Only Human (Goddess of Victory NIKKE SI)

[SuperPulp2789]

It was mentioned earlier that Rapi was her actual name as a Human, and always was.

So I have to assume that after her Mind Switch, she was put into a similar situation as the Canon Rapi, and despite her not being able to meet Red Hood (due to being her), still went through the same approximate situations to end up in the present.

And thus, I think it's very likely that no Mass Produced unit named Rapi exists anywhere in this Rapi's backstory.

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Just something I thought, is it me or there's a lack of last names?

As in, most characters only have one name they are referred to in NIKKE

 

[Jsebas19]

It was mentioned earlier that Rapi was her actual name as a Human, and always was.

So I have to assume that after her Mind Switch, she was put into a similar situation as the Canon Rapi, and despite her not being able to meet Red Hood (due to being her), still went through the same approximate situations to end up in the present.

And thus, I think it's very likely that no Mass Produced unit named Rapi exists anywhere in this Rapi's backstory.

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Wait, here at OH Rapi was his real name?
I guess I skipped some lines of dialogue... because until now I realize

Now that I think about it, don't you think that Red Hood's death in the game is almost identical to that of OH?
but in the opposite direction.? I don't want to say too much to avoid spoilers.
But something tells me that shift up could be copying Nikke's fanfics.

But the fact that Rapi is a red hood could make her problems worse because here, unlike in the game, no one helps her. Snow White is angry with Rapi for forcing Jjoe to shoot Marian, causing her trauma, Anis and Neon are missing god knows where and Joe is also dealing with his own problems.

But in what position would Red Hood be after suffering his mind switch? because I doubt they would put her in a squad of mass-produced Nikkes with such legendary power. Not to mention that red hood knows how to survive on the streets when she was human.

But I wonder what Rapi's story will be like here, I mean Rapi and Red Hood are the same person and not separate entities.

but one thing I don't understand:
Rapi is Red Hood or Red Hood is Rapi?
I'm confused and my head hurts from thinking about it too much.

So I don't know what his past and history will be like in foostep, walk, run if Red Hood's death is different here. Although I have a theory:

Red Hood woke up and wandered on the surface still grieving and mourning the "death" of Joe but he would meet Rapi when she was a mass-produced Nikke but in contrast to the original game Rapi would become corrupted and Red Hood would be forced to kill her causing that Red Hood falls into despair and agony for not protecting Rapi as he could not protect Joe, causing his mind switch.
But the only thing he would remember would be Rapi's name and personality, making Red Hood become the Rapi of OH.

 

[SuperPulp2789]

But I wonder what Rapi's story will be like here, I mean Rapi and Red Hood are the same person and not separate entities.

but one thing I don't understand:
Rapi is Red Hood or Red Hood is Rapi?
I'm confused and my head hurts from thinking about it too much.

So I don't know what his past and history will be like in foostep, walk, run if Red Hood's death is different here. Although I have a theory:

Red Hood woke up and wandered on the surface still grieving and mourning the "death" of Joe but he would meet Rapi when she was a mass-produced Nikke but in contrast to the original game Rapi would become corrupted and Red Hood would be forced to kill her causing that Red Hood falls into despair and agony for not protecting Rapi as he could not protect Joe, causing his mind switch.
But the only thing he would remember would be Rapi's name and personality, making Red Hood become the Rapi of OH.

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Dude, combine your posts, don't double post or you'll end up like in SB

 

[Jsebas19]

Dude, combine your posts, don't double post or you'll end up like in SB

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I deleted that post by accident believing it was another repeat.

 

[SuperPulp2789]

I deleted that post by accident believing it was another repeat.

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Combine your posts now, it's too few minutes within each other's posts

Also, can't find it on YouTube, but I'd like to know what occurs in PT2 specifically

 

[Jsebas19]

Combine your posts now, it's too few minutes within each other's posts

Also, can't find it on YouTube, but I'd like to know what occurs in PT2 specifically

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Well, from what I saw, Red Hood succumbs to corruption in the game and Rapi has no choice but to kill her.
While Red Hood dies in his arms, Rapi cries real tears for the first time for losing his hero

 

[Xaldreca]

But in what position would Red Hood be after suffering his mind switch? because I doubt they would put her in a squad of mass-produced Nikkes with such legendary power. Not to mention that red hood knows how to survive on the streets when she was human.

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1. Her Mind Switch wiped the grand majority of her memories, so no she doesn't know how to survive on the street.

2. She was badly damaged and had to be repaired with subpar equipment. So, she wouldn't have had said legendary power.

Just something I thought, is it me or there's a lack of last names?

As in, most characters only have one name they are referred to in NIKKE

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I mean, most Nikke get their names assigned to them, so they literally don't get last names.

