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It certainly felt excessive to me as well.Holy fuck Taylor, bipolar much? Her actions here kind of disgust me.
It's like telling someone you love them, but if they piss you off you'll have them raped.
I don't think I like Taylor anymore.
Fortunately for you, that isn't Taylor.Holy fuck Taylor, bipolar much? Her actions here kind of disgust me.
It's like telling someone you love them, but if they piss you off you'll have them raped.
I don't think I like Taylor anymore.
I don't think there is a power interaction cross over between them. All the pairs we've seen have a thinker aspect, and neither Defiant nor Dragon have thinker powers. Dragon can emulate them by virtue of never sleeping/having a computerized memory etc, but that's pure technology, not spacewhale related.is Dragon and Deviant's relationship caused by pairbonding or is it just a normal relationship.
That's called being professional. What Taylor told Lisa is that yes, she does love her, but now that Lisa has actively gone out her way to cut ties (IRONY) she no longer get special treatment.Holy fuck Taylor, bipolar much? Her actions here kind of disgust me.
It's like telling someone you love them, but if they piss you off you'll have them raped.
I don't think I like Taylor anymore.
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For this Chapter i'm posting Shannon Saunders's "Atlas"She waited, watching, letting me know that the choice was mine and she'd support me either way. But I'd already made my decision, it was no longer my job to protect them. I reached out and took Rebecca's hand, then we moved through the gateway.
would have outed her if they didn't.Hey, Rebecca, I know it's short notice but do you think you can give me a lift?"
I didn't get any of the hostility some people are feeling. Lisa's leaving, but set them up with an acceptable replacement. She doesn't have any plans to stab Pantheon in the back. It seems to me like it was as good of a split as possible.
Nothing, cause Gemini can only do two powers at once. Would be interesting to see if Gemini can get around that little tidbit by using Chevalier to combine two parahumans into one, and then copying the gestalt being...What happens if Gemini combined Taylor, Coil and Dinah's thinker powers?
That last bit is just patently false. Not only because it would take the United States declaring war against Avalon to do it, but because the PRT does not have the resources to go against Pantheon. The closest thing they have to level the field is the very same suits Pantheon made for them. The ones that Taylor can casually override if she needs to.Dramatically worsened for no good reason their relationship with the PRT, a major power that could still potentially take Pantheon down.
Lisa has been thinking about this for a long time. This is hardly a decision she came to after waking up one day. Besides, the worlds at large are not going to be aware that Lisa has manipulated Pantheon. A select few are aware that Lisa created a situation where firing her was the only possible outcome, but you can be sure that the spin machine is going to come out with something that sounds favorable towards all parties. "Pantheon has outgrown the scope of Minerva's abilities, so she has decided to move into the role of a consultant."Presumably that's been kept in check by the fact that they thought they could trust Pantheon, but, hey, Lisa's just proven that she's willing to screw the group she's part of at the drop of a hat, including someone everyone thought was her best friend. How can *anyone* trust that anything she's learned is going to remain secret now.
Nothing we've seen suggests that Lisa is going to sabotage the organization in the long run. She knows that Scion is the goal. Pantheon provides one of the only potential ways of fighting him.And if they don't go through everything she's ever touched with a fine tooth comb, then they're being overly generous and naive. Like I said in a previous post, I don't exactly think Lisa's leaving Pantheon to do nothing, so finding out if she's siphoned off funds and/or left any organisational timebombs is something they'd better do *now* rather than later. What a pity that she chose to do this *now* when they can't afford to spend the time worrying about this kind of thing instead of the next Endbringer attack. I don't think *that's* a coincidence, either.
If only that point has been brought up in the chapter...I don't hate Lisa - I kind of actually like her - but Pantheon really should view her as neutral to them. At *best*. And I can definitely see the point of view of anyone in or allied to Pantheon who would view in a less than favourable light.
Good, she's alert to the possibility that I won't necessarily be working in their best interests in the future. That's something they need to be aware of.
That last bit is just patently false. Not only because it would take the United States declaring war against Avalon to do it, but because the PRT does not have the resources to go against Pantheon. The closest thing they have to level the field is the very same suits Pantheon made for them. The ones that Taylor can casually override if she needs to.
Lisa has been thinking about this for a long time. This is hardly a decision she came to after waking up one day. Besides, the worlds at large are not going to be aware that Lisa has manipulated Pantheon. A select few are aware that Lisa created a situation where firing her was the only possible outcome, but you can be sure that the spin machine is going to come out with something that sounds favorable towards all parties. "Pantheon has outgrown the scope of Minerva's abilities, so she has decided to move into the role of a consultant."
Nothing we've seen suggests that Lisa is going to sabotage the organization in the long run. She knows that Scion is the goal. Pantheon provides one of the only potential ways of fighting him.
As to the emboldened: Of course it isn't a coincidence. She set it up so they'd have to fire her. No extra time to look over things, or think up a way to talk her around. Making sure they have more important things to worry about is part of that.
