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Nitpickers and shitposters on the Internet are training humans to be better at dealing with supernatural entities like Faustian demons or the Fae.

We are being trained to get better at spotting overstatements, hedging our own assertions, and using precise definitions of words because we know that if it's possible to misunderstand a statement, some shithead troll will do exactly that.

This is going to be a major human advantage when the Fae decide to invade next year.
 
evildice said:
Nitpickers and shitposters on the Internet are training humans to be better at dealing with supernatural entities like Faustian demons or the Fae.

We are being trained to get better at spotting overstatements, hedging our own assertions, and using precise definitions of words because we know that if it's possible to misunderstand a statement, some shithead troll will do exactly that.

This is going to be a major human advantage when the Fae decide to invade next year.
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www.goodreads.com

The Fae Wars: Onslaught

What would you do if America and the world were invaded…
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Guns Vs Fae

The latter in an odd twist actually had preptime and proceed to conquer the world from the humans

Apparently, going by an in-universe seer, it's gonna be a LONG time before humanity gains it's independence. Lots of guerilla warfare in the meanwhile
 
SuperPulp2789 said:
www.goodreads.com

The Fae Wars: Onslaught

What would you do if America and the world were invaded…
www.goodreads.com www.goodreads.com

Guns Vs Fae

The latter in an odd twist actually had preptime and proceed to conquer the world from the humans

Apparently, going by an in-universe seer, it's gonna be a LONG time before humanity gains it's independence. Lots of guerilla warfare in the meanwhile
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There are steel tipped penetrator rounds available at walmart.
 
vyor said:
... Ok, and? Do you know how many gangs have guns there?
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Not sure, but they managed to really screw over the United States armed forces and many others in such a way that really scared the F out of people. They also broadcasted their war crimes. Characters really could barely believe that the USA would actually be invaded or actually have to deal with those stuff from occupying forces. Ontop of the brutal slavery and having Orc warriors who also ate people.

The MC encouraged a gangster not so much to fight, that would be suicide, but to sell drugs to the Elves….because aside from training for war and maybe farming…their long lives rendered them decadent

The guerilla warfare is mostly countryside as I recall
 
vyor said:
... How?
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Strategic destruction of specific areas alongside a good portion of the troops, after many decades of secret observation, also magic that can purposely fuck with technology

Otherwise, they still put up a fight

I admittedly still find it hard to believe they lost, in part because it's confirmed in the same book that Julius Caesar had a campaign that helped drive them back and that was back when they had comparatively more magic but mostly mundane warriors
 
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SuperPulp2789 said:
Strategic destruction of specific areas alongside a good portion of the troops, after many decades of secret observation, also magic that can purposely fuck with technology

Otherwise, they still put up a fight

I admittedly still find it hard to believe they lost, in part because it's confirmed in the same book that Julius Caesar had a campaign that helped drive them back and that was back when they had comparatively more magic but mostly mundane warriors
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... Boats and submarines just kinda exist.
 
vyor said:
... Boats and submarines just kinda exist.
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Yeah, I think the writer didn't really think it all through

Might turn out to have underwater magical beasts around like they do dragons

Still I really like Fantasy VS Technology stuff, especially when the first still puts up quite the fight
 
SuperPulp2789 said:
Yeah, I think the writer didn't really think it all through

Might turn out to have underwater magical beasts around like they do dragons

Still I really like Fantasy VS Technology stuff, especially when the first still puts up quite the fight
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Magic absolutely shitstomps tech in a lot of settings.

Like World of Darkness, Harry Potter, etc.

But you also need to... explain what it can do properly.
 
vyor said:
Yeah... Weaver Spirits and gifts exist.

GG tech.
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Technocracy is where tech = magic except they're winning (against the protagonist mages).

Gifts & Weaver sounds more like Werewolf though, is the answer Pentex Corporation? Never played straight Werewolf as much as some of the other WoD games.
 
Watching Baki is terrible for me. I haven't had the urge to smoke a cigarette in months, but watching all these characters drinking fine liquor and smoking is bringing all that back for me.

At least I don't have any cigarettes in the house.
 
evildice said:
Technocracy is where tech = magic except they're winning (against the protagonist mages).

Gifts & Weaver sounds more like Werewolf though, is the answer Pentex Corporation? Never played straight Werewolf as much as some of the other WoD games.
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Pentex is pure wyrm, I mean they have some corrupted gaian, wyld, and weaver spirits but mostly just wyrm. And most of what they do is just magic.

But yes, werewolves shit all over everything and everyone tech related. They are the beat stick of the supernatural world and nothing else comes close.

Need a submarine or boat destroyed? Just slip through the umbra and get inside and start killing. Or ask your theurge to just... request the boat/submarine to sink itself or open all of the windows/doors at 60 fathoms. Or fire off the nukes, they can do that too. Actually an apocalypse scenario involves some wolves stealing a nuclear equipped submarine and launching its weapons at major cities.

Mages and Changelings can do some stuff, but compared to the wolves... That said, in terms of raw magical grunt both mages and changelings have most of the entire setting beat. Mages on versatility, changelings on raw power and ease of casting.