 

[SuperPulp2789]

Well, from what I saw, Red Hood succumbs to corruption in the game and Rapi has no choice but to kill her.
While Red Hood dies in his arms, Rapi cries real tears for the first time for losing his hero

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I was thinking the specifics as to how they merged

I was guessing that PT2 would be when Rapi first meets Ingrid and Absolute, it would have shown just how old Ingrid is, if she's got whatever Andersen and Mustang have in terms of life extension

Or if it was under different management, to foreshadow how Elysion and "Elysion Harper" are related

 

[Jsebas19]

1. Her Mind Switch wiped the grand majority of her memories, so no she doesn't know how to survive on the street.

2. She was badly damaged and had to be repaired with subpar equipment. So, she wouldn't have had said legendary power.

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1-But even if he didn't remember how to survive the streets, how would he get to Elysion? Because at that moment she is a nikke and not to mention that there wouldn't be much police presence after she killed the entire GC gestapo.

2-I didn't explain myself well, with legendary power I was referring to the one he had in goddess and possibly he could have used it sometimes even with the poor state of his body.

And I don't know how you would compare rapi OH to rapi in the game in terms of development or writing.

I was thinking the specifics as to how they merged

I was guessing that PT2 would be when Rapi first meets Ingrid and Absolute, it would have shown just how old Ingrid is, if she's got whatever Andersen and Mustang have in terms of life extension

Or if it was under different management, to foreshadow how Elysion and "Elysion Harper" are related

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PT2 videos have just been released, it is revealed that Red Hood met a kind of ARK guardian called DEEP and when Red Hood asked DEEP to repair Rapi, she did something to Rapi and Red Hood so that the two would unite or get together. merge but erasing the memories of the two so that they do not remember DEEP because she said that they are guardians of the ARK.

and the origin of the Ark's infinite energy is revealed:
It is powered by two Mega rapture cores that if one is destroyed it explodes not only destroying all the raptures but will also destroy all of humanity.

Yes, the ark's energy uses rapture technology. Everyone suspected it and something that the fans knew was confirmed.

Later, when Rapi was a mass-produced Nikke, it was shown that Ingrid was in charge of Elysion.

 

[SuperPulp2789]

PT2 videos have just been released, it is revealed that Red Hood met a kind of ARK guardian called DEEP and when Red Hood asked DEEP to repair Rapi, she did something to Rapi and Red Hood so that the two would unite or get together. merge but erasing the memories of the two so that they do not remember DEEP because she said that they are guardians of the ARK.

and the origin of the Ark's infinite energy is revealed:
It is powered by two Mega rapture cores that if one is destroyed it explodes not only destroying all the raptures but will also destroy all of humanity.

Yes, the ark's energy uses rapture technology. Everyone suspected it and something that the fans knew was confirmed.

Later, when Rapi was a mass-produced Nikke, it was shown that Ingrid was in charge of Elysion.

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Are they feeding corpses to it? Because I assume the reason why Red Hood said "Destroy The Ark" is that it's HUNGRY for people and will one day wake up and eat everybody in The Ark

Did Ingrid look younger? If so, I am now wondering if she's Elysion Harper's mother or if Elysion Harper's older than she looks….Syuen really is the brat/(youngest POS) amongst the four(so far, it looks like Andersen's good friends with Ingrid and Mustang, probably have been for a long time) who can sorta be said to be on the protagonist's side

 

[DarkthShadow]

Welp, I dont know whether to thank you or curse you for getting me into a new mobile game XD but Im loving the story, and its convinced me to give the game a shot

 

[BakaSmurf]

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Chapter 71 - Simple Boobery & A Firm Reminder
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Privaty clung to Joe's arm, curled up and letting out a low, warbling whine.

The man was almost exasperated by how remarkably stereotypical the situation was.

The Commander had been dragged to a movie theatre, wherein the little blunette had insisted upon a horror movie. Or, rather, a 'horror' movie. It was some basic bitch stuff Joe was forgetting as he watched it.

It was doing the trick, though. Giving Privaty an excuse to do the 'scared girl clings to big strong man for safety' bit.

Not that Joe was complaining about that, he was typical enough that having a beautiful woman press her body into his was very buéno. It was just…

Rote, he supposed? It felt very… Off. Like this was a situation that didn't belong in this world. Mankind was on the losing side of a war of extinction… Joe had been witness to the horrors of that.

Yet, here he was, being made to watch a shitty b-grade horror movie at a public theatre so a pretty girl could do a stereotypical dating bit with him.

The disconnect was throwing him for a loop. Leaving him almost feeling like a passenger in his own body, as a dream he couldn't possibly have been actually experiencing happened around him.

What a curious sensation.

After that was done, Privaty pulled the wayward Canuck along to find somewhere to eat next. Preferably somewhere with 'stellar service,' as she put it.

Luckily, she'd heard good things about a particular location, and thus, quickly enough, Joe found himself looking up at the sign of a decently-sized, relatively high-traffic establishment. "'Maid for You?'" His brow furrowed at the implications.

Privaty wasn't about to drag him into a maid café, was she?

At any rate, the tiniest counter-terrorism specialist was quick to drag the man inside by the elbow. She hummed pleasantly as she glanced around the large, wide-open space that made up the building—quickly making note of the fact that it was one big open room.

