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Coronavirus COVID-19 Pandemic

Pez said:
Do you have a source? I'm more familiar with what's going on in Australia, but I haven't seen anything about any form insurrection in NZ, just ongoing peaceful protests.
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'Peaceful' is a joke.

It started with threats of hanging; they erased the swastika that was drawn on the cenotaph in the first few days but left that one up for some time. Their Zello and Telegram accounts are absolutely stuffed with psychopaths gleefully fantasising about executing MPs. 'Protestors' are going around local businesses, flaunting requirements for vaccine passes or masks and barging their way in through intimidation; as well as interfering with the delivery of legitimate petitions to the Government.

In addition to filming himself calling on the NZ military to overthrow the Govt., Kevyn Alp of Counterspin Media also prepared a plan of action to storm the parliament ahead of time.

The imagery surrounding the organisation of other protests in the country looks like this.

I live here. This is in my backyard. We have a home-grown fascist movement being emboldened by foreign interference that is trying to repeal the very protections that have seen our country remain relatively unaffected by the pandemic.

This is fucking terrifying.
 
Pez said:
Project Veritas has some interest video of an FDA Executive talking about how President Biden wants to make the shot an annual requirement as well as how the FDA is paid nearly a billion dollars a year from big pharma.
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Also, for this alone I'm kicking you out of the thread, goodbye.

I refer back to my last warning as justification.
TotalAbsolutism said:
Based on prior behaviour, I am upgrading ATP's threadban to one month. Let it be said for the final time:

No. Conspiracy. Theories.

Random fearmongering such as he posted with zero substantiation will be taken as such. The next offender will be permanently removed from this thread. There will be no more warnings.
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TotalAbsolutism said:
I live here. This is in my backyard. We have a home-grown fascist movement being emboldened by foreign interference that is trying to repeal the very protections that have seen our country remain relatively unaffected by the pandemic.

This is fucking terrifying.
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You have to hold your media accountable.

America didn't and just look at us.

Don't end up like us.
 
evildice said:
You have to hold your media accountable.

America didn't and just look at us.

Don't end up like us.
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Here's the thing, a lot of people think this video is true:

When the reality is far worse... as it only makes problems at the end. It isn't "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master.", it's "Beware he who would allow you access to infinite information, for in his heart dreams himself your master.". Orwell is... frighteningly wrong when it comes to how one can control the masses, I'm afraid, although some of his predictions have come true.

I've been reading Transhuman Space's Toxic Memes supplement and... let's just say The Infographic Show isn't kidding when they said that the current situation is thanks in part by Transhuman Space-esque memetic ordinance...
 
Aaron Fox said:
When the reality is far worse... as it only makes problems at the end. It isn't "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master.", it's "Beware he who would allow you access to infinite information, for in his heart dreams himself your master.". Orwell is... frighteningly wrong when it comes to how one can control the masses, I'm afraid, although some of his predictions have come true.
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In cryptography, there are generally two ways to deny your attackers information:

- Encryption; disguising your signal as something else

- Chaffing; mixing up your signal with false or random or unrelated information so the attacker can't even start to decrypt it

VPNs work by doing both: you disguise what you're sending to the server, and then hide your request in the mass of outbound requests that the server makes.

Information is similar. Flooding someone with bad information is quite similar to chaffing, and is one way to deny the target access to good information. It's probably why you see disinformation sources change their topic so frequently.

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evildice said:
In cryptography, there are generally two ways to deny your attackers information:

- Encryption; disguising your signal as something else

- Chaffing; mixing up your signal with false or random or unrelated information so the attacker can't even start to decrypt it

VPNs work by doing both: you disguise what you're sending to the server, and then hide your request in the mass of outbound requests that the server makes.

Information is similar. Flooding someone with bad information is quite similar to chaffing, and is one way to deny the target access to good information. It's probably why you see disinformation sources change their topic so frequently.
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First, we've been getting VPN-defeating software for a while now, to the point that VPN tricks don't work on some forums now.

Second, there is the sad reality that we're now living in a world of memetic warfare, which adds a new 'fun' (in the most sarcastic way possible) to information warfare. I mean, what happens when you are facing misinformation that is specifically designed to propagate?
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... to be honest, we're in for some pretty damn rough times.
 
So I go on youtube and look things up and I have to say this.

I am utterly pissed off people think Covid is just a conspiracy or whatever used for the government to control people, ignoring all the deaths it caused, and go on about freedom and shit like that. Just because suddenly the media is filled with invasion news instead of covid pandemic news. Like that's the holy grail of evidence that it's just a hoax and shit like that.

Tell that to the people who had family that died to covid you fucking jack offs.
 
