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Esquestria: The House of the Sun - A pony cultist experience

Voting is open for the next 1 day
Maybe? It could work as a Mansus Expedition that we need to map out properly.

Even if I'm 90% sure we won't be able to do anything unless we are very lucky.
oh, I have basically zero hope of us getting to the "Moon" and beyond before All In. MAYBE there's a small chance of Tower only at best, as it's a single mansus point, we get one per turn for free, and we ARE About to get the SH Sacraments anyway. Even then that's mostly if we get one more turn by delaying Celestia. If not, i doubt it.

The path to the Moon only exists temporarily. So unless we manage to visit in the right moment I don't see much happening besides the start of this:

The Tower is still there though. I imagine we'd first explore the Tower to know how to get through it quickly once the time comes?
 

you basically need 1 level worth of books for lore level 1, 4 levels for lvl 2, 9 levels for lvl 3... and so on.

That's explicitly not how it works.

But in their case, all books, regardless of level, are helpful, in the following way:
A book will give the amount of scraps that is equal to "(THE BOOK'S LEVEL / THE LEVEL THEY ARE AIMING FOR)". And books will "rearrange" their bonuses in order to always give out the greatest bonus possible.

A level one book gives zero scraps for somepony aiming for level three because a book will only give "the amount of scraps that is equal to", and a level one scrap is not equal to a level two scrap.

the rule of thumb is: "I need one level one book for my cult to reach level one, then I need two level two books for the cult to reach level two, then..." ad eternum.
 
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A level one book gives zero scraps for somepony aiming for level two because a book will only give "the amount of scraps that is equal to", and a level one scrap is not equal to a level two scrap.
And this matter to Celestia who has been gathering books and artifacts for over a thousand year. On top of accumulated knowledge over those thousand years, she just needs to put together. Velvet would be Rank 7 in all Lores if she had half of what Celestia keeps in just the public librarys.
 
A level one book gives zero scraps for somepony aiming for level two because a book will only give "the amount of scraps that is equal to", and a level one scrap is not equal to a level two scrap.
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No... Just no. The scraps progress the Library, not the followers. The more scraps the more the Library is worth for research, so our followers can reach higher levels that way.

Using the level 2 example:

A level 1 scrap contributes an amount of scraps equal to 1/2(that is to say 0.5 scraps) to level 2.
We need to reach the same amount of scraps it would take to get Velvet to level 2(that is to say 2 Scraps).

If we already have 0.5 Scraps we need 2-0.5=1.5 Scraps. Let's pretend That we will achieve it by studying more books that together are worth 1.5 Scraps(or more).

That could mean 1 Level 2 book, because 2/2=1, and another Level 1 book(1/2=0.5). So 1+0.5= 1.5, the exact amount we need.
Or we could use a Level 4 book, since 4/2=2, we would exceed the requirement and reach Level 2 on the Lore in question.

I don't really explain math in english so if it is not understandable my bad.
 
And this matter to Celestia who has been gathering books and artifacts for over a thousand year. On top of accumulated knowledge over those thousand years, she just needs to put together. Velvet would be Rank 7 in all Lores if she had half of what Celestia keeps in just the public librarys.

Shugs, maybe?

Velvet was the only member of the cult that could read books and get lore from them though so something funky has been going on.
 
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No... Just no. The scraps progress the Library, not the followers. The more scraps the more the Library is worth for research, so our followers can reach higher levels that way.

Using the level 2 example:

A level 1 scrap contributes an amount of scraps equal to 1/2(that is to say 0.5 scraps) to level 2.
We need to reach the same amount of scraps it would take to get Velvet to level 2(that is to say 2 Scraps).

If we already have 0.5 Scraps we need 2-0.5=1.5 Scraps. Let's pretend That we will achieve it by studying more books that together are worth 1.5 Scraps(or more).

That could mean 1 Level 2 book, because 2/2=1, and another Level 1 book(1/2=0.5). So 1+0.5= 1.5, the exact amount we need.
Or we could use a Level 4 book, since 4/2=2, we would exceed the requirement and reach Level 2 on the Lore in question.

I don't really explain math in english so if it is not understandable my bad.
Or, as I put it before, you need X^2 levels worth of books to reach level X.

So. For example, from level 2 to 3 you need 3^2 = 9 levels of books, which could be 3 lvl3 books, or 9 lvl1 books, or anything in between.