The kitchen was clearly exposed to the main dining area, separated only by an island counter.

There was additionally a set of stairs leading up to a second floor, to which Joe could only just see what looked like curtains. A sort of performance area? The general atmosphere was quite welcoming and light, if nothing else.

Otherwise, there were a few other customers in the… Restaurant(?), happily digging into their dishes and-

"C-Commander!?" Anis, bereft of her typical heavy jacket and beret, cried out in open horror.

Joe blinked, shifting his attention to track the source of the voice, and indeed, finding the blonde with her hair worn in a messy bob seated at a small table on her own. She seemed to have just finished eating something, given the used plate and utensils set atop it.

Lips parting, he was about to respond to her, only for a door set in the wall next to the stairs to swing open, out of which stepped the platonic ideal of a traditional maid.

"Anis," the gorgeous woman called out. "Adjustments to your uniform are done. You may begin your shift now." She then took note of Joe and Privaty, curtsying to the pair and noting, "Welcome, Masters. We apologize for the delay and will be with you shortly."

All the colour rapidly faded from Anis' face, and with a rapidly rising blush, she rose from her seat and power-walked to the door the maid had stepped out of. Pointedly, she did not look Joe's way as she did so.

Of all the things the Commander had expected out of coming into this establishment, randomly discovering that Anis apparently moonlit as a maid café waitress was not one of them.

Least of all considering how the little shit hemmed and hawed about so much as cleaning up after herself at the outpost.

"Ah! Anis!" Another woman's voice called out, high-pitched, girly and excitable, the source was out of sight, and so Joe had no basis on which to describe her appearance… "Here! Let's get you dressed up in your new uniform! Let's get you out of those clothes then!"

Beyond the audibly lurid giggle that clearly originated from Anis, at least. Idly, the man recalled how blatantly Anis' eyes had been locked to Ludmilla's ass when they were following her back at the Northern Base.

So, whoever that other presumed employee was, she was probably Anis' type then. Probably a looker, to elicit such an unapologetically rakish response to the notion of being undressed by another woman.

…Was Anis just working here to get close to that chick?

No, doubtful, probably not. She didn't strike him as the sort to do that kind of thing. She was probably just picking up a side hustle for more pocket change.

At any rate, the maid that had called out to Anis approached Joe and Privaty with a small, but intensely genial and welcoming smile. "Hello, Masters," she started with a small, proper bow. "My name is Ade. Will you be dining with us this evening?"

Joe was making an effort to keep his eyes fixed on Ade's face, which admittedly wasn't particularly difficult given how much of a traditional beauty she was.

Long blond hair was tied up in a braid-encircled bun on the back of her head, her crown capped off with a typical frilly headband. Her bangs were parted in an elegant style, framing her fair-skinned, womanly face and olive green eyes in a very pleasing manner.

She wore simple, brass-framed glasses with a tasteful chain streaming off the frame and draping around her neck, yet only further adding to her dignified charm.

Why was Joe having to make an effort to keep focused on Ade's face? Because she was very well endowed, which her traditional, frilly, full-length and poofy-shouldered monochromatic dress did nothing to hide—this despite the outfit being very tastefully conservative in its design.

All-in-all, a very distractingly beautiful woman, to say the least. Made all the worse for Joe given that she looked to only be about 5'2"/158cm in three-inch/eight-centimetre heels.

Joe loved his shortstacks, and by God, were shortstacks distressingly common in the Ark for some blessed reason.

"Yes," Privaty answered for herself and Joe, wearing a broad, if somewhat strained smile as she did so. "That would be swell, thank you."

"Then allow me to show you to your table, Masters," Ade turned, gesturing for the pair to follow her with a surprisingly sophisticated motion.

As the duo did so, Joe grunted upon receiving a tiny elbow in the side. Privaty was giving him the stink-eye, lips pursed to the side in annoyance at some perceived slight. The man didn't know what was up with that, and quickly enough, Ade had them seated at a cutely decorated table.

Handing the two a pair of small menus, she declared: "The menu may be small, but I assure you, it's only so that each dish can be prepared with as much love and care as is deserving of our customers as possible. Please, take your time choosing, someone will be back to take your order shortly."

Flashing Joe and Privaty a brilliant, understated smile, Ade about-faced and went back the way she'd come, once more disappearing into the same door Anis had. Once she was gone, Privaty fixed Joe with a withering glower.

"W-what!?" He cried out, immediately feeling rather put-upon, to say the least.

"So you're into zeppelins, huh?" Privaty asked, projecting all of her apparent annoyance right at Joe's face.

"W-bwah?" Joe cried, recoiling in abject confusion as he reached up to set a hand on his head. "What the Hell is- Huh?"

"Oh, like I wouldn't notice!" Privaty started in an accusatory tone. "Blondes with big, heaving… Those!" She gestured in the general direction of her chest-

"Did you just refer to her breasts as zeppelins?" Joe leaned in, speaking under his breath to avoid making a scene and looking at Privaty like she was crazy.

