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Usually leaves me feeling drained.
Ah yes. Suppress her powers and poke fun at how stupid she is. Just like her parents did. Why not blame her for Taylor's death as well? Go for the whole experience."I'm just thinking we give Lisa a dose, and see how smart she really is on a fair playing field,"
And linked as I'm sure you're aware.
Find out NEXT EPISODE!!!Ah and it also seems Victoria got in the Theo/Zach group and fits well into it, I wonder how her relationship with Zach progressed during the Skip
Zach: Gi- poof- gity. Oww, what the hell, Theo?
Keep in mind they only do it to her because she does the same to them.Honestly if she was a 'real' asexual and not just someone who got screwed over by her powers the whole thing would be really fucking offensive. We get that shit all the time.
She likes fucking with people. Some people fuck back. Yet she keeps fucking with people. If she stopped- and asked nicely- they'd stop as well.
Actually, the only person who ever really called Lisa stupid was Lisa herself; agonizing over how she never saw her brother's death (Reggie? I think it was Reggie; probably short for Reginald and that is the exact sort of name that Lisa's snooty rich parents would name their kid). Nobody every ragged on her about being stupid, mostly they bitched at her being a smug bitch.Ah yes. Suppress her powers and poke fun at how stupid she is. Just like her parents did. Why not blame her for Taylor's death as well? Go for the whole experience.
Why do you hate Lisa, Tananari?
Note, I don't find it the jokes offensive given the circumstances of the character, since she is actually forced into a lifestyle that she doesn't want by outside forces.
Looking forward to it.... No, seriously, you learn more about it after I get that chapter up.
Uh it said in canon that she tried to have Sex and that it went poorly because of her power.but she has never shown signs of being anything else, on any level.
Uh it said in canon that she tried to have Sex and that it went poorly because of her power.
FAAAAAAANON (and IC misconception).So, I'm guessing 'natural trigger' since 2nd gen. capes trigger 'softer' than 1st gen.
Lisa never says, in canon, that she is assexual. That sex is TMI for her and yuck? Yep. Assexual? The word never comes up. (Heck, even Wildbow explained in a WoG why she didn't have sex, it's on SB somewhere.)It still feels the same problem to me. She explicitly identifies as an asexual, not as a straight or lesbian girl wearing a mental chastity belt. She seems to be at least as asexual as Amelia is a lesbian: we don't know how it started, but she has never shown signs of being anything else, on any level.
Lisa never says, in canon, that she is assexual. That sex is TMI for her and yuck? Yep. Assexual? The word never comes up. (Heck, even Wildbow explained in a WoG why she didn't have sex, it's on SB somewhere.)
"I should probably go public with the whole 'asexual' thing, anyway. There's a nicely sized minority of asexuals out there, many of whom are young and in emotional turmoil over their sexuality, or lack thereof, and I'm sure they would appreciate having a high profile hero as 'one of them'. Plus all the other parahumans whose powers make intimacy difficult, one way or another.
Keep in mind they only do it to her because she does the same to them.
Likewise, there is a difference of context between pestering people based on unusual power-induced relationship dynamics, and pestering people in a way that echoes the intolerance against an actual, existing minority with the same kind of ignorant assumptions about how ultimately everyone just needs a good dicking.
By now probably I should put it into my signature, that unless when is explicitly noted otherwise, I'm not trying to do constructive criticism of how TanaNari should write.Teenagers in a story are ignorant and insensitive dicks? My word, that totally breaks my SoD.
Ah yes. Suppress her powers and poke fun at how stupid she is. Just like her parents did. Why not blame her for Taylor's death as well? Go for the whole experience.
Why do you hate Lisa, Tananari?
Actually, the only person who ever really called Lisa stupid was Lisa herself; agonizing over how she never saw her brother's death (Reggie? I think it was Reggi; probably short for Reginald and that is the exact sort of name that Lisa's snooty rich parents would name their kid). Nobody every ragged on her about being stupid, mostly they bitched at her being a smug bitch.
The fact that she is pretty much smug 90% of the time due to her power, and only recently started cutting back doesn't help matters.
If TanaNari himself makes a claim that implies an equivalence between teasing straight people to get laid, and teasing asexuals to get laid, then I'm going to debate that the same way, as a generic opinion on an in-universe character's outside interpretation, not as an expectation that something else should have happened.
There's a pattern here. She's done the same thing to others- a lot- and now it's being turned on her for amusement value. And they'd be doing the same thing regardless of her sexuality.
And all the characters involved understand that. So you should, too. The story has handed this information to you so ham-fistedly that you have only yourself to blame for not figuring it out.
the exact same oversensitive-due-to-ignoring-in-character-context thing the mods on SB did that started the whole shitstorm that resulted in this 'fic moving here? At least the SB mods have the excuse of applying zero tolerance enforcement of actual rules.
See. The issue is you're being stupidly sensitive over a joke that's a joke even in character.
This is just like a couple months ago where I called a friend a dirty Mexican as a joke, he laughed, and some other Latino jackass decided to get threatening and insulted over it.
Nope, not alone on that one Cyclone.
Alterego9 seems to be to be doing to classic mistake of confusing "I am offended by my interpretation of this" with "this is objectively offensive".
At this point I have probably spent more words on how TanaNari and Divabot were wrong for treating this as an opposition to any specific in-universe content rather than "a debate about opinions on culture", than on actual discussion of asexuals' plight.
At this point I have probably spent more words on how TanaNari and Divabot were wrong for treating this as an opposition to any specific facts rather than "a debate about opinions on culture", than on actual discussion of asexuals' plight.
Yes, I'm definitely your opposition here, well done, even as I note I concur with your fundamental points. You win QQ Silver for reading good!
Huh? If anything, clarifying the difference between our objective criticism and cultural context, seems more relevant to the fic, than detailing the actual cultural context. I wouldn't want to write walls of text about life as an asexual, do you think that would be more relevant to the tread?Ah, so your argument is not about this 'fic.
So why is it in this thread?
If I recall correctly, all the members of New Wave who didn't go to New Delhi, plus Danny, congregated to worry as a group. I'd imagine the tradition would continue with this Endbringer.I would have been totally surprised if she didn't trigger in a situation like this, only question is what bud she picked up and who she was nea enough to pingr among the adult New Wavers when it happened