That's just ONE example of how Velvet's rules are not applied universally to everyone. My point stays the same, we can't assume Celestia will share our problems in levelling up lantern. She's not Velvet, she's not (a normal) pony, she's an (half of an) outsider with a budget of YES, servant actions of YES, and an artifact of not fully revealed powers
 
Hasn't Bird already confirmed she gets one level of Lantern per Turn (assuming Selene doesn't slow her down) up until she matches us at 5 Lantern on Turn 24?
 
Hasn't Bird already confirmed she gets one level of Lantern per Turn (assuming Selene doesn't slow her down) up until she matches us at 5 Lantern on Turn 24?
Not explicitly, from what I remember, but all signs do point towards this being how things work.

Soothe the Sun also heavily implied this.
 
Hasn't Bird already confirmed she gets one level of Lantern per Turn (assuming Selene doesn't slow her down) up until she matches us at 5 Lantern on Turn 24?

Nope, it's semi implied that that's how it works for up to level 4 though.

It's unknown for Sacraments and Mastery as that's a lot harder to reach and has its own rules.
 
Nope, it's semi implied that that's how it works for up to level 4 though.

It's unknown for Sacraments and Mastery as that's a lot harder to reach and has its own rules.
Why would that be an issue Celestai has 8-10 actions a turn and does nothing but raise her lore levels.
 
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@OurLadyOfWires if at least one Name Consults do they get to bring our artifacts to the expedition? Because considering that DoA+Mareinette is already a very powerful team we might have Cherenkolt Consult instead of be an artifact if he can't be brought to Choked City otherwise.
Short answer is "yes."

Long answer is that if at least one character is set to go on an expedition, we will have an "expedition planning" vote and I will explain things there.

I mean, for narrative reasons I can't let the same artifact be used on two separate Long expeditions, so on and so forth. But that will be the moment for us to discuss and compromise on the mechanical decisions of the expeditions versus the narrative constraints involves.

Oh that reminds me, do our personal guards get Edge levels? @OurLadyOfWires

Wanted to do some math on how many rounds they last against Biedde :V
They do, but not all of them.

The Lores of a cult or institution show the "maximum" lore they can reach. But I wouldn't have everypony be Maximum Edge anymore than every investigator would have Maximum Lantern.

So your best constables (on Red Team) all have maximum edge, yes, but I might make it more of a "spread" when it comes to your bodyguards.

Still, the rule of thumb remains that the more lore levels the better.

Shedding Heat Like Skin
Silver makes for a great heat conductor :V

Thank you for sharing this!

@OurLadyOfWires Can you clarify this debate again and answer if only level one books are required to reach level 5 in lore via the secret library?
See:
EDGE: Level 2 ( [Smiles] + [1/2 + 3/2] )
EDGE
-Level 1 - "Institutional Knowledge: Monster Hunting Techniques. A short manual, made out of the collective knowledge of the Lunar Bureau on how to hunt monsters, formally put together after the Bureau's first successful hunt."
-Level 3 - "A posthumous, and rather contentious, biography of the legendary pegasus called Flash Magnus".



I will go write what comes next. It will be short and quick, but I prefer to get the ball rolling rather than write something long and flowery (that will cover... very minor stuff) that would only be posted tomorrow or later.

Hope you are all doing well.

VOTE CLOSED.
Adhoc vote count started by OurLadyOfWires on Jan 9, 2026 at 10:51 PM, finished with 309 posts and 29 votes.
 
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Hasn't Bird already confirmed she gets one level of Lantern per Turn (assuming Selene doesn't slow her down) up until she matches us at 5 Lantern on Turn 24?
he never explicitly said she gets 1 level per turn. That's just the worst case scenario.

We don't know how LIKELY of a scenario it is, but SO FAR she's gained one level per turn up to lvl 3, and while it's a reasonable assumption that she'll find it harder to gain lvl 4-5-6, we can't be sure, as we don't know her rules.

Maybe she just gains a level per turn.

Maybe she rolls to gain a semi-random amount of lore scraps per turn, and it just so happens that she got enough for a level each turn so far.

Maybe she has to roll against a fixed low DC, or a slowly rising DC, to get a level, and she was just lucky so far.

Maybe she'll have special problems with the Sacrament... or maybe she'll have a simple one. Something like Velvet's, in which she just has to order her guards to bring her a prisoner to "read-to-death".

WE

DON'T

KNOW.


but we can't afford to assume she'll have troubles.