"So you were looking!" The twintailed little lady suddenly leaned forward in her seat, seeing to bare her little teeth at the Commander as she did so. "I knew it!"

"First off, no I wasn't!" Joe started, "Second-"

"You were weren't looking!" He was cut off by the blunette, her hair bouncing around her figure as she did that sassy annoyed woman full body gesticulation thing. "You weren't not- You noticed!" She dramatically pointed at him.

"No shit I noticed! It's kind of difficult not to!" Joe asserted in his own defence, because good Lord woman, "You saw her too!"

"I-I only looked a bit!" Privaty suddenly leaned back defensively, as if attempting to avoid an oncoming jab in a boxing match. "T-they're huge- I mean I wasn't looking! She's pretty and her whole outfit is clearly designed to call attention to them! Not that I noticed!"

"Holy mackerel the projection is real!" Joe declared, throwing his arms out like a put-upon used car salesman. "Why are you getting mad at me for something you were doing!?"

"What the heck do fish have to do with this you weirdo!?" Privaty shot back, dramatically cocking her head at Joe and furrowing her brows over wide-open eyes. "What, you're comparing those artillery shells of hers to whales now? Do you ever not think about airbags!?"

"Why are you so hyper-fixated on her chest!?" Joe's expression grew increasingly dumbstruck and confused. "And why do you keep using such weird euphemisms to describe them-"

"I'm not 'hyper-fixated' on her gazongers!" Privaty defensively asserted. "What's so good about big balloons anyways!? They're huge and at first you're proud of them but then they get in the way and you have to dress around them and you get picked on and called 'top heavy' and you get asked if they're going to cause you to fail this training operation too-!"

She stopped, mouth hanging open mid-rant before her eyes opened to their maximum and her pupils constricted to tiny little mortified pinpricks.

"N-N-Not that I'd know anything about all of that!"

What was she- Privaty was visibly modestly endowed, where was this even coming from!?

"Privaty what the fuck are you talking about-!?" Joe started with overwhelmed exasperation, only to be cut off again.

"Excuse me, Masters," this time, by a small, tiny, and extremely derpy voice interrupted the pair's increasingly stupid and pointless argument. "Are your orders ready?"

Turning aside to the source of the voice, Joe paused and glanced down. Where Ade was a full-figured woman, this maid was tiny, small, an actual child. Long pink hair was up into thin twintails, adorned with a single, black bow planted dead centre of her forehead, and she was dressed in a cute, overly frilly maid's dress.

Her eyes, despite their impressive size, were heavily lidded in a lazy manner, causing the girl to project a very particular aura despite being just a small child.

Where Privaty had been growing increasingly feral but a moment ago, suddenly, she one-eightied and started to outright squeal in glee. "Ooooh, look at you! You're so cuuute!" She cooed gleefully, turning fully in her seat to cup her own cheeks and lean over to focus entirely on the tiny little maid.

"I know," the little girl replied matter-of-factually, her derpy voice only serving to punctuate her seeming self-assuredness. "I'm Cocoa, the perfect maid," she asserted with a little thumbs-up and a sparkle in her eyes. "Masters, are you ready to order?"

Privaty continued to gush over Cocoa for a few moments, rapidly clicking her heels on the fine panelled wood floor of the establishment in excitement. Eventually, she seemed to gather herself enough to reply. "What do you suggest, Cocoa?" She asked in a sickeningly sweet tone.

"Omurice!" Cocoa was quick to reply, "I draw the best ketchup pictures on omurice!"

"We'll take two omurices then!" Privaty leaned forward, smiling broadly as she presented two fingers and continued to coo over Cocoa with glee.

In reply, Cocoa sharply nodded once, furrowing her brow and presenting the blunette with a goofy little thumbs-up. "You'll have your omurice right away then, masters!"

With that, the tiniest maid about-faced and marched her tiny little legs to the kitchen in the back of the dining area. This suggested that she was going to prepare the food herself… Wasn't omurice actually supposed to be exceptionally difficult to do right-?

"Isn't she the cutest little thing?" Privaty to face Joe again, still gushing about Cocoa. "Ooh, I knew it was a good idea to come here!"

Blinking, Joe shrugged, "Yeah, sure," he noncommittally replied with a shrug. He didn't really have the paternal instincts that seemed to flare up whenever a lot of people set eyes on a kid. He was just indifferent towards them.

At that, Privaty gave the man a perplexed look. She seemed visibly confused for a few moments, but then shook her head as if to dismiss an errant thought. Shifting in her seat to properly face Joe again, she set her elbows on the table, and planted her chin in her hands.

"I can't say say this is what I expected when this place was recommended to me…" She said as she lightly cocked her head at the Commander, simply observing him now.

"Despite 'maid' literally being in the name?" Joe wondered with a popped brow, leaning back in his seat as he crossed his arms.

Privaty's eyes went wide as she, again, leaned back and grimaced. "T-that doesn't mean anything! Who would see that word being in a restaurant's name and assume that means it's staffed by maids!?"