Humans are... pretty far down that list, considering that an actual honest to god Abrams Main Battle Tank can barely scratch the wolves and, uh, isn't hitting a changeling or mage.
 
vyor said:
Pentex is pure wyrm, I mean they have some corrupted gaian, wyld, and weaver spirits but mostly just wyrm. And most of what they do is just magic.

But yes, werewolves shit all over everything and everyone tech related. They are the beat stick of the supernatural world and nothing else comes close.

Need a submarine or boat destroyed? Just slip through the umbra and get inside and start killing. Or ask your theurge to just... request the boat/submarine to sink itself or open all of the windows/doors at 60 fathoms. Or fire off the nukes, they can do that too. Actually an apocalypse scenario involves some wolves stealing a nuclear equipped submarine and launching its weapons at major cities.

Mages and Changelings can do some stuff, but compared to the wolves... That said, in terms of raw magical grunt both mages and changelings have most of the entire setting beat. Mages on versatility, changelings on raw power and ease of casting.

Humans are... pretty far down that list, considering that an actual honest to god Abrams Main Battle Tank can barely scratch the wolves and, uh, isn't hitting a changeling or mage.
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Most fantasy and SciFi books I read, aren't into "stats" much when it comes to combat, almost everyone is a generalist

Closest thing to something that made use of game stats that wasn't a LITRPG or a GameLIT, I read, was Forgotten Ruin and that was because the lady who made the setting a hellhole was inspired by D&D….they die to bullets but even that's not totally relianle
 
SuperPulp2789 said:
Most fantasy and SciFi books I read, aren't into "stats" much when it comes to combat, almost everyone is a generalist

Closest thing to something that made use of game stats that wasn't a LITRPG or a GameLIT, I read, was Forgotten Ruin and that was because the lady who made the setting a hellhole was inspired by D&D….they die to bullets but even that's not totally relianle
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Oh no, those aren't stats. Those are just things they can do. By lore. The stats actually underplay them so you can have some level of challenge in the fights against things like hunters and pentex goons using regular mortal weapons.
 
Treble said:
Is there a different San Marino I wasn't told about?
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This one? Small land locked country near Italy? I'll admittedly give it points for being the oldest Constitutional Republic, but it hasn't actually done anything impressive.
 
Darknessthere said:
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This one? Small land locked country near Italy? I'll admittedly give it points for being the oldest Constitutional Republic, but it hasn't actually done anything impressive.
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It has done something greater empires couldn't. It survived to watch history unfold.

Tell me if that isn't Main Protagonist stuff. When all others go to sleep and never rise again, San Marino just resets the clock.
 
Treble said:
It has done something greater empires couldn't. It survived to watch history unfold.

Tell me if that isn't Main Protagonist stuff. When all others go to sleep and never rise again, San Marino just resets the clock.
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Watching shit happen from the sidelines is literally, factually, the opposite of Main Protagonist stuff.
 
Treble said:
Only for Heroic Narratives. But our world isn't a heroic narrative.
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I dunno.

Travel for the sake of travel, accidentally trip over a great treasure. Use that treasure to kick the asses of a bunch of people who deserve it (and a few that admittedly don't), and tell the world to get off your porch.

Keep tripping over more great treasures seemingly every time you take a walk in your back yard.

World goes to shit.

Get off your porch, beat the idiots until they listen to sense. Go back to retirement.

World goes to shit again.

Beat the shit out of the idiots until they listen again. Think about going into retirement, but no, you've finally got a rival.

Activate Power Of Friendship on most of the people whose asses you saved as well as the ones whose asses you kicked.

Posture for a while, do some flexing, hit the gym. Rival gets progressively more pathetic until he doesn't matter anymore. Get a new rival.

Repeat process.

And at some point, your birthday becomes one of those worldwide facts that everyone knows whether or not they actually like you.


In what world is the USA not a heroic narrative? With a lot of sequels.
 
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Travel for the sake of travel, accidentally trip over a great treasure. Use that treasure to kick the asses of a bunch of people who deserve it (and a few that admittedly don't), and tell the world to get off your porch.
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Nope, travel for the sake of stealing other people's land and settle to escape religious persecution (or the victims of YOUR religious persecution). America was made by the villains of an alien invasion film...or rather, the other way around.

TanaNari said:
eep tripping over more great treasures seemingly every time you take a walk in your back yard.
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Yeah, sure. "Your" backyard.

TanaNari said:
World goes to shit.

Get off your porch, beat the idiots until they listen to sense. Go back to retirement.
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Nah, more like enter a conflict you really shouldn't have and directly lead to the world going properly insane.

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Beat the shit out of the idiots until they listen again. Think about going into retirement, but no, you've finally got a rival.
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No, I'll give you that one. WW2 was your aristeia.

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Activate Power Of Friendship on most of the people whose asses you saved as well as the ones whose asses you kicked.
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Heh. Friendship.....sure.

TanaNari said:
Posture for a while, do some flexing, hit the gym. Rival gets progressively more pathetic until he doesn't matter anymore. Get a new rival.
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Not how heroic narratives work. The USSR doesn't lose after some grand battle, it just collapses because it was always just a paper tiger.

Everything after that is R8 adjacent, so let's not talk about that.
 
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