OverReactionGuy said:
God damn it humanity.
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Why do you think I believe that the 'pessimist' political philosophers are closer to the money than the 'optimistic' philosophers? Because people keep showing up and proving them right...

... I mean we had a test called DARK WINTER and what it revealed made the US overhaul its pandemic response structure... and the first stress test is a failure.
 
If mankind were THAT bad it'd have collapsed on itself long long ago. Vocal minorities and all of that, but that's no excuse for taking the edgy AAAAYYYYY WE'RE ALL SCUMMM! view about the world.
 
OverMaster said:
If mankind were THAT bad it'd have collapsed on itself long long ago. Vocal minorities and all of that, but that's no excuse for taking the edgy AAAAYYYYY WE'RE ALL SCUMMM! view about the world.
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It's not a matter of being "bad". It's about being scared and latching onto anything that promises surcease of fear. That's how people get swept up into things and keep denying reality even as reality is killing them.
 
MadGreenSon said:
It's not a matter of being "bad". It's about being scared and latching onto anything that promises surcease of fear. That's how people get swept up into things and keep denying reality even as reality is killing them.
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I mean, (use like for this), a show of hands for who thought that this entire situation is too fantastical to be real before the pandemic happened?

That, basically, we prove the zombie movies right?

I did... and that was before I looked up DARK WINTER...
 
Aaron Fox said:
I mean, (use like for this), a show of hands for who thought that this entire situation is too fantastical to be real before the pandemic happened?

That, basically, we prove the zombie movies right?

I did... and that was before I looked up DARK WINTER...
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There will always be people who are desperate to disbelieve things that scare them.
 
Aaron Fox said:
I mean, (use like for this), a show of hands for who thought that this entire situation is too fantastical to be real before the pandemic happened?

That, basically, we prove the zombie movies right?

I did... and that was before I looked up DARK WINTER...
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It happened with Spanish Flu, it probably happened with the earlier plagues. People will always be people.
 
Aaron Fox said:
I mean, (use like for this), a show of hands for who thought that this entire situation is too fantastical to be real before the pandemic happened?

That, basically, we prove the zombie movies right?

I did... and that was before I looked up DARK WINTER...
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There are historical precedents for viral outbreaks like covid, but there is no precedent whatsoever for something like a zombie plague. There's no comparison. Even as a meme this one was never really funny and has long outlived any welcome it ever may have had.
 
OverMaster said:
There are historical precedents for viral outbreaks like covid, but there is no precedent whatsoever for something like a zombie plague. There's no comparison. Even as a meme this one was never really funny and has long outlived any welcome it ever may have had.
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First, the majority of similar pandemics are literally out of living memory, and some are just within living memory.

Second, we all laughed at the idea that zombie movies are realistic, and yet here we are... as they get proven right in a way.
 
No, at most a single aspect of zombie fiction may have proved to bear parallels to actual events starring a relative minority of very vocal people. Most people around the planet is not a screaming virus denier and the planet hasn't obviously collapsed yet the way it would in a Hollywood zombie apocalypse, despite having over two years to do so now.

Saying "we are living a zombie apocalypse situation" is an exaggeration from almost any angle because overall, while there have been lots of deaths across the planet, the fabric of society as a whole has endured remarkably so far. If one thinks this is as bad as a situation as it could get, then that person would surely collapse under an actual world war or something like that.

This is not to say the situation isn't serious but some perspective is necessary. Then again, maybe coming from a Third World country where often we can have several blackouts a week and lack running water for days have taught me to have a laxer perspective on what "really fucked up situation where the system and culture breaks down" actually means, when put next to people who have lived their whole life in the First World. Maybe for some of those the disruption of the status quo is a harsher blow perception-wise.

But overall, most people aren't vehement reality deniers who act like zombie fodder in a movie and they aren't about to bring the world down on your head if they can help it. Well, not them at least. I'm not answering for the few ones with nuke launching privileges but that's another matter altogether. Generally speaking, most people around the world will be fine with taking a shot and saying the virus is real when they or several relatives-friends have had it themselves.

I identify as a cynicist myself, but for God's sake.
 
So guess who got the fucking Vid. Figues this would happen right at what im hoping is the tail end of this whole mess.
 
Zyr0TruthExists said:
Hope you end up okay mate, drink plenty of water, get as much rest as you can, if symptoms continue to get worse don't hesitate to get help.
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So far it's mostly like a shitty cold so that's something, I got my folks looking after me so getting help won't be too much of a issue.
Main worry is getting them infected too then we're all screwed.
 
The-Lewd-Dude said:
So far it's mostly like a shitty cold so that's something, I got my folks looking after me so getting help won't be too much of a issue.
Main worry is getting them infected too then we're all screwed.
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Don't worry, if they don't get it from you the fucking death cult is going to make sure they get it from somewhere else.
 
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