"I did," Joe flatly noted, bemusement lacing his tone.

"T-that- Yeah right! Sure! Totally!" Privaty cried, attempting to project an air of doubt despite her rapidly mounting panic. "I believe you, for sure!"

God, what an idiot. Joe loved her.

Idly, the man patted his pants pocket to habitually adjust his phone—only to find that it was missing. Blinking, Joe immediately realized that he must have forgotten it back in his room. It was rare for him to do that.

While on the one hand, that could prove to be a problem, on the other, they were supposed to be on a break. So, it would probably be fine, right?

Yeah, it was probably nothing to worry about for now.

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[Joe? Are you there? Where are you? I can't find you, Anis isn't responding either and my messages aren't even going through to Neon. Please respond.]

Rapi sent yet another text to the Commander, brows furrowed with intense anxiety and lips drawn into a heavy grimace.

She couldn't find him, despite going around almost the entire Outpost, and she was getting increasingly worried. She needed to stay by his side, that was her purpose. Why wasn't he responding to her? Was he mad? Was he ignoring her? Did he hate her-?

Breath hitching, Rapi clenched her teeth and firmly locked her eyes shut as she took a deep, bracing breath.

It was okay, it was fine. She just needed to make it up to him. She just needed to be there for him, and show that she would always be there for him. It was okay, it was fine. Words were meaningless, but actions meant everything, so he'd know, if she just stayed with him at all times, he'd know and forgive her and-

"Rapi?" The strawberry blonde was startled out of her stupor, a gentle hand setting itself on her shoulder. "Are you okay?"

Sharply turning to face the speaker, Rapunzel's big blue eyes were glimmering with unfettered worry and concern.

"Ah-" Rapi started, her voice hitching and breaking as she tried to collect herself. "I-I-"

After a few moments, Rapunzel's brow furrowed, and with determination etching across her features, she nodded, moving to pull Rapi along. "Come, let's find somewhere quiet to sit down and talk."

"N-no, it's fine-" Rapi started warily, "I-"

"No, it's clearly not fine, Rapi," Rapunzel asserted pointedly, continuing to pull her along. "Something is obviously bothering you, and I want you to at least try to talk to me about it. I know you would avoid acknowledging and discussing such things in the past… But things have to be different now."

Frowning, Rapi was immediately flashing back to the 'discussion' with Snow White. She didn't want to have to be subjected to that again. Being shouted at and reminded of how horrible she was, even as she was trying to make it better the only way she could…

Rapunzel stopped, stared at Rapi for a few long moments, before encircling her arms around the far smaller woman's figure, drawing her into a gentle embrace.

Blinking in surprise, Rapi's eyes darted about, not quite sure how to take this.

"Rapi," Rapunzel lightly squeezed her. "Whatever it is that's bothering you, I just want to help you. You're my sister, and while I understand that things are strange and perhaps a bit uncomfortable for you right now… I help the people I care about. Something is clearly terribly bothering you. Please, let me help."

There was a beat in which Rapi's breath hitched again. Eventually, she replied in a low, beaten-down voice: "You won't want to help once you know, just like Snow White…"

There was a very heavy pause, and, still being held in a tight embrace, Rapi felt a chill run down her spine as Rapunzel replied: "What do you mean by that?" Her typically sugary sweet voice taking on a sharp edge normally not present.

Rapi didn't respond, just going quiet as she suddenly felt a deep, terrifying worry as something deep inside of her was stirred, and felt as though a landmine had just gone 'click.'

"Rapi," Rapunzel repeated herself, squeezing the far shorter woman just a little bit harder. "What do you mean by that? What did Snow White do? What did she say to you?"

Somehow, despite Rapunzel being a big teddy bear, Rapi felt a distant emotion, a shadow of a forgotten memory launching a flare in desperation. Suddenly, Rapi remembered a fear of Rapunzel.

"Rapi," Rapunzel's voice became very, deeply stern. "What. Did. You. Mean. By. That?"

Somehow, Rapi felt terror.

For Snow White.

 

[palacesound]

"Excuse me, Masters," this time, by a small, tiny, and extremely derpy voice interrupted the pair's increasingly stupid and pointless argument. "Are your orders ready?"

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A shame, Privaty's euphemisms were just getting good. Was looking forward to her calling boobs Tactical Milk Launchers.

 

[NJesus]

cute chapter all around Privaty is always a blast
lets hope Rapunzel can set Plapi straight

Privaty should know that all the "plush" on Nikke is important to balance the highspeed movents via jiggles kek

 

[Jsebas19]

At least we know where Anis was.
That she works at the Maid Cafe part-time is a reference to Nikke's manga Sweet Encount because what I saw in the manga Anis appears working at the Maid Cafe part-time.

so we just need to know where Neon is. Possibly it's something related to DEEP.

Damn, I was hoping Soda would show up to see Joe's reaction to Soda's Huge Breasts.

