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This gets the SI stamp approval. Good work, carry one Cainite.
Sure, it only works because it's a SI MC.
If we look from the side and knowing how demons in WoD work, one should be more vary of a helpful Baali, then obvious infernalist.

In general I keep reading the fic and it's okaaay... I guess? though mood is not really WoD. A bit too much modern plucky protag energy.

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Another moment, but more about general WoD. The Mokole were made too... human-ish? They should be much more alien in mindset. Especially with racial memory being a thing. There were some inklings of that in the W20 changing breeds book, but not enough to really weave an interesting story. Like relatively recently awakening from let's say sleeping genetic code in reptiles of the world. Seeing whole human civilization and species as basically a passing fad, a blink of an eye. Basically seeing upcoming Apocalypse more of a cleansing of the place from the annoying mammals then a real issue. Which does hold some sense when we remember that Crocodiles are very resistant to pollution, toxins, radiation, can go a year without food and are nearly bulletproof. When the shit hits the fan in WoD, humanity and garou would be gone long before Mokole.
Would also give some nuance to the general enmity with werewolves, instead of doges getting amgry and other side still salty after many millennia.
One other thing Mokole could easily have had is just paying attention to the fact that they have quite low level combination of gifts where they can give themselves something like INT10-15 and even more for a night. Really plays into "incomprehensible ancient intelligences" angle. XD
So I'm not sure they actually know that a vampire can do stuff like "coerce someone to do something".
It is too complicated a concept XD
To be fair I didn't expect anything different. No big game company in 2025 is gonna have balls to make a proper WoD game. I honestly thought it would come out even worse.
 
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I forgot that Twilight is set near seattle

How did they not have a joke about sparkling thinbloods in Paradox's game?

Elder: Fledgeling, why are the thin bloods talking about glitter and yellow objects to put in their eyes

Fledgeling: Please, please, please, end them
 
Hey so question for the thread: My understanding of vampires was that they don't do sex or even feel lust really anymore and needs to make an effort to even pretend.
They can feel romantic feelings divorced from that but there's no want to put tab A into slot B.
Aside from the memory of it and nostalgia.

High Humanity on the path might reactivate shit like that and there are rituals that manage to make it possible for scenes/a day.
I usually thought it neatly explained why vamps spend so much time conspiring: When a person no longer wants or needs sex it frees up a lot of time and takes away an outlet (same with food but not as much).

It is how I explained it to others and played it but now a lot of fics seems to disregard it?
So I'm either stupid and have missed something or it is different between versions?
 
Hey so question for the thread: My understanding of vampires was that they don't do sex or even feel lust really anymore and needs to make an effort to even pretend.
They can feel romantic feelings divorced from that but there's no want to put tab A into slot B.
Aside from the memory of it and nostalgia.

High Humanity on the path might reactivate shit like that and there are rituals that manage to make it possible for scenes/a day.
I usually thought it neatly explained why vamps spend so much time conspiring: When a person no longer wants or needs sex it frees up a lot of time and takes away an outlet (same with food but not as much).

It is how I explained it to others and played it but now a lot of fics seems to disregard it?
So I'm either stupid and have missed something or it is different between versions?
Somewhat, sexuality is a big part of VTM.
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It just, outright feeding is a way better feeling for vampires. Or as it says "Sex is great, but nothing truly replaces the ecstasy of feeding for a vampire"
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Hey so question for the thread: My understanding of vampires was that they don't do sex or even feel lust really anymore and needs to make an effort to even pretend.

I think it's important to note how sex has changed for vampires.

The sexual organs of a kindred are not the now vestigial genitalia they had as a human. But their fangs. At least, that's how I see it. That's why it feels sexually good to feed for all parties (except giovanni victims).

It's how they feed, it's how they reproduce. Fangs are the new sexual organ of kindred.

The Kindred are basically sexual predators. Seduction is a great way to get people alone for a feeding, and why not take two bp, spend one on the blush of life and boink? Feed again later.

That said, Kindred certainly don't feel sexual feelings the same way as before. But it still feels plenty good.
 
Hey so question for the thread: My understanding of vampires was that they don't do sex or even feel lust really anymore and needs to make an effort to even pretend.
They can feel romantic feelings divorced from that but there's no want to put tab A into slot B.
Aside from the memory of it and nostalgia.