Why would that be an issue Celestai has 8-10 actions a turn and does nothing but raise her lore levels.
that's even assuming she HAS actions at all. We don't know how exactly Bird models the other factions/important characters, but I doubt he goes "ok, Celestia has 8 APs, let me carefully pick each one of them":

He might just go "she tries to do this thing, roll to see if she succeeds"

technically that doesn't answer Shaper's question. You're showing a lvl 1 book and a lvl 3 book working to reach lvl 2 edge, but that works for both Velvet and Library.



The simplest version of the question is: @OurLadyOfWires Could we in theory reach lvl 4 in the library just by studying lots of lvl 1 books? Yes or No, impossible to misunderstand.
 
I mean, for narrative reasons I can't let the same artifact be used on two separate Long expeditions, so on and so forth. But that will be the moment for us to discuss and compromise on the mechanical decisions of the expeditions versus the narrative constraints involves.

Well that makes sense. I had been hoping we'd have the option to squeeze cherry coat into two long expeditions as long as he was used nowhere else that turn, but it totally makes sense we couldn't quite get that. I think that puts me in favor of just having him Consult instead of being an artifact. I'm curious to hear his input on the Husk.

Putting Mareinette and DoA on the same expedition kind of wastes Mareinette's general bonus when she could be giving +10 more than Selene's to the Bureau mission, but Mareinette covers DoA's weakness so well and her Lores fit our best guesses for what the Quarry might offer. Smiles just isn't super useful at the Quarry other than covering the Antisocial weakness and +3 Heart. +6 Forge levels frankly sounds kind of important to both expeditions, but Selene needs some kind of extra oomf to cover the fact she's got only +30 general bonus. We could have Mareinette+Selene on Bureau expedition and DoA+Artifact Cherenkolt+Smiles on the other? If we do that we might want to have the Bureau do the Quarry due to Selene's Winter levels and Mareinette's Heart levels.

The simplest version of the question is: @OurLadyOfWires Could we in theory reach lvl 4 in the library just by studying lots of lvl 1 books? Yes or No, impossible to misunderstand.

Sigh. The exact question was discussed and answered when the Bright Library was first introduced on SV. You were there at the time. This isn't complicated. The answer is yes the library can level by studying lots of level 1 books. The fact that it's prohibitively expensive is its own punishment.

@OurLadyOfWires I'm sorry I failed to specify what I was thinking of when I asked my question. I meant to include asking "If we have a Name consult and then bring artifacts to the expedition, does that mean that Constables can wield artifacts? Like, say, the winter artifacts that dont stack with Selene's inherent Winter?
 
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Silver makes for a great heat conductor :V
:V

I will say that for all its dispiriting to not know what the Sacrament does, it is absolutely classic Daughter of Axes behaviour to leave it like that. Gotta respect her game.

(And @OurLadyOfWires could it be In Which Heat is Shed like Skin, rather than Shedded?)
 
Putting Mareinette and DoA on the same expedition kind of wastes Mareinette's general bonus when she could be giving +10 more than Selene's to the Bureau mission, but Mareinette covers DoA's weakness so well and her Lores fit our best guesses for what the Quarry might offer. Smiles just isn't super useful at the Quarry other than covering the Antisocial weakness and +3 Heart. +6 Forge levels frankly sounds kind of important to both expeditions, but Selene needs some kind of extra oomf to cover the fact she's got only +30 general bonus. We could have Mareinette+Selene on Bureau expedition and DoA+Artifact Cherenkolt+Smiles on the other? If we do that we might want to have the Bureau do the Quarry due to Selene's Winter levels and Mareinette's Heart levels.
I don't quite have enough brain power to figure out what the best combinations should be, but I do think we definitely want both Heart and Winter on the Quarry one way or another (whether that means artifact or Selene) as the two anti-curse Lores and. Well. I mean the description outright says its thrice-cursed, so I feel like it can't hurt to be prepared for some curses :V

Edit: Maybe Mareinette might even have some insight on the husk? It does have some Grail in it, iirc.
 
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Sigh. The exact question was discussed and answered when the Bright Library was first introduced on SV. You were there at the time. This isn't complicated. The answer is yes the library can level by studying lots of level 1 books. The fact that it's prohibitively expensive is its own punishment.
I know that.

It's Shaper that doesn't believe me.