I wonder if some maid events like the golden coin rush will happen. But remembering what the author said to only adapt events that contribute something, I doubt that golden coin rush will be adapted along with the beach and Christmas events.

 

[SuperPulp2789]

I used to dislike Tsundere's

But I think it was mainly because they were flat chested bitches

Privaty's Tsundereness becomes adorable so long as she has big tits and avoids actual Tsundere mega bitchness, like hitting the protagonist that refuses to hit back

 

[FatBabyYoshi]

i love the inclusion of characters it feels no natural to me. Cant wait to see the dark side of the teddy bear rapunzel

 

[Mo_Eazy]

I used to dislike Tsundere's

But I think it was mainly because they were flat chested bitches

Privaty's Tsundereness becomes adorable so long as she has big tits and avoids actual Tsundere mega bitchness, like hitting the protagonist that refuses to hit back

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The problem is that the vast majority of Tsundere's are done poorly. There are some very good Tsundere's and it all depends on the genre and how they're handled. Ninety percent are over the top, smash the protagonist's face in over nothing banshees. The gag is then overused almost immediately and it becomes not a source of slapstick humor but just rote behavior. Japan has a bad habit of beating ideas like a dead horse and the usual kind of Tsundere is exactly that. They just took Akane Tendo from Ranma and recycled her a thousand times.

Good Tsundere's don't need slapstick violence. That said there are some good Tsundere's who do hit their love interests and still manage to be cool. Kaname Chidori of Full Metal Panic is one of my all time favorite anime heroines and his is despite her abuse of the protagonist. Why? Because Sagara Sousuke deserves it.

Most romantic anime comedy protagonist's get smacked for no reason. They tripped and accidentally spilled the laundry and the heroines underwear? Bam, straight to the moon. Take a tumble down the stairs with the heroine and end up with a hand on her chest? Violence. These are accidents and not deserving of a sudden a surface to air launch into the next district.

Sagara Sousuke will literally tackle Kaname to the floor and draw a real, loaded handgun in the middle of class because someone opened the class door too loudly. Or preemptively neutralize a student trying to confess to Chidori with a beanbag round to the face from a pump action shotgun. These are some of the extreme, ridiculous things Sousuke does that earn him a slipper upside the head and he absolutely deserves it for being a menace to society.

The fact that she's not a complete wallflower, actually tries to initiate romance with the protagonist several times and acknowledges her own feelings about him (even though she doesn't know how to get him to understand her) makes her a good Tsundere.

Rin Tohsaka of Fate/Stay Night and her many variations across Type-Moon's gamut of timelines is another great Tsundere. At least the original version from the games, most of the anime's (not all) kind of end up falling back on generic engine tropes for some reason. I'm specifically talking about UBW's stupid "Date" episode.

But yeah, Rin's great. She doesn't smack Shiro but she's also not afraid to point out when his PTSD-driven brain damage and fucked up soul influences him to make poor decisions. Of which he makes a lot of those. Frankly Shirou needs a Tsundere just to survive past his twentieth birthday if we go with the known, canon timelines that occur after the original game's "true/good endings".

Rin's also not afraid to acknowledge that she loves the idiot and goes to ludicrous lengths to keep him alive and happy…for a given word of the last one, anyway. But yeah, she's not afraid to call him out on his shit, doesn't attempt to use violence to teach him (outside the plot relevant things when they were enemies) and is a genuinely entertaining teenage girl trying to be more mature than she actually is. Good Tsundere.

Unfortunately I can't recall any others off the top of my head but I'm sure I could find them if I dug into my memory banks some more but this has already been a hell of a tangent.

Thanks for the chapter OP.

 

[Saturn White]

Curious to see how you're gonna handle Rapi on this one cause youve made Red Hood into Rapi. Pretty major canon divergence given the recent event for Rapi : Red Hood and how Rapi was mentored by Red Hood.

 

[SuperPulp2789]

The problem is that the vast majority of Tsundere's are done poorly. There are some very good Tsundere's and it all depends on the genre and how they're handled. Ninety percent are over the top, smash the protagonist's face in over nothing banshees. The gag is then overused almost immediately and it becomes not a source of slapstick humor but just rote behavior. Japan has a bad habit of beating ideas like a dead horse and the usual kind of Tsundere is exactly that. They just took Akane Tendo from Ranma and recycled her a thousand times.

Good Tsundere's don't need slapstick violence. That said there are some good Tsundere's who do hit their love interests and still manage to be cool. Kaname Chidori of Full Metal Panic is one of my all time favorite anime heroines and his is despite her abuse of the protagonist. Why? Because Sagara Sousuke deserves it.

Most romantic anime comedy protagonist's get smacked for no reason. They tripped and accidentally spilled the laundry and the heroines underwear? Bam, straight to the moon. Take a tumble down the stairs with the heroine and end up with a hand on her chest? Violence. These are accidents and not deserving of a sudden a surface to air launch into the next district.