High Humanity on the path might reactivate shit like that and there are rituals that manage to make it possible for scenes/a day.
I usually thought it neatly explained why vamps spend so much time conspiring: When a person no longer wants or needs sex it frees up a lot of time and takes away an outlet (same with food but not as much).

It is how I explained it to others and played it but now a lot of fics seems to disregard it?
So I'm either stupid and have missed something or it is different between versions?
There are vampires that do have sex in addition to feeding. The thing is that feeding/The Kiss is an addictive and highly pleasurable sensation in addition to the fact that most vampires need to spend blood to well Activate their sexual organs to use them and generally prefer the act of feeding to insert/press part A/B into or against slot A/B/C

Then comes aspects like trusting the partner, and if the partner is a vampire or not because Kindred have a whole thing about disliking those who actually have real sex with humans.

Which then gets into the classic infertility aspect and "Hey, do you want to make a deal with a demon to be able to have kids again" along with the discipline powerrs/rituals that activate human biological processes.
 
Right thanks for the answers although I did know the feeding=bliss/orgasm thing.
Just figured that precluded vampire/vampire feelings about it or at least made it taboo (diabliere, bloodbond and yes I know the traditions around bloodbonds).
But thanks for clarifying.
 
For my vampire game where the players are fighting demon judge Holden I am debating if I want to have Blood Meridian being similar to Dracula where it is someone having told an author historical events or if a demon/bane just really liked that book

Mainly because of the book happened I have an excuse for there to be a family of were bears with a Vendetta against Judge Holden for killing their great grandfather
 
Just found an interesting documentary on the IRL cultural origins of vampires

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7CsRZK_yL4

Great video, though one thing that the video did miss is the novel Carmilla by Irish author Joseph Sheridan Le Fanu, which came out 25 years before Bram Stoker's Dracula.
It's the story responsible for the sexual and attractive female vampire, as well as the lesbian vampire archetype.

To be clear, Carmilla from the novel is very clearly a monster, not some misunderstood tragic sad person, as she chooses to drain her victoms to death and kill them, even when she could have easily not have.
That said, she isn't a total monster like Dracula, because Carmilla appears to feel guilt occasionally over what she does, and genuinely cares for Laura (the protagonist).
 
Right thanks for the answers although I did know the feeding=bliss/orgasm thing.
Just figured that precluded vampire/vampire feelings about it or at least made it taboo (diabliere, bloodbond and yes I know the traditions around bloodbonds).
But thanks for clarifying.
Granted there are mutually-bonded pairs of Kindred out there, it's just not seen as something you talk about in public for a variety of reasons.
Codependent is putting it lightly, also the fact that the Sabbat do exactly that to lessen in-fighting in packs, etc.
 
Ok. New to this thread, but I have a question for yall

Do y'all like the VTM clans or the VTR clans better? The Apocalypse or Forsaken Tribes?

I think everyone agreed the Lost was better than the Dreaming when it came to changelings
I just like the hunter's and inferno myself from new world of darkness.
 
Great video, though one thing that the video did miss is the novel Carmilla by Irish author Joseph Sheridan Le Fanu, which came out 25 years before Bram Stoker's Dracula.
It's the story responsible for the sexual and attractive female vampire, as well as the lesbian vampire archetype.

To be clear, Carmilla from the novel is very clearly a monster, not some misunderstood tragic sad person, as she chooses to drain her victoms to death and kill them, even when she could have easily not have.
That said, she isn't a total monster like Dracula, because Carmilla appears to feel guilt occasionally over what she does, and genuinely cares for Laura (the protagonist).
There is also Varney, from 1847, which had a tragic vampire (though still a monster) and might have inspired Mount Doom in Lord of the Rings IMO
 
For my vampire game where the players are fighting demon judge Holden I am debating if I want to have Blood Meridian being similar to Dracula where it is someone having told an author historical events or if a demon/bane just really liked that book

Mainly because of the book happened I have an excuse for there to be a family of were bears with a Vendetta against Judge Holden for killing their great grandfather

Both answers could be true. Blood Meridian might have been based off real events Dracula style, but there might be also copycat demons around that decided to mimic/follow the original.

Getting surrounded by a gang of Holden look alikes led by the original sounds like a nightmare scenario
 

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