Well that makes sense. I had been hoping we'd have the option to squeeze cherry coat into two long expeditions as long as he was used nowhere else that turn, but it totally makes sense we couldn't quite get that. I think that puts me in favor of just having him Consult instead of being an artifact. I'm curious to hear his input on the Husk.
I think it should in theory be possible IF we finish the first expedition quickly enough... but then again, it's extremely unlikely for us to have one start on day 1 and the other on day 15 of the month. There's a need to spend a few days preparing after all.
 
Actually an important thought. @OurLadyOfWires if the Bureau ends up going overtime on an expedition, do we lose out on the next turn AP of any consultants involved? E.g. if we send the Bureau w/ Selene and Mareinette to the Quarry on T23 and they take, say, 19 days instead of 15, do we then lose Selene and Mareinette AP on T24?
 
Turn 22 - Closing / In between turns New
Tally
[X] The Royal Apartment has become distressingly hot, to the point that even Princess Celestia's guards (ceremonial as they were) have been prohibited from approaching it. This has become the most crucial issue on Princess Cadance's agenda.
[X] Plan: IM FROM PONYVILLE AND I SAY KILL EM ALL
-[X] (AotL) Edge
-[X] (Knock) Explore the Ashen Wastes
-[X] (Social) Fleeting Opportunity: Soft Sweeps
-[X] Study (2x), by priority: Moth 5 book, Lantern 4 artifact, Winter 4 artifact, Manehatten book
-[X] Join the Assault on Tall Tale
-[X] Sacrament: Challenge Biedde


[X] Plan: Prisoner Chomping
-[x] (Free) Sell Edge 3 artifact
-[x] (Detectives) Follow Up: Dodge City
-[x] (Constables) Follow Up: Tall Tale
-[X] (Commissioner) Introduce Lore: Forge
-[x] (Director) Lantern
-[x] (Mareinette) Honored Guest: Spoiled Rich & Filthy Rich
-[x] (Biedde) Channel an Edge Influence
-[x] (Baldomare) Channel a Lantern Influence
-[x] (Selene) Soothe the night
-[x] (Rarity) Focus on her work
-[x] Perform the Reflection of the Tapestry x 2
--[x] Target: Easiest Level 7 book to acquire
--[X] Target: Easiest Forge 6 reagent to acquire
--[X] At Jade's old house
-[X] Acquire a prisoner, preferably not an innocent civilian
-[X] Build a prison
-[X] Obtain a dead body
-[X] Perform the Attention of the Laws (Edge) (x2)
-[X] Cover your bases (-2 Follower AP, +1 Velvet AP)

Over the course of the month, you have dedicated your nights to exploring that frozen ocean of ash that now surrounds the walls of the Mansus.

You expected the task to be harrowing and dangerous, but the fact you were only half right only increased your horror.

Because harrowing as it was, you were not in danger. Those ashen wastelands, with their unmoving waves of soot and misery, are now home to many horrors. You could see them, on occasion, skirting at the edge of your vision. Flitting from cover to cover, hunting each other, and using the charred remains of the Woods as their camouflage. You could see them, but they never dared approach you.

They never dared approach you, because you were never alone.

It enjoys stalking you, you realized. But with a glee that reminds you too much of a foal playing hide-and-seek, even if the pawprint it leaves are those of a predator. Still, it enjoys stalking you nonetheless, and the dead things that call this place home know better than to cross its path.

And for that, you were safe.

Although the unseen licks you felt, every now and then, would not let you forget why that was the case.

Still, you explored more of that place, and eventually you made a terrifying discovery.

You discovered that the Woods are still burning. That the Woods will never stop burning. And for all that every trunk of every tree has already been consumed, the roots of the Woods were very deep indeed.

The roots of the Woods are still ablaze, under this ocean of Ash and ash. They still blaze, and the secrets that they held for so long are now boiling to the surface of this ashen ocean like bubbles of air escaping from the lungs of a drowning pony.

And so it happened that one night, one night, you found a place. A miserable basin, with pools filled with boiling liquid not unlike a swamp out of a nightmare. But in those bubbling and foul-smelling puddles you found the charred secrets that the roots of the Woods had kept for so long. And from the shallowest of pools, the ones that only burned you when your hoof approached them, you could scoop out something.

Tomorrow, perhaps, more of those secrets will have bubbled up. Torn from the tortured hoofs of the Woods by fangs made out of fire. Tomorrow, perhaps, more of these puddles will be drained, with their treasure up for grabs.

But that night, you at least found something to take back with you.

And when you woke, the filthy item clutched to your forelegs almost looked thankful, after you washed its filth away.



