
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Maybe Lisa should go and ask Amelia, the person whose power lets her unravel every single secret of any organism she touches, whether she thinks that Vicky is 'real' or not.
And then, when she says, "Oh, her opinion won't count, because she isn't the 'real' Amelia," slap her upside the head.
If a clone can pass the 'duck test', then it should be accepted by one and all as the original.
Provided, of course, that the original isn't still running around
And then, when she says, "Oh, her opinion won't count, because she isn't the 'real' Amelia," slap her upside the head.
If a clone can pass the 'duck test', then it should be accepted by one and all as the original.
Provided, of course, that the original isn't still running around
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And then Amelia breaks down in tears, because (thanks to the brain edits, both pre- and post-mortem) she already knows the answer is 'no', and she'll never really have her sister back.
(I don't actually hold this opinion, but "the current Vicky is really Vicky" is a bit of a stronger statement than "the current Taylor is really Taylor".)
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I am greatly amused by the incredibly subtle reference to the old "Some dumbass tried to mug taylor" joke.
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And Lisa's habit of never acknowledging her emotional problems until she's pissed everyone off is continuing, good to see it.
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Le sigh.
Lisa, go read I am a Strange Loop by Douglas Hofstader, which shows what pretentious tripe you're spouting (also it's just a damn good book).
Having said that, TanaNari, I have noticed a slight stylistic quibble I have with your work while I've been catching up with it. Speech verbs other than said. Why use them so often? They're only really necessary if a word other than 'said' will actually add something that the dialogue itself doesn't already have. This is a bit futile without examples, so here are a number from 351, where it became most egregious:
Why stated? Said would do just as well and not sound as pretentious. It would be possible that 'stated' might be symbolic of a particular mindset of the perspective character, but Amelia isn't really that arrogant.
Why responded? It's clear she's replying from the structure. Unnecessary word. Use said.
Why answered? Of course Alexandria's answering the question, why else would she be speaking? Less annoying than the two above however.
Why is Lisa 'adding'? It's obvious she's contributing to the conversation. Unnecessary. Also, mildly annoying that Amelia spots the Minervandria link so easily with very little reason given as to what makes her think this, but that's a point for another time.
You used agreed literally a paragraph before for Alexandria's speech. Why not said? Better yet, why put who's talking in - it should be obvious from the tone of their speech and word choice.
It's a question. You have a question mark. No need to throw asked in there as well, unless you want to double triple emphasise its questioningness.
Must admit, am not entirely clear on their physical positioning - is Taylor muttering so Chevalier won't hear? In case Scion's listening in? Perhaps some clarity might make it clear why muttered is necessary. Also, I don't know about you, but I almost never think of anyone's speech as actively muttering in circumstances where I can make their words out clearly. Maybe that's just me...
Duh she informed you. WHY NOT SAID.
Why responded? Etc.
WHY RESPONDED AGAIN?
...at least it isn't responded...
Spoke too soon. Responded is an ugly word - it feels awkward and unwieldy. If that's an effect you're going for, ok, but it seems a little unlike your narrative style to keep the prose so...well, sloppy.
And that's not quite half the chapter alone. I imagine I could pull more examples out of other chapters if I looked hard enough. They're really distracting, and make it very hard to take the excellent narrative and characterisation seriously.
Lisa, go read I am a Strange Loop by Douglas Hofstader, which shows what pretentious tripe you're spouting (also it's just a damn good book).
Having said that, TanaNari, I have noticed a slight stylistic quibble I have with your work while I've been catching up with it. Speech verbs other than said. Why use them so often? They're only really necessary if a word other than 'said' will actually add something that the dialogue itself doesn't already have. This is a bit futile without examples, so here are a number from 351, where it became most egregious:
Why stated? Said would do just as well and not sound as pretentious. It would be possible that 'stated' might be symbolic of a particular mindset of the perspective character, but Amelia isn't really that arrogant.
Why responded? It's clear she's replying from the structure. Unnecessary word. Use said.
Why answered? Of course Alexandria's answering the question, why else would she be speaking? Less annoying than the two above however.
Why is Lisa 'adding'? It's obvious she's contributing to the conversation. Unnecessary. Also, mildly annoying that Amelia spots the Minervandria link so easily with very little reason given as to what makes her think this, but that's a point for another time.
You used agreed literally a paragraph before for Alexandria's speech. Why not said? Better yet, why put who's talking in - it should be obvious from the tone of their speech and word choice.
It's a question. You have a question mark. No need to throw asked in there as well, unless you want to double triple emphasise its questioningness.
Must admit, am not entirely clear on their physical positioning - is Taylor muttering so Chevalier won't hear? In case Scion's listening in? Perhaps some clarity might make it clear why muttered is necessary. Also, I don't know about you, but I almost never think of anyone's speech as actively muttering in circumstances where I can make their words out clearly. Maybe that's just me...
Duh she informed you. WHY NOT SAID.
Why responded? Etc.
WHY RESPONDED AGAIN?
...at least it isn't responded...
Spoke too soon. Responded is an ugly word - it feels awkward and unwieldy. If that's an effect you're going for, ok, but it seems a little unlike your narrative style to keep the prose so...well, sloppy.
And that's not quite half the chapter alone. I imagine I could pull more examples out of other chapters if I looked hard enough. They're really distracting, and make it very hard to take the excellent narrative and characterisation seriously.