Sagara Sousuke will literally tackle Kaname to the floor and draw a real, loaded handgun in the middle of class because someone opened the class door too loudly. Or preemptively neutralize a student trying to confess to Chidori with a beanbag round to the face from a pump action shotgun. These are some of the extreme, ridiculous things Sousuke does that earn him a slipper upside the head and he absolutely deserves it for being a menace to society.

The fact that she's not a complete wallflower, actually tries to initiate romance with the protagonist several times and acknowledges her own feelings about him (even though she doesn't know how to get him to understand her) makes her a good Tsundere.

Rin Tohsaka of Fate/Stay Night and her many variations across Type-Moon's gamut of timelines is another great Tsundere. At least the original version from the games, most of the anime's (not all) kind of end up falling back on generic engine tropes for some reason. I'm specifically talking about UBW's stupid "Date" episode.

But yeah, Rin's great. She doesn't smack Shiro but she's also not afraid to point out when his PTSD-driven brain damage and fucked up soul influences him to make poor decisions. Of which he makes a lot of those. Frankly Shirou needs a Tsundere just to survive past his twentieth birthday if we go with the known, canon timelines that occur after the original game's "true/good endings".

Rin's also not afraid to acknowledge that she loves the idiot and goes to ludicrous lengths to keep him alive and happy…for a given word of the last one, anyway. But yeah, she's not afraid to call him out on his shit, doesn't attempt to use violence to teach him (outside the plot relevant things when they were enemies) and is a genuinely entertaining teenage girl trying to be more mature than she actually is. Good Tsundere.

Unfortunately I can't recall any others off the top of my head but I'm sure I could find them if I dug into my memory banks some more but this has already been a hell of a tangent.

Thanks for the chapter OP.

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It has to do with how most harem protagonists, especially light novel ones are supposed to be rather ridiculously placid

They just take the gags, themselves being unfunny straight men, they don't dish them out themselves

Which is why stuff like Kanojo Mo Kanojo, High Risk Mission Therapy and Kimi no Koto ga Dai Dai Dai Dai Daisuki na 100-nin no Kanojo, are rather rare

The protagonists are genuine Nice Guys but they're clearly NOT ultra bland nondescript self inserts

Funny, reminds me of a newly released chapter of another NIKKe fanfic. Three Guardians take the place of the Cummander, they're kinda comedic themselves. The Hunter makes lots of jokes at Syuen's expense when first meeting her, Syuen has what Wardress did in canon to him and the rest of the group. Guy then almost shoots Syuen before being tackled by the Counters who don't want to have a dead body, he then says that he should have used the golden gun to disintegrate her, which they're even more "No!"

 

[Ace of Scarabs]

Curious to see how you're gonna handle Rapi on this one cause youve made Red Hood into Rapi. Pretty major canon divergence given the recent event for Rapi : Red Hood and how Rapi was mentored by Red Hood.

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Baka just did Footstep, Walk, Run, but he flipped the fusion the other way around and used Rapi to stabilize Red Hood instead, unlike DEEP

 

[Jsebas19]

Baka just did Footstep, Walk, Run, but he flipped the fusion the other way around and used Rapi to stabilize Red Hood instead, unlike DEEP

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What do you mean by that?

It has not yet been shown what happened to Rapi after the attack on the GC and the "death" of Joe.

I imagine that another change that Joe's presence made was that when the GC attack was carried out and that both he and Red Hood killed almost all the politicians and all the police due to Red Hood's frenzy. It caused the pro-Nikkes protesters to survive and not be killed because the GC after the attack would lack the manpower and police arm to repel the protests.

I still believe that Rapi and Red Hood here in OH were two different people and separate like the game. But Rapi was corrupted and Red Hood would be forced to kill her and she would only remember Rapi's name after suffering the mind switch, becoming the Rapi we know.

It has to do with how most harem protagonists, especially light novel ones are supposed to be rather ridiculously placid

They just take the gags, themselves being unfunny straight men, they don't dish them out themselves

Which is why stuff like Kanojo Mo Kanojo, High Risk Mission Therapy and Kimi no Koto ga Dai Dai Dai Dai Daisuki na 100-nin no Kanojo, are rather rare

The protagonists are genuine Nice Guys but they're clearly NOT ultra bland nondescript self inserts

Funny, reminds me of a newly released chapter of another NIKKe fanfic. Three Guardians take the place of the Cummander, they're kinda comedic themselves. The Hunter makes lots of jokes at Syuen's expense when first meeting her, Syuen has what Wardress did in canon to him and the rest of the group. Guy then almost shoots Syuen before being tackled by the Counters who don't want to have a dead body, he then says that he should have used the golden gun to disintegrate her, which they're even more "No!"

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Yes, the commander of the game is technically a self-insertion of the developers and players and everything literally 90% is sex and harem and moments of sexual fetches like Elegg and Liveryn getting stuck in the glass with their butts in the air.

technically shift up they don't know how to write a story and they only focus on writing harem, with a self-insertion of their otaku players, with fanservice dark and tragic things that are forced and unnatural or moments that work only because they reduce the intelligence of the characters to the level by Homer Simpson like chapters 22-23 with Crow or nerfing several villains and favoring Rapi over all the characters.