You have discovered the Boiling Swamp.

You have retrieved an item. An unstudied level 1 Heart artifact has been added to your inventory.






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Turn 22 has now ended.

Your Name-gifted Influence "A Splendour" has disappeared.

One of your summoned Torn Risen has been destroyed.

Your deal with Mareinette will expire imminently, but she is delighted to offer you terms.






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You have reached the "In between turns" period between Turn 22 and Turn 23.

You must now decide how to move forward.


-You can assume you will have 504 bits at the beginning of turn 23: 298 bits (in your current inventory), 160 bits (from your salary), 46 bits (from Rarity's dividends).

-Given the Bureau's current Lore level, you cannot guarantee the Bureau will reap all possible rewards from an expedition if you send them on an expedition. However, if Velvet or a Name Consultant participate in said expedition, you will at least locate items you have scryed for ahead of time.

-You will have a Bureau option to "Analyse your options regarding the Changeling Colony" (can be picked by either Investigator action or Commissioner action)

-You will have a Bureau option to "Study the Husk carcass" (can be picked by Commissioner action, and you can guarantee you will have the husk corpse until the end of turn 23, after that there is a risk Eclipse and Celestia catch wind of it)

-The following Fleeting Opportunities will be available.
--HELP CADANCE (can use Velvet actions, Velvet social action, or Mareinette)
--Contact "Somepony" from Steppes' parting gift (this FO will not disappear, but it will become weaker the more turns you take to pick it)
--An FO on how you want to deal with Filthy Rich (it will be a write-in, and will be a free action, where you specify how to Confidante Filthy Rich)
--Options to deal with your current wound.

You have decided to…


[] (ALL IN) You WILL attempt the "All In" expedition immediately. (No other options may be picked)

[] (ALL IN) You will NOT attempt the "All In" expedition.



Mareinette came to you, in a place that wasn't quite your dreams, but wasn't quite your home either. She spoke to you about yearning, and about expectations, and about the particular smell that food has when it is ready to be eaten.

You couldn't tell for sure if she was talking about her plans for the future, or if she was talking about you in particular.

You weren't sure if there was a difference.



[] (MAREINETTE) Time
-"Are you not valuable partners? Is it not fair that you spend more time together?"
-Current cost: TWO Velvet action.

[] (MAREINETTE) Resources
-"What will she buy with it? Oh, this and that… Books, maps, lodging… company. Not because she needs the bits, mind you, but because making it transactional is a flavor of its own. "
-Current cost: 150 bits

[] (MAREINETTE) Freedom
-"When it comes to sightseeing, or when it comes to the size of a menu, quantity can be a quality of its own."
-Does not cost any character's action points. You will just give Mareinette some "time off" for herself.
-Current interest: A village, perhaps the size of Ponyville. Not a city, not yet, but no longer a hamlet.

[] (MAREINETTE) Offering
-"Not the cursed one, of course. What kind of host would use a guest as a wastebin? "
-Current cost: A STUDIED artifact of level 4 or higher
-WRITE IN which artifact you will give her

[-] (MAREINETTE) Access
-
"Maybe but a few days every week? Every month?"
-VETOED by Selene.

[] (MAREINETTE) Accept her "Invitation to Dinner"
-"Is it time yet?"
-This option will always be available, and will never increase in price.
-This is Mareinette's Grail Sacrament.
-WRITE IN who will be consumed (must be a minion or a prisoner)

[] (MAREINETTE) Nothing
-"Don't forget to write."
-You will voluntarily end your contract with Mareinette.
-She will leave, and will no longer be bound to you.



But of course, words of hope are ever coated by the aftertaste of impatience.
(A "Mood of Mareinette" options does NOT need to be picked if you decide to take Mareinette's Sacrament as her rebinding option.)


[] (MOOD) Mareinette was oh so interested in the Bureau, after your introductions.
-You will not take any particular action this turn.
-From what you hear, Mareinette will be more absent from your home than usual. Something about going over the archives of the Lunar Bureau.
-This is a free action, and will not interfere in Mareinette's ability to serve you.

[] (MOOD) She will acquiesce to your request, yes. But she will expect something in return.
-You will signal to Mareinette that you are still interested in your ongoing relationship. She will hold you for that.
-Mareinette will seek you during this turn, to ask for a "favor."
-This is a free action, and will not interfere in Mareinette's ability to serve you.



