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I pretty sure I remember learning that the Internet was supposed to be decentralized so that taking it down in its entirety was an impossibility.

It's concerning that it has happened twice, big chunks of it anyways, in recent memory. First the Amazon web service and now Cloudflare.

Red Flags seem to be popping up more than ever these days
 
It's back to normal now.

edit: Or not sometimes I get in sometimes I don't.
 
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ChaosSlimeKing said:
I pretty sure I remember learning that the Internet was supposed to be decentralized so that taking it down in its entirety was an impossibility.
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It was.

Back in 2001 on 9/11 in downtown Manhattan I saw the phone networks go down (centralized infrastructure, easily overloaded) while the primitive email & chat & message programs on TCP/IP kept working perfectly -- I was helping students connect with their out-of-town parents to let them know they were okay.

Back when the core infrastructure was public, the networks were robust, as any node could route traffic around damage like the network had been designed to do in the first place. Independent, public infrastructure can be uncorrelated in terms of system maintenance & defect impact. But now that the core infrastructure is private, it can't do that. The private company will never route traffic away to a potential competitor, and its own servers are all highly correlated in terms of defect impact.

Private infrastructure is fragile, like the 2001 telephone networks.
 
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