Cu-nosuba: God’s Blessing on This Lancer’s Holy Grail War!

[Davos]

Nonono, Gaia is the consciousness of the planet and Alaya is the collective unconsiousness of mankind that acts as his guardian via it's CG

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ah, ok. thanks!

 

[Frakir's brother]

No, I'm kinda sick of people using Sakura as a throwaway enemy to just murder in cold blood and then forget about. Whilst Rin never gets that kind of treatment.

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Dude, I like her too but you wanna know why? Because she canonically can become a threat on that level if her emotions get fucked with enough. Rin? The worst we see from her is being mildly callous

 

[alextheconqueror]

Well, you seem to be demonstrating otherwise....

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Cherry, you forget something very important, this is a fucking comedy, it doesn't need to make sense all the time it just needs to be funny

 

[Cherry Lover]

Dude, I like her too but you wanna know why? Because she canonically can become a threat on that level if her emotions get fucked with enough. Rin? The worst we see from her is being mildly callous

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Eh, Rin can absolutely end up as an enemy if you push her the right way. Sure, she's not dangerous on the level Sakura is, but I've seen plenty of people just casually killing Sakura off in a way they never do for Rin. And Medusa not caring that Sakura got killed is just completely ludicrous, canonically she'll protect Sakura to the end, no matter what she's doing.

Cherry, you forget something very important, this is a fucking comedy, it doesn't need to make sense all the time it just needs to be funny

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Yes, because murdering an abuse victim is so funny, right? If it was actually a comedic scene, you might have a point, but I don't see anything actually comedic about any of what happened there.

 

[Frakir's brother]

Eh, Rin can absolutely end up as an enemy if you push her the right way. Sure, she's not dangerous on the level Sakura is, but I've seen plenty of people just casually killing Sakura off in a way they never do for Rin. And Medusa not caring that Sakura got killed is just completely ludicrous, canonically she'll protect Sakura to the end, no matter what she's doing.

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The Medusa thing is bad characterization yes. As for your point on Rin, that's the thing Rin can be an enemy but she's not a threat to the innocent in the same way Sakura canonically can be. HF turns lots of people into Teemu Kiritsugu. People can forgive attempted murder on the protagonist, but mass death on the scale of a natural disaster?

 

[alextheconqueror]

Yes, because murdering an abuse victim is so funny, right? If it was actually a comedic scene, you might have a point, but I don't see anything actually comedic about any of what happened there.

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Did we read the same scene? Everything in the chapter was comedy coded, since the dread of Cu being the one to do the job instead of Scathatch seeing how much he jobbed, Kazuma using steal without expecting that Shishou was going commando, Gudako being a dealer of kinky clothes and "Becoming the waifu", Eris peeking into Kazuma and Rin private time without knowing and many more, even the last part had jokes and avoiding to have serious moments, even the reveal of Dark Sakura was a joke

 

[Cherry Lover]

The Medusa thing is bad characterization yes. As for your point on Rin, that's the thing Rin can be an enemy but she's not a threat to the innocent in the same way Sakura canonically can be. HF turns lots of people into Teemu Kiritsugu. People can forgive attempted murder on the protagonist, but mass death on the scale of a natural disaster?

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Yeah, I know, a lot of the fanbase are edgelords who want to murder an innocent abuse victim because of things she had no control over, and will intentionally make those things happen to give themselves an excuse to murder her in their fic.

Did we read the same scene? Everything in the chapter was comedy coded, since the dread of Cu being the one to do the job instead of Scathatch seeing how much he jobbed, Kazuma using steal without expecting that Shishou was going commando, Gudako being a dealer of kinky clothes and "Becoming the waifu", Eris peeking into Kazuma and Rin private time without knowing and many more, even the last part had jokes and avoiding to have serious moments, even the reveal of Dark Sakura was a joke

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Yeah, not saying there wasn't comedy in the chapter, but murdering Sakura is definitely not comedic. Not that I'm ever going to find something like that funny, because the "joke" is entirely at Sakura's expense, whilst everyone else gets to carry on as normal.