Mainly academic stuff. Mid-future; not yet directly applicable, but also not pie-in-the-sky. Current state of the technology is about where autonomous vehicles were around the time of the DARPA Grand Challenge. So generally fun stuff.Do tell - which variety? (Real AI work, or hypothetical AI work?)
You're assuming that a few minor disagreements between the PRT and Pantheon is enough to cause sufficient fall-out between the groups. It's...really not. Especially not for an up-and-coming international power. It's politics, plain and simple. Pantheon is the new hot shit, the occasional moment when they run roughshod over the PRT is the growing pains of a world power.Possibly not by direct action. But just getting to the point of conflict with the PRT/US would stress the loyalties of a lot of Pantheon's capes, quite possibly to the point of breaking, quite possibly to the point of destroying Pantheon. Sure Riley would stick with whatever Amelia decided to do, and Taylor too, probably. But the rest? Uncertain, very uncertain if it came down to it.
And, again, as far as we (and the rest of Pantheon) know, this deterioration of the relationship between the PRT and Pantheon, barring Lisa's internal psychodrama. (Lisa almost undoubtedly *did* have another motive for this, but as she took pains to remind everyone, her motives in this as in everything else she's done since she decided to leave Pantheon cannot be assumed to be in Pantheon's best interests.
We see public governmental and company fuck ups all the time. Very rarely do we ever find out the full extent of a fuckup. The upper echelon of Pantheon will know what happened. The lower echelon will get something along the lines of "Lisa fucked up, and Dragon can do a better job. We let Lisa go." The public will get a 'different visions of the future' and 'parted on good terms' and 'look forward to working together in the future' and 'we wish Minerva the best in whatever she chooses to do' and 'Minerva is still dedicated to seeing the last of the Endbringers.'You are being a *lot* more generous with this than I am. Yes, Lisa has undoubtedly spent a long time thinking this over. She still chose to fuck Pantheon over for her own emotional needs rather than deal with this professionally. And, again, as she reminded everyone, she can no longer be counted on to act in Pantheon's best interests, and they (and we) can't know how far back she decided that would be the case. And if you think that this shitstorm is going to remain private- well, just remember that her plan was to make a public mess so they'd be forced to fire her. Maybe no one in the room will say what happened. Maybe no one they tell will tell anyone else. But Crystal's team are going to want to know why the hell they got dropped into a situation in which at least one of them died and Lisa's pretty much going to have to be the scapegoat for that, and that's far too many people at that point. Not to mention all the other thinkers other powers have aimed at Pantheon.
If at least the bare bones of what happened doesn't get out, then it sure as hell isn't because Lisa tried too hard to stop that from happening. That was pretty much her plan, after all.
It costs her a resource. Informing them about the anti-Doormaker defenses not working means that she loses an easy means of gathering information, as well as emergency transport if she ever needs it. Besides, Pantheon has an entire other planet. If they don't have backups for their backups, they're kind of asking for it.Nothing we've seen says that she cares overly much about what happens to Pantheon from now on. I mean, telling them that their dimensional defences aren't as strong as they think costs her literally nothing, but she's not going to do it anyway. And, presumably, doesn't care how many lives are lost when and if Cauldron or someone else takes advantage of those weaknesses. Note that - depending on whether Pantheon has offsite backups of personality data - this could easily mean perma-death for members of Pantheon.
And Lisa demonstrably gives not one shit.
It's not like they have to take anyone off the Endbringer duties to look into past decisions? The tinkers continue tinkering, the Zerg will be grown. Lisa being there or not being there has no impact on the prep.And, y'know, also being the time when they can least afford any distribution to the workflow in the prep for the next Endbringer. Yes, it's more convenient for Lisa. Such a pity that said convenience could easily cost lives.
We don't actually know it that end game situation is even still in play. We've been told that the Taylia link has been messing with every precog, including Dinah, and now we're throwing another one at them. So you could be right.Edit - Scratch that. Presumably not, because Amelia and Taylor will end up on different sides. But still, the correlation is intriguing.
She already has. Repeatedly.I didn't get any of the hostility some people are feeling. Lisa's leaving, but set them up with an acceptable replacement. She doesn't have any plans to stab Pantheon in the back. It seems to me like it was as good of a split as possible.
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I'm having trouble thinking of what Khepri is talking about. Wasn't it Behemoth and Simurgh? Or am I thinking of a different incident?Khepri pressed on. "And you knew that going in. But more important to you than your life, I think, there was your reputation. You arranged to leak your breakdown after Leviathan to the press. You guaranteed your name would be synonymous with corruption and insanity. Treason, even."
I suspect we won't find out until it becomes relevant in-story (e.g., if Alexandria survives an assassination attempt that Lisa doesn't).Sooo...Awkward question, but what's going to be done with the setup for Lisa's back-up that Pantheon still has?
Much fanservice. No appreciation. I gave my readers everything they've been anticipating for weeks... but I ruined it at the same time.I can't Believe nobody noticed that Lisa and Alexandria held Hands....