And then, of course, there was that little bit of extra time you had when you…


[] (BOOK) What did you read again? (WRITE IN one book, you will retroactively use your last Turn 22 reading action on it)



Finally, you are also thinking ahead, even now.


[] (SCRY) What are you looking at? (WRITE IN an expedition you already know, to scry it ahead of time. WRITE IN what character will perform this action.)

[] (SCRY) You do not wish to scry for any expeditions at this point.





Twelve hours moratorium. Vote in plans. Vote is planned to close around the end of this coming sunday.

EDIT: Vote has been changed to "APPROVAL." Vote for any, and as many, individual choices that you want. The choices with the most votes in each individual category will win said category. The "Mood" category will only be considered if Mareinette's Sacrament does not win the "Mareinette" category.

No moratorium, because approval voting and sufficient informational headsup.

You must either vote to go to "All In" (not in a plan), or you must vote for a plan that has options from every category (unless you pick Mareinette's Sacrament, in which case you may skip the "Moods of Mareinette" option).

I have a lot of things to do, and very little time to write, so apologies for any mistakes you find. Please let me know if you see something wrong so I may correct it.

And I hope you are all doing well!
 
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You have discovered the Boiling Swamp.

You have retrieved an item. An unstudied level 1 Heart artifact has been added to your inventory.
The Heirloom survived?!! It got diminished but it survived????!!!!!

Can we please have Jade study it? Maybe after the Moth 3 artifact?

And before I forget.

DelightedOne's Influence "I Have Been Here Before", has expired.

You have been very useful indeed.
 
-[] (ALL IN) You will NOT attempt the "All In" expedition.

[] Plan: Friendship is Magic

-[] (MAREINETTE) Accept her "Invitation to Dinner"
-"Is it time yet?"
-This option will always be available, and will never increase in price.
-This is Mareinette's Grail Sacrament.
-WRITE IN who will be consumed (the prisoner)

The anticipation is so close I can almost taste it.

A shame though because I liked the personal sacrament but the flavor of regret with savor the dish.

-[] (MOOD) Mareinette was oh so interested in the Bureau, after your introductions.

Introduce her to our work

-[] (BOOK) The Way Home

-[] (SCRY) You do not wish to scry for any expeditions at this point.

Ap are too valuable when they could be scrying for more expeditions.

Kinda thinking of maybe adding Selene with Axe for the book.
 
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-[] (MOOD) Mareinette was oh so interested in the Bureau, after your introductions.

Introduce her to our work
If you are voting for her Sacrament you don't need to do that so I doubt anyone who can see she is plotting will vote for that.

Ap are too valuable when they could be scrying for more expeditions.
We could have Baldomare scry All In sooner than later. It would be nice to at least be aware of what might happen in there.
 
-[] (ALL IN) You will NOT attempt the "All In" expedition.
This one seems self evident.

-[] (MAREINETTE) Accept her "Invitation to Dinner"
Well...is it time?
If you are voting for her Sacrament you don't need to do that so I doubt anyone who can see she is plotting will vote for that.
Plotting on reading books? Or leaving something there? Or meeting someone? I wonder...
 
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Plotting on reading books? Or leaving something there? Or meeting someone? I wonder...
She is probably looking for her sisters. That explains why she is so eager to have Velvet take her Sacrament, few in this era would understand her or know how to deal with her.

Might as well teach someone to do it.
 
It enjoys stalking you, you realized. But with a glee that reminds you too much of a foal playing hide-and-seek, even if the pawprint it leaves are those of a predator. Still, it enjoys stalking you nonetheless, and the dead things that call this place home know better than to cross its path.

And for that, you were safe.

Although the unseen licks you felt, every now and then, would not let you forget why that was the case.

Well that changes things.

I always suspected Stalking or being Stalked with our son had the potential to give moth sracps but it being called hide-and-seek.

Yeah, finally a source of Moth scraps readily available for the taking.

Definitely need to at least try it out to find the requirements.

And so it happened that one night, one night, you found a place. A miserable basin, with pools filled with boiling liquid not unlike a swamp out of a nightmare. But in those bubbling and foul-smelling puddles you found the charred secrets that the roots of the Woods had kept for so long.

Can't Velvet just dive in?

It's not like the fire can hurt her.

SH influence would probably help, maybe a heart influence if Velvet's not naturally immune for diving down.

The Heirloom survived?!! It got diminished but it survived????!!!!!

Nah, the Heirlooms in the Woods were destroyed. This is some minor artifact.
 
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