 

[Frakir's brother]

Yeah, I know, a lot of the fanbase are edgelords who want to murder an innocent abuse victim because of things she had no control over, and will intentionally make those things happen to give themselves an excuse to murder her in their fic.

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You see, that's where I disagree. I'm not gonna claim Sakura deserves it, but she's not at a level I would call "innocent abuse victim". At some point lashing out and killing people removes the innocent status, even even though she shouldn't be killed because of it. Assuming that non-lethal options exist of course.

 

[Cherry Lover]

You see, that's where I disagree. I'm not gonna claim Sakura deserves it, but she's not at a level I would call "innocent abuse victim". At some point lashing out and killing people removes the innocent status, even even though she shouldn't be killed because of it. Assuming that non-lethal options exist of course.

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Sakura isn't "lashing out", though, she's got no conscious control of anything that's happening, nor is it being done out of malice, but rather an instinctual need for magical energy. The only time you can even remotely claim she's "lashing out" is as Dark Sakura, and Dark Sakura doesn't actually kill anyone besides Shinji, Zouken and Kotomine. Not to mention that she's very obviously insane by that point.

 

[alextheconqueror]

Yeah, not saying there wasn't comedy in the chapter, but murdering Sakura is definitely not comedic. Not that I'm ever going to find something like that funny, because the "joke" is entirely at Sakura's expense, whilst everyone else gets to carry on as normal.

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I think it's because you see everything related to Sakura in a too serious lense, wich is fair but is no reason to make a fuss

 

[Cherry Lover]

I think it's because you see everything related to Sakura in a too serious lense, wich is fair but is no reason to make a fuss

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Eh, at best Sakura is just there to provide an excuse for comedy and maybe to act as the butt of the joke (and a very nasty joke at that) on occasion. Obviously, yes, I don't find it funny because it's Sakura, but I also find the whole plot aspect very distasteful, especially given that no-one seems to care (which isn't even played for comedy, it's just not mentioned).

 

[Davos]

Eh, at best Sakura is just there to provide an excuse for comedy and maybe to act as the butt of the joke (and a very nasty joke at that) on occasion. Obviously, yes, I don't find it funny because it's Sakura, but I also find the whole plot aspect very distasteful, especially given that no-one seems to care (which isn't even played for comedy, it's just not mentioned).

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Her death wasn't meant to be comedic or apathetic...I admit I am a little tunnel visioned on endings so this, along with Medusa's part, was underdeveloped

 

[Cherry Lover]

Her death wasn't meant to be comedic or apathetic...I admit I am a little tunnel visioned on endings so this, along with Medusa's part, was underdeveloped

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Well, it definitely came across as apathetic to me, at least.

 

[alextheconqueror]

Eh, at best Sakura is just there to provide an excuse for comedy and maybe to act as the butt of the joke (and a very nasty joke at that) on occasion. Obviously, yes, I don't find it funny because it's Sakura, but I also find the whole plot aspect very distasteful, especially given that no-one seems to care (which isn't even played for comedy, it's just not mentioned).

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Her death wasn't meant to be comedic or apathetic...I admit I am a little tunnel visioned on endings so this, along with Medusa's part, was underdeveloped

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Don't worry about it, this shit happens. like more usually than you can expect

 

[Sliverhero]

Ring is going to fit right with kazuma party. Now the main question how the rest will feel about her joining them.
Will also be funny if she accidentally seduced the party to join with her fun times with kazuma

 

[Davos]

Don't worry about it, this shit happens. like more usually than you can expect

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THank you for the kind words.

Ring is going to fit right with kazuma party. Now the main question how the rest will feel about her joining them.
Will also be funny if she accidentally seduced the party to join with her fun times with kazuma

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That question will be covered in two of the endings.