 

[NJesus]

But remembering what the author said to only adapt events that contribute something, I doubt that golden coin rush will be adapted

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Coin Rush is plot important tho , it would be the ultimate bro show between joe and mr entertainment

Possibly it's something related to DEEP.

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Neon betrayal in 3-2-1

 

[Vicentehuerta777dragon]

Rapunzel moment to shine in being the groups therapist, snow white is going to get a very stern "read terrifying" talk about how to not trigger their very traumatized shellshocked amnesic sister dealing with a variety of issues .

 

[Megaolix]

technically shift up they don't know how to write a story and they only focus on writing harem, with a self-insertion of their otaku players, with fanservice dark and tragic things that are forced and unnatural or moments that work only because they reduce the intelligence of the characters to the level by Homer Simpson like chapters 22-23 with Crow or nerfing several villains and favoring Rapi over all the characters.

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Hey, enough. If all you do is complain about the game, take it elsewhere. This is a fic thread, not the Nikke general thread.

 

[NJesus]

random thought but I think Joe is a filthy liar
he talks about short stack supremacy but considering he had a thing with the original red hood it all falls apart red hood is a giant in nikke terms so joe must be a liar

 

[Jsebas19]

random thought but I think Joe is a filthy liar
he talks about short stack supremacy but considering he had a thing with the original red hood it all falls apart red hood is a giant in nikke terms so joe must be a liar

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Maybe Joe is lying, so that Privaty-tsundere doesn't make an unnecessary dramatic scene.

Although it might fall apart when Soda shows up.

 

[BakaSmurf]

random thought but I think Joe is a filthy liar
he talks about short stack supremacy but considering he had a thing with the original red hood it all falls apart red hood is a giant in nikke terms so joe must be a liar

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Red Hood is 5'4" in four-inch heels. 2B is canonically 5'6" in three-inch heels, and all character heights in OH are determined by comparing characters against 2B in the visual novel story sequences.

I don't care that she was inexplicably giant in the ending video of Footstep, Walk, Run, because Rapi, who is 5'3" in three-inch heels, was a whole-ass half-a-head taller than her for the entire event before that, and only an inch shorter in the part 2 splash art. Inconsistency outside of Red Ash is disqualification of those depictions.

Rapunzel is the big girl of Goddess at 5'10" in flats, being the same barefoot height as Andersen and Joe.

This all putting aside the fact that Red Hood and Rapi are the same fucking person in OH, and Rapi is short, period.

 

[NJesus]

Red Hood is 5'4" in four-inch heels. 2B is canonically 5'6" in three-inch heels, and all character heights in OH are determined by comparing characters against 2B in the visual novel story sequences.

I don't care that she was inexplicably giant in the ending video of Footstep, Walk, Run, because Rapi, who is 5'3" in three-inch heels, was a whole-ass half-a-head taller than her for the entire event before that, and only an inch shorter in the part 2 splash art. Inconsistency outside of Red Ash is disqualification of those depictions.

Rapunzel is the big girl of Goddess at 5'10" in flats, being the same barefoot height as Andersen and Joe.

This all putting aside the fact that Red Hood and Rapi are the same fucking person in OH, and Rapi is short, period.

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tis is a joke mate , mostly gone by the /v meme where someone made a graph for heights by comparing it to their weapons and half came up to 6'3 while Red Hood came on something like ridiculous 6'9 iirc , sorry if I triggered you

 

[Jsebas19]

Red Hood is 5'4" in four-inch heels. 2B is canonically 5'6" in three-inch heels, and all character heights in OH are determined by comparing characters against 2B in the visual novel story sequences.

I don't care that she was inexplicably giant in the ending video of Footstep, Walk, Run, because Rapi, who is 5'3" in three-inch heels, was a whole-ass half-a-head taller than her for the entire event before that, and only an inch shorter in the part 2 splash art. Inconsistency outside of Red Ash is disqualification of those depictions.

Rapunzel is the big girl of Goddess at 5'10" in flats, being the same barefoot height as Andersen and Joe.

This all putting aside the fact that Red Hood and Rapi are the same fucking person in OH, and Rapi is short, period.

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That's why I mentioned that it's better not to take or base some data on your story from the game, because the only thing shift up does is contradict itself.

but well, leaving that aside, I noticed some differences with the Rapi of the game and that of OH that I will explain in a very summary way:

-Rapi of the game: I want to be like red hood
-Rapi from OH: I want to be the best nikke that Joe deserves to have.

and in terms of tv tropes etiquette, here for Rapi it would apply "adaptive angst degradation" because here since Rapi IS Red Hood, it means that his past before being Nikke was not tragic at all, having a family and knowing how to read.

Although I wonder if after Joe's "death" he met Rio and Wendi, although I doubt it that he assigned Red Hood to squads of mass-produced Nikkes.